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  ShakyMo

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12/14/12 10:22:45 AM#41
Let me be clear.

While I think planetside 2 and eve have better pvp.

Gw2 pvp is still good and Is vastly superior to what constitutes pvp in wow and even more so its clones like swtor & rift.
  User Deleted
12/14/12 10:37:05 AM#42

Spawn camping doesn't mean they kill YOU repeatedly. It means they camp one spawn point to gank and kill anyone respawning who just died as soon as he leaves protection. Something which should be impossible in a well designed PvP MMO game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06HifY9NOHA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kgAHhnd7Ec

And by the way... the Planetside 2 forum is right here... don't thank me, you're welcome ;)

  ShakyMo

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12/14/12 10:48:03 AM#43
Yes

YOU HAVE SEVERAL CHOICES OF WHERE TO SPAWN. ONE OF WHICH IS ENTIRELY SAFE AND ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

If you are thick as pigshit and continue to click the one at the very top of the lust despite dieing 20 times on the trot then I guess that is "spawn camping" or perhaps natural selection at play.

P.s. you can actually get spawn camped in gw2 though.
  Chingo

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12/14/12 10:52:07 AM#44

OP, "people are saying" anything. I'd guess "people" experience GW2 PvP very differently based on their expectations for PvP and how they play it in GW2 (eg. pickup groups vs. premades, W3 vs. sPvP). 

Personally, I like strawberries.

  User Deleted
12/14/12 10:54:43 AM#45
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Yes

YOU HAVE SEVERAL CHOICES OF WHERE TO SPAWN. ONE OF WHICH IS ENTIRELY SAFE AND ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

If you are thick as pigshit and continue to click the one at the very top of the lust despite dieing 20 times on the trot then I guess that is "spawn camping" or perhaps natural selection at play.

 

You didn't read or at least understand what I was saying. They don't kill YOU over and over again, but they still kill people who just happened to spawn at that specific spot. It's people who just died, so not ready to face several other players alone. Easy kills.


P.s. you can actually get spawn camped in gw2 though.

Actually, nope you can't - unless you can survive the legendary defenders, which I seriously doubt =P

Anyway, I'm gonna ignore PS2 propaganda from now on, as I ignore other game's propaganda - if I want to read about PS2, I go on the forum I linked in my previous post.

  ZizouX

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12/14/12 11:03:02 AM#46
Originally posted by Xepo
Originally posted by DiSpLiFF

I don't think i've heard anyone claim this game is the best for pvp. 

Anyone who does is on crack. Most of the compliments this game gets is the fact that it's B2P, and doesn't have a "gear grind". 

Ok then....... Let's take it a bit farther for the masses. GW2 is that and it offers a nice flow of exploration with the freedom from quest hub grinds. GW2 also has more voice acting in the game instead of walls of mindless text to read (the random NPC voice acting is more massive than most games over all voice acting). There are few zones where the world doesn't feel alive with NPCs (both friendly and enemy). You can hop into PvP at early levels (I believe even level 1) and be rewarded for your efforts. All zones are replayable and challenging due to the level sync system, so you enjoy exploring the starting zones of ALL areas. Combat is skill based and not gear and level based (you have to know your rolls and learn to dodge attacks)

There are many "claims" that this game can have. Is this the "Holy Grail" of MMOs? No one will go that far. Is it the best game for PvP? That is relative to what a gamer is looking to get out of PvP. For many it is a well designed MMO for PvE and PvP. If the game isn't for you then there are many out there you can find. WoW is fun if you are the one geared (at lower levels) with heirlooms and upper enchants. Rift has a nice PvP system also. Get out there and explore your options. You may find a game that you like to play.

+1 Post.  GW2 is amazingly fun for me.  I am a casual player now whereas before I was hardcore (Wow, FFXI).  I have a family, a career, etc...  I love not having to worry about "raid times" and blocking off 3 hours a night for 4 nights a week.

So, for someone who enjoys pve, pve and everything else GW2 has to offer....it really is the best of all worlds when you look at it in totality.  I'm not saying each individual part is the best, but as a whole, I really can't think of any other game that offers more value and doesn't make you feel you've been left behind everytime a content patch rolls around.

