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  karmath

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12/14/12 2:40:23 AM#41

I seriously cannot comprehend why people are in a total hurr fit over a $15 sub fee. That price has not changed in over a decade, name one form of entertainment that hasnt seen a price increase since the late 90's/early 00's.

It really speaks to the age and maturity of people who carry on about such non issues.

  patrikd23

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

12/14/12 2:45:59 AM#42
Yeah I will pass also on this.
  Zyzra

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12/14/12 2:49:18 AM#43

The people who think $15 dollars is way too much to spend on a month of entertainment remind me of Mr. Burns!

"One dollar for eternal happiness?  I'd be happier with the dollar."

 

A movie in my area at a theatre costs around 10 dollars.  It lasts 2, maybe 3 hours at most.

I could use netflix but OMG IT HAS SUB FEE which of course means its not a good value.

 

I could eat at a restaurant and pay money, or I could sift through their dumpster in the back for a free meal.  HEY ITS FREE MUST BE DAMN BETTER THAN ONE THAT HAS A COST!!!!

  Hotjazz

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12/14/12 3:00:07 AM#44
Originally posted by stux

 Paying for some things aren't worth it to some and are to others.  Maybe I should make a post about how I feel Darkfall is worth $15/mo and we can discuss that.

Well,

Darkfall is a rare gem amongst the myriads of wow clones, so that`s one reason.

Getting killed in Darkfall accually mean something.

Players have an impact on the world.

It is a mmorpg, not a single player game with other players.

Darkfall is scary, and some of us like that.

 

I`m sure others will find different reasons on why Darkfall is worth 15$. I`m going to buy three accounts, so I think Darkfall is worth 45$ a month.

  xmenty

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12/14/12 3:05:15 AM#45

Hey guys let overhype our Darkfall: Unholy Wars,

Lets spam the mmorpg top voted games again, so we could be awesome. 

We all know anyone that give any negative opinion about our beloved Darkfall: Unholy Wars

are poor uneducated PVE carebear underage kids who cannot afford $15 a month.

Tell them to go and $#%#, show everyone that we have the best community in an MMO.

/sigh this is my perceptions that I get from reading all the DF players post in this forums.

Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language :)

  virindi1

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Joined: 12/25/07
Posts: 89

12/14/12 3:06:33 AM#46
Originally posted by ice-vortex
I was basically determined to purchase Darkfall: UW, but now with the monthly fee reveal of $15, I have decided against it. An MMORPG just isn't worth almost twice the price of Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu Plus, Xbox Live, and Playstation Plus. At Darkfall's price point, I could subscribe to Gamefly or Blockbuster and have an unlimited supply of new games to play. With other sandbox games like the Repopulation, which is free to play, coming out, I just don't see a reason to subscribe to Darkfall at the price point the developer has set.

 

Grow up you baby, get a job and stop sucking on daddy's tit. $15/month is nothing.

  marcust

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Joined: 12/12/03
Posts: 444

12/14/12 3:47:32 AM#47

I have absolutely no problem with taking a sandwich to work twice a month to cover my Darkfall cost.

Hell, I will even feel the warm glow of knowing I'm helping support a basketcase economy.

If you cant afford to pay for this then I hope your financial situation changes soon.

Playing: GW2, Lotro
Also played and worth mentioning: UO, WoW, Lineage2, Darkfall, TSW, ESO

  Caldrin

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12/14/12 3:52:46 AM#48
Originally posted by Asm0deus
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by Pivotelite

Damn .50C per day sure is a lot to ask for hours of entertainment per day eh...

 

I'd rather go get a large pizza and eat that in a few hours for $15 than play 100-200 hours worth of a video game.

WOW!!  Darkfall only costs HALF A CENT per day?  That's dirt cheap!!!

Haha not when many games now cost 0.00 cents a day to play !!!

But most f2p games are crap. and if they are good you usually end up spending more in their cash shops anyway..

 

For me sub is the way forward, hopefulyl we will see the end of shit f2p games nad cash shops soon..

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  SysFail

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12/14/12 4:00:44 AM#49
Originally posted by Siveria

Meh, game will prob die in 3 months or so, mostly due to the player corpse looting, I bet you if they made a server with a slightly diff ruleset, namely the no player corpse looting, it'd be the most full server they got, i got a ton of friends that would play DF:UW if the player corpse looting on any death part was removed, or if it offered a server with that rule removed. Besides, passing on darkfall UW your not missing much at all, other than the annoyed and frustration of asshats ganking you while yer fighting a monster, or griefers camping low lv area's on a high skilled char just to be a jerk. Its not that people are scared to lose items (As i understand it items were easy to replace in the orignal darkfall) But its more the fact that everytime they die they are going to have to waste time out of their playtime to run around town like a moron to replace gear, just to go back out and probally get ganked again and have to repeat the process. IMO you should only have a *chance* for stuff in inventory to be dropped, and equipped gear cannot be looted period.

