Originally posted by black_isle

 Originally posted by hockey98

Originally posted by Butch808

Originally posted by darkbamy

Still need to pay for the expansion...then NO

My feelings exactly.

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[mod edit] He is talking about the issue in which customers who paid for the expansion are asked to pay for it again in order for it to be unlocked (and only weekly and for each zone seperately). So they are taking something away from you which you have already paid for and putting it behind a paywall and that is unacceptable.

 

I won't be going back unless they change this and find a solution for AA.

Just to clarify this for you : They did not take anything away from you. When game went f2p it was made perfectly clear that RotGS would remain available for subscribers only with an option for free players to access the content via weekly passes regardless of you buying the expansion previously or not.

Would it be better if they implemented something like the new TSW business model ? Probably yes, but it is what it is at the moment. What if Blizzard suddenly decided to extend WoW's f2p trial to include every expansion but MoP which would remain available for subbers only ?

I can guarantee that lots of people would happily drop their subscriptions and would still be complaining that Blizzard took away MoP from them (for those who paid for that expansion) when it would be clear from the beginning that MoP would not be part of the deal.

Sorry, but the truth is many people read or hear F2P and they immediately see themselves having access to everything without having to pay a cent, ever. Have you heard the saying : "Give them an inch, they want a mile".  I think it's perfectly valid in this case.

As for your AA concern, people who bought the RotGS expansion have access to the full AA system in AoC under the f2p model. The only option in the AA system unavailable for free players who own the expansion is the time trained feature. 

Nice but not nice enough to help AoC out.

Players will still need to sub to enjoy AA's and RoTG expansion even if they bought it.

They'd be better off by removing the sub limitations of those, like, buy perks/content from shop and they would be unlocked for ever without the need to sub.

As it is now, F2P is still a free "trial" with end game locked by sub.

But, if Funcom thinks AoC is doing well like this, more power to them.

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by Elsabolts
Humm, I wonder if CCP folks might be getting abit nervous.

 

 

 

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AoC has 50k players or less, and is in an entirely different genre of game from Eve. Why would CCP be nervous?

 

All of the game company's deciding to go F2P.

It's been going on for a while...

CCP has no real need to feel nervous. They're perhaps the only MMO on the market that isn't susceptable to the F2P gains. There aren't any other games like Eve, and so Eve players don't get to choose between a sub game or another no-sub game. Add that to the fact that CCP reward you for succeeding by allowing you to play F2P through PLEX (and how it offers a legitimate form of RMT), and there should be no nerves at CCP.

And stop with the cat picture ;(

I quit somewhere around level 40 partly because I'd have to pay to see the asian zone(s).  The main reason was how tedious leveling was after Tortage.

Can you go to every zone and level to the cap?  Or are latest expansions locked?

Originally posted by 4bsolute

Originally posted by Ozmodan

The problem with this game, you are channeled everywhere.  I did not mind the character restrictions nor the gold, although it would have been a pain at higher levels.

I wish them luck, but I found the game less interesting to play than most of the other themepark fantasy games.

"channeled everywhere" ? what could that mean

AoC uses MEGA-channelling. Everywhere you are there's at least a 2nd copy of the world active with players in it. Tortage has about 10-15 channels available (depending on time of day). This makes it a pain to find parties or even players...

I'm thinking about starting up a Clan again anyone down i just reinstalled got my toons up and running again

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by Elsabolts
Humm, I wonder if CCP folks might be getting abit nervous.

 

 

 

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AoC has 50k players or less, and is in an entirely different genre of game from Eve. Why would CCP be nervous?

 

All of the game company's deciding to go F2P.

CCP tried to take one step down the f2p road. The players then made a quick vote with thier wallets. CCP learned the lesson.

Unless they tire of thier jobs you wont see EVE go f2p.

Of course they could still loose all thier players to f2p games, but i really doubt it will happen any time soon.

When the world went carebear, CCP catered for the few that wanted hardcore.

When the world goes f2p, CCP will cater for the few that wants p2p.