 

In WoW there was the pressure of maintaining pace with the content patches and the expansions.... I'm sorry I litterally cannot live that type of life and I think most first generation MMO gameers cannot as well.  We've grown up and we need a more flexible options in our lives.... 

PS - I think wow arenas had a lot of depth and strategy to combat, assuming that the teams had equal gear.  In GW2, that is ALWAYS the case.  You win or lose based solely on skill and coordination.  I also think combo fields, finishers and well thought out synergy between you and your party makes a difference.  GW2 combat is easy and fun to start, but it has a very deep combat system that few fail to really realize.

  austriacus

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12/14/12 4:11:07 PM#47
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Simply becuase this game is best for PvP

Only game with better PvP is Knight Online World and that can be argued.

Really! perhaps you need to have a read of this before you claim GW2 is the best PVP game around, GW2 PvP is near on meaningless .

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5454980#5454980

 I know its really hard for you sandboxers to understand, but a lot of us are not interested in warfare and castles.

We just want a controlled match were we can outskill people if we can.

You dont see people asking for permanent impact on the world of counter strike or dota.

  Kuppa

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12/14/12 4:14:06 PM#48
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Simply becuase this game is best for PvP

Only game with better PvP is Knight Online World and that can be argued.

Really! perhaps you need to have a read of this before you claim GW2 is the best PVP game around, GW2 PvP is near on meaningless .

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5454980#5454980

 I know its really hard for you sandboxers to understand, but a lot of us are not interested in warfare and castles.

We just want a controlled match were we can outskill people if we can.

You dont see people asking for permanent impact on the world of counter strike or dota.

lol this was great, +1.


  Rimmersman

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12/14/12 5:27:51 PM#49
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Simply becuase this game is best for PvP

Only game with better PvP is Knight Online World and that can be argued.

Really! perhaps you need to have a read of this before you claim GW2 is the best PVP game around, GW2 PvP is near on meaningless .

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5454980#5454980

 I know its really hard for you sandboxers to understand, but a lot of us are not interested in warfare and castles.

We just want a controlled match were we can outskill people if we can.

You dont see people asking for permanent impact on the world of counter strike or dota.

Who said the game's just about warfare and castle, i can PvP in a controlled matches and outskill people if i want as well.

So your point is mute because any type of PVP you can do in GW2 i can do in AOW and more. On top of that GW2 PvP is near on meaningless and just a repetitive bore.

  Icewhite

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12/14/12 7:43:04 PM#50
Originally posted by Rimmersman

So your point is mute because...

No point has ever been mute.  Deaf, sometimes.  Blind, oh yes.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  hikaru77

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12/14/12 7:48:27 PM#51
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Let me be clear.

While I think planetside 2 and eve have better pvp.

Gw2 pvp is still good and Is vastly superior to what constitutes pvp in wow and even more so its clones like swtor & rift.

No, GW2 have the worst Spvp system on the market, even GW1 is better, dont know maybe a few month it will be better, but now, is just Bad, too casual, too easy, and an spam fest where teamplay or competitive pvp is not part of the game. 

  luclinraider

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12/14/12 7:52:31 PM#52

I dont know of anyone who thinks GW2 is the best PvP.  If you do....then you clearly have very little experience in MMO PvP.

 

Is it the worst? No......but not even near the top.

  Kuro1n

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12/14/12 7:54:45 PM#53
PVP is boring and mindlessly zerging in GW2.
  austriacus

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12/14/12 8:12:47 PM#54
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Simply becuase this game is best for PvP

Only game with better PvP is Knight Online World and that can be argued.

Really! perhaps you need to have a read of this before you claim GW2 is the best PVP game around, GW2 PvP is near on meaningless .

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5454980#5454980

 I know its really hard for you sandboxers to understand, but a lot of us are not interested in warfare and castles.

We just want a controlled match were we can outskill people if we can.

You dont see people asking for permanent impact on the world of counter strike or dota.

Who said the game's just about warfare and castle, i can PvP in a controlled matches and outskill people if i want as well.

