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  evemaster00

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OP  12/13/12 12:40:56 PM#1

We have Trion Worlds' 'Defiance' launching in April next year, 4 months away. It looks like everything that DUST could have been. What's more is it's going to be on PC, Xbox and PS3. Dust is limited to PS3.

I may be an EVE player but screw DUST, which is the same thinking of most EVE players, they don't care for DUST, and now we have a competing style of mmo releasing around the same time and sorry, but it looks like they've outclassed CCP with this one.

  Sideras

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12/13/12 12:44:49 PM#2
The whole concept behind DUST was really cool, too bad the game sucks ass. I was expecting something of Planetsides scale but it wasn't even on the same scale as BF3. Pathetic.
  Zekiah

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12/13/12 12:46:47 PM#3
I still don't understand why DUST didn't port to PC. Just doesn't make sense.

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  User Deleted
12/13/12 12:48:23 PM#4
Originally posted by Sideras
The whole concept behind DUST was really cool, too bad the game sucks ass. I was expecting something of Planetsides scale but it wasn't even on the same scale as BF3. Pathetic.

Dont think you quite realise what the concept of Dust 514 was and is then.

Because they concept is becoming a reality.

  vonryan123

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12/13/12 12:50:56 PM#5

From an eve player stand point Dust was in shit before it even made beta.

Foreget the fact its only ps3 atm and look at what the game mechanics will offer on top of the fact Console and PC gamers will never get along. Even if the game does well in the first few months I give it inside a year before we see a PC port or shut down.

Why? well anyone thats played FPS's on console or in general can more then likely agree once the next "Big" fps comes out Dust will get dropped like a bad habbit.                                                                                                                                                              

Even after that with the way eve is and the current game mechanics that would give Dust staying power.....well thats just it there is no staying power.

Nothing to build nothing to "earn" (I dont count titles and rank as valid solid game mechanic to keep people).

 

I wish dust all the luck in the world as a 5 year eve player (even though they shit in our faces all the time)

 

  NetSage

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12/13/12 1:13:17 PM#6

If it had a PC version I think it would do much better.  I mean PC FPSs seem to have more staying power(Counter Strike anyone?) and CCPs client base is already PC gamers.

It should have been PC>PS3>360(if they could work something out with microsoft).

  Sentime

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12/13/12 8:53:33 PM#7
Originally posted by evemaster00

We have Trion Worlds' 'Defiance' launching in April next year, 4 months away. It looks like everything that DUST could have been. What's more is it's going to be on PC, Xbox and PS3. Dust is limited to PS3.

I may be an EVE player but screw DUST, which is the same thinking of most EVE players, they don't care for DUST, and now we have a competing style of mmo releasing around the same time and sorry, but it looks like they've outclassed CCP with this one.

 

Defiance is a game that hasn't been released yet and you have absolutely no idea how it'll turn out.  One thing for sure it won't be DUST because it won't be in the EVE universe.

Just a reminder that EVE is more then about flashy, sparkly tihngs and mindless pew pew, and no you don't represent the thinking of most EVE players.

  Talonsin

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12/13/12 8:58:52 PM#8
I play Eve and I have no interest in DUST.  Its on a console and there are already a lot of good shooters out there.  Why CCP thought this would bring in more dollars is beyond me.  It also concerns me that people seem to be leaving CCP.  Over or whatever his name was who left to go to Trion was a founder of CCP or at least in there from a very early part.  To see him leave (and there have been others) is kinda scary.

  aRtFuLThinG

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12/13/12 8:59:54 PM#9

DUST is going to be releasing too late and inferior. Planetside 2 has already cornered the market and set the standard for the kind of mmofps that DUST also wanted to be.

 

DUST is in trouble NOW, not when it is going to be released.

  SlothnChunk

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12/13/12 9:05:41 PM#10
I think DUST is in major trouble. The concept behind it sounds awesome while the game itself isn't impressive at all.
  Jakdstripper

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12/13/12 9:18:46 PM#11
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

DUST is going to be releasing too late and inferior. Planetside 2 has already cornered the market and set the standard for the kind of mmofps that DUST also wanted to be.

 

DUST is in trouble NOW, not when it is going to be released.

pretty much.

on top of this they really screwed up by making this a PS3 exclusive when 100% of EvE players are PC users.

i've played Dust and it's just not that good. knowing that i is linked to EvE is sort of a cool angle but having to have a PS3 to play it is a deal breaker.

  aRtFuLThinG

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12/13/12 11:17:52 PM#12
Originally posted by Jakdstripper
Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

DUST is going to be releasing too late and inferior. Planetside 2 has already cornered the market and set the standard for the kind of mmofps that DUST also wanted to be.