I mean think about it: would you rather the game die in a few months? or would you rather it live? with the current ruleset in todays mmorpg market I doubt the game will last long. The so called "hardcore" pvp crowd is so tiny that its not enough to support a game and make it profitable. Removing one rule, will piss off a few of the so called hardcore people (however most of these hardcore people are the types who kill low lvs and run like a chicken from anyone who could fight back). But in return they will get alot more subs, alot more revenue, and the game will life a bit longer. But I'll be honest I don't expect any mmo released recently to last more than 6 months before having to go f2p or die. People are just getting tired of the subscription model, when most of the time they can find the same kind fo gameplay or even better gameplay out there somewhere for free.

UW is going to be offering a much more secure introduction to the game than the original. NPC towns are now non fighting area's, in the original many clans and players were griefed in NPC towns, which forced many to quit before they got of the ground, so that aspect has been removed.

 

There is to be area's where low end monster spawns will be in area's protected by NPC guard towers, so new players won't have to worry about being killed before they've had time to adjust to the game.

Players jumping you while fighting mob spawns with higher rewards, this will happen and happen a lot, it's part of the design for mob spawns to be fought over, higher level mobs should be fought over and this won't change.

This is where team work comes in to play, groups will use a scout to keep an eye out for enemies, allowing them to prepare for a fight, or they may flight, darkfall has always been about situational awareness and the "how much do i farm before banking" philoshophy.

 

Remember Darkfall is mean't to be an extreme experience that makes a player think about situations, rather than the farm in peace way of the 1001 MMO's out there and it wasn't easy to replace items, this is why players made seige bags with their best items, because it took a lot of time gathering mats for high end equipment.

 

You're biggest failing though is trying to place DF in the same mold as the 1001 MMO's that are the same but with a different skin, which is wrong and we know, the devs know, everyone knows that this type of game is a niche.

The devs aren't stupid, they aren't expecting blizzard type income, they are more interested in making a game they want to play rather than a game that they think can milk players of their hard earned money ala blizz, EA, SOE etc etc.

  Eir_S

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12/14/12 5:16:23 AM#50

Originally posted by karmath

I seriously cannot comprehend why people are in a total hurr fit over a $15 sub fee. That price has not changed in over a decade, name one form of entertainment that hasnt seen a price increase since the late 90's/early 00's.

It really speaks to the age and maturity of people who carry on about such non issues.

Originally posted by virindi1

Originally posted by ice-vortex
I was basically determined to purchase Darkfall: UW, but now with the monthly fee reveal of $15, I have decided against it. An MMORPG just isn't worth almost twice the price of Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu Plus, Xbox Live, and Playstation Plus. At Darkfall's price point, I could subscribe to Gamefly or Blockbuster and have an unlimited supply of new games to play. With other sandbox games like the Repopulation, which is free to play, coming out, I just don't see a reason to subscribe to Darkfall at the price point the developer has set.

 

Grow up you baby, get a job and stop sucking on daddy's tit. $15/month is nothing.

Tell me more, karmath.

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

12/14/12 5:18:31 AM#51
Originally posted by Crunchy222
Originally posted by Eir_S
I'm not sure I've decided to pass on it yet, but I generally don't enjoy many P2P games these days regardless of their payment model, and Darkfall: UW just looks even less impressive than the usual.

Stick to GW2.  If you managed to stay there this long without boredom or lack of excitement this game wont be for you.  Completely different breed of game.

 

Also anyone who has to hesitate at spending $15 probably shouldnt be gaming anyway.  Time should be spent getting yourself out of poverty....which doesnt occur behind a gaming rig for hours a day.

[mod edit]

Nah, I'll stick to games that are worth the money to ME, and Darkfall: UW doesn't look like it's going to be.

  Vesavius

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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

12/14/12 5:28:57 AM#52
Originally posted by ice-vortex
I was basically determined to purchase Darkfall: UW, but now with the monthly fee reveal of $15, I have decided against it. An MMORPG just isn't worth almost twice the price of Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu Plus, Xbox Live, and Playstation Plus. At Darkfall's price point, I could subscribe to Gamefly or Blockbuster and have an unlimited supply of new games to play. With other sandbox games like the Repopulation, which is free to play, coming out, I just don't see a reason to subscribe to Darkfall at the price point the developer has set.