So your point is mute because any type of PVP you can do in GW2 i can do in AOW and more. On top of that GW2 PvP is near on meaningless and just a repetitive bore.

 Oh? So you get to max stat in AOW when you pvp with someone else? Even if that were the case ive seen the gameplay, its not half as polished as Gw2 and the atack system quite frankly while original seems extremely boring.

Also PvP doesnt have to have a meaning thats the whole point thats why i Pvp, i only pvp to be better. Nothing you do in a game is meaningfull no matter what systems you implement in my opinion.

Also it might seem repetitive to you but its no different from LoL or any competitive pvp game, do i have to tell you which is the most popular game right now?

 But carry on, keep promoting your niche game.

  austriacus

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12/14/12 8:14:26 PM#55
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Let me be clear.

While I think planetside 2 and eve have better pvp.

Gw2 pvp is still good and Is vastly superior to what constitutes pvp in wow and even more so its clones like swtor & rift.

No, GW2 have the worst Spvp system on the market, even GW1 is better, dont know maybe a few month it will be better, but now, is just Bad, too casual, too easy, and an spam fest where teamplay or competitive pvp is not part of the game. 

 LoL is the most casual and easy game on existence and look where it is now.

  hikaru77

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12/14/12 8:23:06 PM#56
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Let me be clear.

While I think planetside 2 and eve have better pvp.

Gw2 pvp is still good and Is vastly superior to what constitutes pvp in wow and even more so its clones like swtor & rift.

No, GW2 have the worst Spvp system on the market, even GW1 is better, dont know maybe a few month it will be better, but now, is just Bad, too casual, too easy, and an spam fest where teamplay or competitive pvp is not part of the game. 

 LoL is the most casual and easy game on existence and look where it is now.

LoL is not casual and is competitive PvP, GW2 is not.  

  Bad.dog

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12/14/12 8:32:58 PM#57
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Let me be clear.

While I think planetside 2 and eve have better pvp.

Gw2 pvp is still good and Is vastly superior to what constitutes pvp in wow and even more so its clones like swtor & rift.

No, GW2 have the worst Spvp system on the market, even GW1 is better, dont know maybe a few month it will be better, but now, is just Bad, too casual, too easy, and an spam fest where teamplay or competitive pvp is not part of the game. 

 LoL is the most casual and easy game on existence and look where it is now.

LoL is not casual and is competitive PvP, GW2 is not.  

Not sure how you would know ...you have posted before you haven't played since day 15 . I think the pvp is well balanced and as hard core as you want to make it ...I think the casual folks are the dead ones is that how you found it ?

  Acidon

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12/14/12 8:34:02 PM#58
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Rimmersman

So your point is mute because...

No point has ever been mute.  Deaf, sometimes.  Blind, oh yes.

lol.. nice.

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  Lord.Bachus

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12/15/12 12:29:13 AM#59
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

Simply becuase this game is best for PvP

Only game with better PvP is Knight Online World and that can be argued.

Really! perhaps you need to have a read of this before you claim GW2 is the best PVP game around, GW2 PvP is near on meaningless .

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5454980#5454980

Maybe his opinion is based on his own experiences instead of what others have to say about it, something i can advise more then half the posters in this thread.

Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  austriacus

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12/15/12 12:50:04 AM#60
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Let me be clear.

While I think planetside 2 and eve have better pvp.

Gw2 pvp is still good and Is vastly superior to what constitutes pvp in wow and even more so its clones like swtor & rift.

No, GW2 have the worst Spvp system on the market, even GW1 is better, dont know maybe a few month it will be better, but now, is just Bad, too casual, too easy, and an spam fest where teamplay or competitive pvp is not part of the game. 

 LoL is the most casual and easy game on existence and look where it is now.

LoL is not casual and is competitive PvP, GW2 is not.  

 So what are the 10million players that play 1-2 games a day? hardcore? It is casual by any stretch, not to mention exceedingly easier  to grasp and get into than its peers.

A competitive scene doesnt dictate if a pvp game is casual or not, its the complexity of the systems and the time required to get a grasp of the basic gameplay that say so. Both LoL and GW2 are easy games to pick and grasp, but hard to master.

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