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  Kenze

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12/12/12 5:59:49 PM#41


Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ortwig

Originally posted by ph3n0m73 ahh so glad this was one that i didnt buy..knew it was more trouble than its worth....anyhow feel bad for you subbers to be let down like this.
Not a let down at all -- it's an excellent deal for me (as a sub) and for lifetimers.  OP doesn't understand the change. http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=62789
How exactly is it a better deal than previously?

 

As I understand before they had to pay for NOTHING, now they will have to potentially pay for DLC.



nope FC is giving the the points(free) to pay for any DLC coming if they want too or they could just spend the points on other cash shop stuff. They are losing nothing, but their minds, it seems

Watch your thoughts; they become words.
Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
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  Po_gg

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12/12/12 5:59:53 PM#42
Originally posted by Tjed
Originally posted by banzai014
Originally posted by Roxtarr
Re-read the Terms and Conditions you agreed to and you may find you have no ground to stand on.

The EULA means nothing in Europe

This is interesting.  Any reading material that you could link?

I don't think subs were cheapened, so I'm just a curious bystander in this thread, but this statement is not entirely true. (Although I don't have the link).

If I remember correctly, the Eu Court decision only states that no parts of an EULA can oppose the Eu law, so it doesn't matter how corky are the lawyers who writes them, we can easily click Accept and we won't have to take part in Apple's human centiPad for example. South Park rocks :)

(in common language, the legal version would be much longer)

  AlBQuirky

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12/12/12 6:00:10 PM#43

LTS players gambled and lost. Nobody owes them anything. What if Funcom had shut down TSW? What are you "owed" then?

You put your quarter in the slot, hit the button, and lost. Does the casino owe you your quarters back?

You gambled that TSW would have a long subscription based life. The longer they charged sub fees, the more you "won." With games lately, I think that was kind of silly. Nobody owes you anything.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  Kuppa

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The problem with censorship is ********

12/12/12 6:00:22 PM#44
Originally posted by Ortwig
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by Ortwig
Originally posted by ph3n0m73
ahh so glad this was one that i didnt buy..knew it was more trouble than its worth....anyhow feel bad for you subbers to be let down like this.

Not a let down at all -- it's an excellent deal for me (as a sub) and for lifetimers.  OP doesn't understand the change.

http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=62789

How exactly is it a better deal than previously?

As I understand before they had to pay for NOTHING, now they will have to potentially pay for DLC.

The free points every month will be more than enough to cover a $5 DLC.

We don't know the price or how often they will be. As well as if you want to use some of that for other items in the cs. I don't think this is as clear cut, besides you were essentially getting 15 dollars a month before now it's 10 with some other ingame stuff that I'm not sure how much they amount to.


  Synthetick

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12/12/12 6:00:24 PM#45
Originally posted by CalmOceans
Originally posted by Synthetick
Originally posted by CalmOceans
Isn't this why mobile providers let former users get "grandfathered in", because if they change the terms of service when someone has a contract, they get sued?

Try READING the terms of services, jesus.

TOS is not legally binding, again, EULA and the TOS are not law, they can be ignored or enforced by a counrt at will.

Stop thinking EULA are legally binding contracts, they are not.

Many counrts have completely ingored EULA and thrown them out, especially because EULA are often not viewable before purchases of the item in retail stores.

You are completely wrong.

In 2011, George Hotz and others were sued by Sony Corporation. Sony claimed that by violating the Terms of Service of the PlayStation Network, Hotz & others were committing breach of contract.

 

Enough said. Go read up a bit on the suit. And if you do, you'll be able to find many similar cases. Trust me, they hold up. It's not just in video games, it's with most services. I was a call center manager at EPIQ Systems where we handled nothing but class actions lawsuits. Guess how many of them were in regards to TOS, and how many were completely overturned.

Anyways, moving on.

  huskie77

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Joined: 11/12/06
Posts: 368

12/12/12 6:01:22 PM#46

OP,

Please stop creating multiple threads intending to incite others. You are providing false information regarding FUNCOM. They did not violate any agreement with users. Their terms of service do not entitle you to any say in their business model. Nothing in the agreements state that they have to give you advance notice of any changes. Even the lifetime subscription is just an agreement to allow you access to the game server for the life of the game.

I understand you are upset, and you are entitled to feel that way. However, at this point you are intentionally commiting libel(defamation) against FUNCOM by stating false information in an effort to damage the image and value of a corporation. Please stop.