As long as you dont want to be king of the hill knowing your minorities will get you a long way.

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Humm, I wonder if CCP folks might be getting abit nervous.

hmmm. perplex...pre...PLEX.

You can play eve for free if you want with no restrictions.

one may even argue that paying your pilot license with real money is P2W...and PLEX is the intended rp-way to go.

Originally posted by Dreskest

Originally posted by black_isle

 Originally posted by hockey98

Originally posted by Butch808

Originally posted by darkbamy

Still need to pay for the expansion...then NO

My feelings exactly.

[mod edit]

[mod edit] He is talking about the issue in which customers who paid for the expansion are asked to pay for it again in order for it to be unlocked (and only weekly and for each zone seperately). So they are taking something away from you which you have already paid for and putting it behind a paywall and that is unacceptable.

 

I won't be going back unless they change this and find a solution for AA.

Just to clarify this for you : They did not take anything away from you. When game went f2p it was made perfectly clear that RotGS would remain available for subscribers only with an option for free players to access the content via weekly passes regardless of you buying the expansion previously or not.

Would it be better if they implemented something like the new TSW business model ? Probably yes, but it is what it is at the moment. What if Blizzard suddenly decided to extend WoW's f2p trial to include every expansion but MoP which would remain available for subbers only ?

I can guarantee that lots of people would happily drop their subscriptions and would still be complaining that Blizzard took away MoP from them (for those who paid for that expansion) when it would be clear from the beginning that MoP would not be part of the deal.

 

Sorry, but the truth is many people read or hear F2P and they immediately see themselves having access to everything without having to pay a cent, ever. Have you heard the saying : "Give them an inch, they want a mile".  I think it's perfectly valid in this case.

 

As for your AA concern, people who bought the RotGS expansion have access to the full AA system in AoC under the f2p model. The only option in the AA system unavailable for free players who own the expansion is the time trained feature. 

 

Ah, there's a clearer picture. I was perplexed thinking how could Funcom make their customers pay twice for expansions...

Originally posted by marz.at.play
Would have preferred AoC go the B2P option similar to TSW but this is still a good step in the right direction. Now we have a better trial to 80. :)

Yeah, I still dislike the fact that people who purchased Rise of the Godslayer still cannot access the areas they purchased without a sub or a game pass. If they removed that restriction and made it B2P like TSW I would probably play AoC on the side.

It wasn't a bad F2P to begin with. I played the game early on (I love Howard's Conan..) wasn't terribly blown away by the content and quit. There were some things I liked about the combat and some of the stories were interesting in a MMO sense.

I went back some time after F2P was live because I won a drawing for 50 bucks in game cash and probably still have 20 dollars worth of credits in the game.

Just never have been drawn back due to more interesting things to play out there. This is a pretty good way to generate interest. Might see if any of my MMO-crew is interested in picking it up and join them with a class I didn't play previously. 

Originally posted by Robokapp

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Humm, I wonder if CCP folks might be getting abit nervous.

hmmm. perplex...pre...PLEX.

 

You can play eve for free if you want with no restrictions.

 

one may even argue that paying your pilot license with real money is P2W...and PLEX is the intended rp-way to go.

nope, it's pay to cry XD, there have been people who have lost, that's right lost, hundreds if not thousands of dollars in plexes when they got ganked in their shuttles while being complete... well calling em noobs would be an insult to noobs, better form would be window licking people. True there are people who use plex to bankroll endeavours hell the plex system itself came into being as a reaction to a particular incident where an entire coalition of russian corps was funded by a real world russian mogul and we're talking thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars poured into the game and that guy quite literally tanked the then GTC market to the point where CCP had to step into correct the issue before gametime became too cheap (for fairly obvious reasons they want allot of people buying GTCs not just one dolts so to prevent a collapse of the market as people turned to illegal RMT to earn more isk for their bug they basically cleaned house, if I remember correctly they banned the russian guy for unsavoury/against EULA behaviour and bought all the plexes on the market, both from him and others, and put them up for higher prices to start the trend back up)