 

DUST is in trouble NOW, not when it is going to be released.

pretty much.

on top of this they really screwed up by making this a PS3 exclusive when 100% of EvE players are PC users.

i've played Dust and it's just not that good. knowing that i is linked to EvE is sort of a cool angle but having to have a PS3 to play it is a deal breaker.

I think considering how good a job that SOE this time did (very out of the ordinary for SOE, I'd say well done) on Planetside 2, I can't help but feel that CCP probably should've worked with SOE on DUST instead of just getting the PS3 licensing and release the game on PC.

 

Especially considering the scale the they planned for Planetside2 (sea wars, carriers, freehold 4th continent, etc)... that could've easily be the scale that made DUST great.

 

It is an evil thought to think anyone going into alliance with SOE, but is something that came to my mind regarding this whole dilemma, lol.

  Sentime

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12/14/12 4:53:42 AM#13

Planteside 2?  Please.  

Things aren't looking so hot for that game.

 

DUST will be a niche game and I doubt that CCP cares about taking on the world.  They'll do their own thing like they did with EVE.

  Crazy_Stick

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12/14/12 9:33:42 AM#14
Originally posted by Zekiah
I still don't understand why DUST didn't port to PC. Just doesn't make sense.

Maybe it's all an evil plot to port EVE to PS3 as their new platform of choice after SOE buys out CCP ... ;)

  SpottyGekko

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12/14/12 9:41:28 AM#15
Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
Originally posted by Zekiah
I still don't understand why DUST didn't port to PC. Just doesn't make sense.

Maybe it's all an evil plot to port EVE to PS3 as their new platform of choice after SOE buys out CCP ... ;)

Given SOE's financial performance in the last few years, it may be CCP that buys out SOE... 

 

Except that CCP wouldn't be THAT stupid... would they ? 

  Yamota

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12/14/12 9:44:19 AM#16
Originally posted by Zekiah
I still don't understand why DUST didn't port to PC. Just doesn't make sense.

Agreed. Worst decision EVER.

  Yamota

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There's a beast within every man that stirs when you put a sword in his hand

12/14/12 9:49:09 AM#17
Originally posted by SpottyGekko
Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
Originally posted by Zekiah
I still don't understand why DUST didn't port to PC. Just doesn't make sense.

Maybe it's all an evil plot to port EVE to PS3 as their new platform of choice after SOE buys out CCP ... ;)

Given SOE's financial performance in the last few years, it may be CCP that buys out SOE... 

 

Except that CCP wouldn't be THAT stupid... would they ? 

Please. CCP is a one game wonder. Say what you say about SOE, I dont particulary like them because what they did with SWG and EQ 2, but they have created many games of which many were commercially successful. CCP created ONE game that is successful and that is it.

DUST looks to be a super nische game due to the idiotic decision to make it PS3 only and that horror/vampire MMO whats-it-name is nowhere to be seen for years.

  jagd1

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12/14/12 5:45:36 PM#18
Originally posted by evemaster00

I may be an EVE player but screw DUST, which is the same thinking of most EVE players, they don't care for DUST, and now we have a competing style of mmo releasing around the same time and sorry, but it looks like they've outclassed CCP with this one.

I dont know about defiance but this is not a surprise if you know CCP.   They got lucky with eve  without competition at genre and getting early on scene but i can tell they cant make a good game even if their life depend to it . Eve is nothing more than 4 elements at space (4 races / 4 damage types / 4 missile types /4 meta levels etc )  basicly with some other mechanics from UO  ( if you know eve history you know CCP devs/founders  meeted in playing  UO first )  .

Do you realise how is terriblle design is POS system ? Do you even thinked about this crap UI change  and wait anything good from a company made it ?  Sometimes you see a singer get hit with a song and  repeat it after rest of all career  ,i guess it is  one hit wonder in english  ,not sure .  Yes that one hit wonder singer is CCP  .

 

PS: I left after that UIGATE

 

  Loktofeit

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12/14/12 6:09:16 PM#19
Originally posted by evemaster00

I may be an EVE player but screw DUST, which is the same thinking of most EVE players, they don't care for DUST...

Were you basing your statement on a different set of data?

  Gdemami

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12/14/12 9:15:35 PM#20


Originally posted by Loktofeit

Were you basing your statement on a different set of data?

Isn't your graph saying the same thing?

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