  Rayshe

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12/12/12 6:01:59 PM#47
No they didnt LOSE anything. they will still gain things in the game even if they dont play. its not like your suddenly forced to pay a subscription now your gains to loss will equal out given time. Thus your LOST nothing.

Because i can.
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  Ortwig

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Posts: 1046

12/12/12 6:02:27 PM#48
Originally posted by Rayshe

HAHAHAHA, oh thats too funy... wait your serious.

If your try this you WILL spend more money in court then the cost of the LTF Sub. and you will LOSE because when you read the TOS you will see you have no ground what so ever.

So how about this, Instead of bitching moaning and complaining you give it a month to see if there is ACTUALLY something to complain about. Your still getting things FREE yes more than the subs. Also if you calculate how long it will take to equalize loss to gain from buying the LTS, you will realize you are almost back to 0. not to mention your still gaining things.

so take a month or 2 and see if your little rage thread was a waste or not.

He just doesn't understand the change.  Basically subs and lifetimers will be getting the content updates for free.  DLC will be easily purchaseable with the free points given every month.

  VengeSunsoar

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12/12/12 6:03:19 PM#49

Actually there are several examples of the EULA being upheld by courts.

Simply stating EULA's are not binging is not accurate, as some have been.

It's all in what they say.

Here's just one example from a 1 second search.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/09/the-end-of-used-major-ruling-upholds-tough-software-licenses/

(no it's not MMO bu the issue was about EULA)

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  Kuppa

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Posts: 3443

The problem with censorship is ********

12/12/12 6:03:23 PM#50
Originally posted by Kenze

 


Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ortwig

Originally posted by ph3n0m73 ahh so glad this was one that i didnt buy..knew it was more trouble than its worth....anyhow feel bad for you subbers to be let down like this.
Not a let down at all -- it's an excellent deal for me (as a sub) and for lifetimers.  OP doesn't understand the change. http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=62789
How exactly is it a better deal than previously?

 

 

As I understand before they had to pay for NOTHING, now they will have to potentially pay for DLC.



nope FC is giving the the points(free) to pay for any DLC coming if they want too or they could just spend the points on other cash shop stuff. They are losing nothing, but their minds, it seems

 

Yes, but remember that you used to get points to spend on the cs before and had no dlc to buy. Now you have to buy the dlc so the content is not part of the deal.


  CalmOceans

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12/12/12 6:03:47 PM#51
Originally posted by Synthetick

You are completely wrong.

In 2011, George Hotz and others were sued by Sony Corporation. Sony claimed that by violating the Terms of Service of the PlayStation Network, Hotz & others were committing breach of contract.

 

Enough said.

Like I said, sometimes they are enforced, when the judge believes the terms of service were valid, in many cases they are not.

One example does not mean this happens in every case, in many cases the TOS is ignored, more often than not because the TOS is only presented AFTEr the product was bought.

If the TOS said that your life belongs to Blizzard in Blizzard's TOS, you would call that legally binding? Do you understand the difference between TOS and written law?

A TOS is made up by some lawyers of a company, it can say anyhting. Law goes through congress and gets voted on. It's not the same thing, they have different meanings in court.

  User Deleted
12/12/12 6:04:33 PM#52
Originally posted by Roxtarr
Re-read the Terms and Conditions you agreed to and you may find you have no ground to stand on.

To be fair, ToS and EULA's haven't really been tested in court.  Generally, whenever legal action is initiated or hinted at, the cmopanies quietly settle the matter or change the policy in question, rather than risk a jury trial setting a bad (from their prospective) precedent.

The most likely outcome is that in the next few days to weeks, Funcom will indeed change some of the details, particularly in regards to what lifetime subscribers get.

  VengeSunsoar

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12/12/12 6:04:45 PM#53
I wonder what the ratio is to wins/losses for EULA's.  Anyone know?

Quit worrying about other players in a game and just play.

  Kenze

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Joined: 4/24/07
Posts: 1235

12/12/12 6:06:00 PM#54


Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Kenze  

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ortwig

Originally posted by ph3n0m73 ahh so glad this was one that i didnt buy..knew it was more trouble than its worth....anyhow feel bad for you subbers to be let down like this.
Not a let down at all -- it's an excellent deal for me (as a sub) and for lifetimers.  OP doesn't understand the change. http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=62789
How exactly is it a better deal than previously?     As I understand before they had to pay for NOTHING, now they will have to potentially pay for DLC.
nope FC is giving the the points(free) to pay for any DLC coming if they want too or they could just spend the points on other cash shop stuff. They are losing nothing, but their minds, it seems  
Yes, but remember that you used to get points to spend on the cs before and had no dlc to buy. Now you have to buy the dlc so the content is not part of the deal.

they increased the amount of FC points you get per month though, wether you decide to buy the dlc or a new outfit is up to you.. it seems like your mad because you now can and have to make a choice?