 

[mod edit]

It's £2.50 dude... £2.50...

If you allow that amount of money to cock block you from a game you would otherwise play I am not sure how to communicate to you.

  Vesavius

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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

12/14/12 5:34:24 AM#53
Originally posted by Eir_S

Nah, I'll stick to games that are worth the money to ME, and Darkfall: UW doesn't look like it's going to be.

 

Then it most probably would not be worth your actual time either, even if it was 100% free forever right?

I mean, who on Earth would spend their precious leisure time in a game they don't actually like enough to drop a neglible amount of money on?

 

  Thaliost

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12/14/12 5:36:38 AM#54

Fees always used to be 15$, I dunno where this marvel of discovery appeared from. You are posting in mmorpg.com, how can you be shocked at the fee???

 

#Anyways if you purchase multiple months, you'll get a discount.

#Regarding ganking, it's very interesting that when players die to NPCs and have to re-gear and run from town, they don't mind or rage quit. BUT if they get killed by another player, they rage so much more and it is so much more annoying.

If you think about it like this, it is easier to understand why DF rocks so much. It gets to your system!

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  wireded21

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12/14/12 5:44:16 AM#55

Don't worry, it will go F2P, P2W within a year... no game can survive with a sub price as high as that these days. Even a big budget AAA like SWTOR had to go F2P, same will happen here.

 

It's the way the industry is going.

 

Oh and yes I know SWTOR wasn't worth the sub and totally agree that DF is a better game.

 

  Kuviski

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12/14/12 6:45:20 AM#56
Originally posted by wireded21

Don't worry, it will go F2P, P2W within a year... no game can survive with a sub price as high as that these days. Even a big budget AAA like SWTOR had to go F2P, same will happen here.

 

It's the way the industry is going.

 

Oh and yes I know SWTOR wasn't worth the sub and totally agree that DF is a better game.

 

The two games aren't really comparable.

First off, a F2P model doesn't suit a conquest based, competitive game like Darkfall.

Second, SWTOR's budget was huge. They have to do really desperate things to even pay for some of the wasted money, which is why they moved to F2P so painlessly. Darkfall will probably make it's money back even with it's own niche crowd paying their monthly subs like in the past, and as far as I know, AV isn't even looking to make a very big profit.

 

And let's remember the first game lasted for years.

  Eir_S

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12/14/12 7:04:05 AM#57
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by Eir_S

Nah, I'll stick to games that are worth the money to ME, and Darkfall: UW doesn't look like it's going to be.

 

Then it most probably would not be worth your actual time either, even if it was 100% free forever right?

I mean, who on Earth would spend their precious leisure time in a game they don't actually like enough to drop a neglible amount of money on?

Well no, I won't play a game just because it's free... I have to enjoy it.  I'm weird like that.  Like I said, the pricing has little to do with my interest, but like I always maintain, I won't know until I give it a go (free trial, etc.)  I've been surprised before.

  User Deleted
12/14/12 7:10:41 AM#58

You can't have been that "determined" if $15 put you off.

 

You realise ofc that if you buy the product you get 30 days sub right? You also realise that if you find that it doesn't seem worth the money you can simply stop paying a sub and quit? You're not locked into paying for it for the next three years.

 

"Determined", yeah right.

 

PS, I see someone managed to get in mention of a PVE only server. Fucking lol.

  User Deleted
12/14/12 7:12:30 AM#59
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by Eir_S

Nah, I'll stick to games that are worth the money to ME, and Darkfall: UW doesn't look like it's going to be.

 

Then it most probably would not be worth your actual time either, even if it was 100% free forever right?

I mean, who on Earth would spend their precious leisure time in a game they don't actually like enough to drop a neglible amount of money on?

Well no, I won't play a game just because it's free... I have to enjoy it.  I'm weird like that.  Like I said, the pricing has little to do with my interest, but like I always maintain, I won't know until I give it a go (free trial, etc.)  I've been surprised before.

Did you get a free trial for GW2 outside of beta bug bashes?

  Aethaeryn

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12/14/12 7:12:48 AM#60
Originally posted by bunnyhopper

 

 

PS, I see someone managed to get in mention of a PVE only server. Fucking lol.

Says bunnyhopper :)  Wonder why you would not like that.  Regardless, I agree with everything else you said.   The $15 is not a surprise OP. . and if that bugs you . . imagine how you will feel when bunnyhopper is circle strafing you!

Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!

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