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Watch your words; they become actions.
Watch your actions; they become habits.
Watch your habits; they become character.
Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
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  FromHell

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12/12/12 6:06:25 PM#55
Originally posted by Ortwig
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Teala
See, it is for this very reason that lifetime subs are worthless.

They MADE it worthless by giving away almost everything for free which I paid 200$ for.

 

Today I´m fed up with MMOs, look around, all cash grabs, no exceptions.

And the last bastion beside EvE, TSW catered to the cheapskates. Thanks for nothing. Now the 30$ lolkids will try to do investigation quests and fill up the chat with ""lollzthisgamesucks""whatis goin on lolzzz"

 

sad day

Please go read the FAQ.  It's the best B2P model I've seen.

it's great, only for everyone who didn't buy the 200$ lifetime sub on release.

I already HAD my B2P with that!

 

now I get loads of points but I don't buy clothing to play dolly!!!

 

you tell me how to spend those points, others get to play the whole game for ridiculous 30$ now. THANKS FC!!!

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  Gdemami

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12/12/12 6:06:35 PM#56


Originally posted by banzai014

The right thing to do is refund our remaining time and if we want to sub for your "better deal" we will.

That isn't the "right" thing, that is the thing you would like them to do.

2 different things.


They offered you compensation, you do not like it. Well, you gotta deal with it, they are not obliged to compensate you to your liking.

  Ortwig

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12/12/12 6:07:14 PM#57
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by Kenze

 


Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ortwig

Originally posted by ph3n0m73 ahh so glad this was one that i didnt buy..knew it was more trouble than its worth....anyhow feel bad for you subbers to be let down like this.
Not a let down at all -- it's an excellent deal for me (as a sub) and for lifetimers.  OP doesn't understand the change. http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=62789
How exactly is it a better deal than previously?

 

As I understand before they had to pay for NOTHING, now they will have to potentially pay for DLC.



nope FC is giving the the points(free) to pay for any DLC coming if they want too or they could just spend the points on other cash shop stuff. They are losing nothing, but their minds, it seems

Yes, but remember that you used to get points to spend on the cs before and had no dlc to buy. Now you have to buy the dlc so the content is not part of the deal.

Stop confusing the matter.

  1. Subs and lifers get free points every month (they add up)
  2. When a DLC comes along subs and lifers can use the points to buy it, and probably have plenty left over.  $5 is the quoted price of the DLC, but whatever.
Simple.
  huskie77

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12/12/12 6:07:30 PM#58
TOS is a written contract that the user consents to abide by upon installing the software. The only time the TOS is nullified is when it's terms are in direct conflict with the law or in some way violates basic human rights. This is true of the courts in Western Europe as well as North America.

  Kuppa

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12/12/12 6:07:33 PM#59
Originally posted by Kenze

 


Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Kenze  

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ortwig

Originally posted by ph3n0m73 ahh so glad this was one that i didnt buy..knew it was more trouble than its worth....anyhow feel bad for you subbers to be let down like this.
Not a let down at all -- it's an excellent deal for me (as a sub) and for lifetimers.  OP doesn't understand the change. http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=62789
How exactly is it a better deal than previously?     As I understand before they had to pay for NOTHING, now they will have to potentially pay for DLC.
nope FC is giving the the points(free) to pay for any DLC coming if they want too or they could just spend the points on other cash shop stuff. They are losing nothing, but their minds, it seems  
Yes, but remember that you used to get points to spend on the cs before and had no dlc to buy. Now you have to buy the dlc so the content is not part of the deal.

 

they increased the amount of FC points you get per month though, wether you decide to buy the dlc or a new outfit is up to you.. it seems like your mad because you now can and have to make a choice?

No, it's the point that before I would get less but I would get ALL the content. Now you have to decide between shop or content.


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12/12/12 6:07:36 PM#60
Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Actually there are several examples of the EULA being upheld by courts.

Simply stating EULA's are not binging is not accurate, as some have been.

It's all in what they say.

Here's just one example from a 1 second search.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/09/the-end-of-used-major-ruling-upholds-tough-software-licenses/

(no it's not MMO bu the issue was about EULA)

The problem is that there has been no court has ruled on EULA's or TOS's as a whole.  Instead, they just focus on a few parts of the particular license as it applies to that particular product.  They've been very deliberate in not ruling on anything more broadly.

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