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  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

12/20/12 1:45:42 PM#41
Originally posted by MyTabbycat
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by karmath
The point you are missing OP is the fact that the IP is known for a specific kind of openworld gameplay, if you take that away you have just another fantasy IP and alienating your core fanbase to boot.

And thats the sad part, I'm taking a wait and see approach but for a company to alienating millions upon millions of built in fans is the most assinine thing I can think of lol. 

 

We don't want those 7mil+ people that bought Skyrim or our other TES games, we are focusing on the 200-300k players your standard MMO has... 

 

wtf lol! 

They already chose to alienate them by going PC and Mac.

Going PC? You mean like do what they've been doing since the beggining? TES has been PC since day 1 lol and the PC version has always been a great deal better than the console version :) 

 

TES: Arena - PC

TES: DaggerFall - PC

Battlespire and Redguard I will skip over even though they were both on PC

TES: Morrowind - PC

TES: Oblivion - PC

TES: Skyrim - PC

 

So... how did they alienate them by going PC considering they've always been on PC?

I think he meant by not releasing it for console. The reason, of course, is that current consoles can't handle the game. However, they aren't ruling out future consoles, so there could be hope for that on the horizon. The devs have only said they are focusing on getting it ready for PC & Mac for now.

Ahh, well usually MMO's have trouble coming to console anyways thanks to Microsoft lol. They don't like putting MMO's onto the 360, FFXI is one of the very few exceptions. Not exactly them alienating players. I guess it didn't dawn on me that this is what he meant considering the lack of logic in it. 

  lizardbones

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12/20/12 1:46:31 PM#42


Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by karmath The point you are missing OP is the fact that the IP is known for a specific kind of openworld gameplay, if you take that away you have just another fantasy IP and alienating your core fanbase to boot.
And thats the sad part, I'm taking a wait and see approach but for a company to alienating millions upon millions of built in fans is the most assinine thing I can think of lol. 

We don't want those 7mil+ people that bought Skyrim or our other TES games, we are focusing on the 200-300k players your standard MMO has... 

wtf lol! 




How would you have any idea what seven million people are thinking? The idea that they are all thinking the same thing is ludicrous. You know what the vast majority of those people think? Whatever is on the first page of the website.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

12/20/12 1:49:27 PM#43
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by karmath The point you are missing OP is the fact that the IP is known for a specific kind of openworld gameplay, if you take that away you have just another fantasy IP and alienating your core fanbase to boot.
And thats the sad part, I'm taking a wait and see approach but for a company to alienating millions upon millions of built in fans is the most assinine thing I can think of lol. 

 

We don't want those 7mil+ people that bought Skyrim or our other TES games, we are focusing on the 200-300k players your standard MMO has... 

wtf lol! 




How would you have any idea what seven million people are thinking? The idea that they are all thinking the same thing is ludicrous. You know what the vast majority of those people think? Whatever is on the first page of the website.

 

Sorry, it's called deductive reasoning. 

"Deductive reasoning is one of the two basic forms of valid reasoning. It begins with a general hypothesis or known fact and creates a specific conclusion from that generalization."

The more you know!

  Fearum

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1092

12/20/12 2:13:08 PM#44
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by MyTabbycat
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by karmath
The point you are missing OP is the fact that the IP is known for a specific kind of openworld gameplay, if you take that away you have just another fantasy IP and alienating your core fanbase to boot.

And thats the sad part, I'm taking a wait and see approach but for a company to alienating millions upon millions of built in fans is the most assinine thing I can think of lol. 

 

We don't want those 7mil+ people that bought Skyrim or our other TES games, we are focusing on the 200-300k players your standard MMO has... 

 

wtf lol! 

They already chose to alienate them by going PC and Mac.

Going PC? You mean like do what they've been doing since the beggining? TES has been PC since day 1 lol and the PC version has always been a great deal better than the console version :) 

 

TES: Arena - PC

TES: DaggerFall - PC

Battlespire and Redguard I will skip over even though they were both on PC

TES: Morrowind - PC

TES: Oblivion - PC

TES: Skyrim - PC

 

So... how did they alienate them by going PC considering they've always been on PC?

I think he meant by not releasing it for console. The reason, of course, is that current consoles can't handle the game. However, they aren't ruling out future consoles, so there could be hope for that on the horizon. The devs have only said they are focusing on getting it ready for PC & Mac for now.

Ahh, well usually MMO's have trouble coming to console anyways thanks to Microsoft lol. They don't like putting MMO's onto the 360, FFXI is one of the very few exceptions. Not exactly them alienating players. I guess it didn't dawn on me that this is what he meant considering the lack of logic in it. 

Yeah lack of logic on your part as to thinking that it sold more on PC than console.

  Fearum

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1092

12/20/12 2:14:02 PM#45
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by karmath The point you are missing OP is the fact that the IP is known for a specific kind of openworld gameplay, if you take that away you have just another fantasy IP and alienating your core fanbase to boot.
And thats the sad part, I'm taking a wait and see approach but for a company to alienating millions upon millions of built in fans is the most assinine thing I can think of lol. 

 

We don't want those 7mil+ people that bought Skyrim or our other TES games, we are focusing on the 200-300k players your standard MMO has... 

wtf lol! 




How would you have any idea what seven million people are thinking? The idea that they are all thinking the same thing is ludicrous. You know what the vast majority of those people think? Whatever is on the first page of the website.

 

Sorry, it's called deductive reasoning. 

"Deductive reasoning is one of the two basic forms of valid reasoning. It begins with a general hypothesis or known fact and creates a specific conclusion from that generalization."

The more you know!

No its called personal opinion.

o·pin·ion (-pnyn)

n.
1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: "The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion" (Elizabeth Drew).
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.

4. The prevailing view: public opinion.

5. Law A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the
 
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  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

12/20/12 2:18:29 PM#46
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by MyTabbycat
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Fearum
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by karmath
The point you are missing OP is the fact that the IP is known for a specific kind of openworld gameplay, if you take that away you have just another fantasy IP and alienating your core fanbase to boot.

And thats the sad part, I'm taking a wait and see approach but for a company to alienating millions upon millions of built in fans is the most assinine thing I can think of lol. 

 

We don't want those 7mil+ people that bought Skyrim or our other TES games, we are focusing on the 200-300k players your standard MMO has... 

 

wtf lol! 

They already chose to alienate them by going PC and Mac.

Going PC? You mean like do what they've been doing since the beggining? TES has been PC since day 1 lol and the PC version has always been a great deal better than the console version :) 

 

TES: Arena - PC

TES: DaggerFall - PC

Battlespire and Redguard I will skip over even though they were both on PC

TES: Morrowind - PC

TES: Oblivion - PC

TES: Skyrim - PC

 

So... how did they alienate them by going PC considering they've always been on PC?

I think he meant by not releasing it for console. The reason, of course, is that current consoles can't handle the game. However, they aren't ruling out future consoles, so there could be hope for that on the horizon. The devs have only said they are focusing on getting it ready for PC & Mac for now.

Ahh, well usually MMO's have trouble coming to console anyways thanks to Microsoft lol. They don't like putting MMO's onto the 360, FFXI is one of the very few exceptions. Not exactly them alienating players. I guess it didn't dawn on me that this is what he meant considering the lack of logic in it. 

Yeah lack of logic on your part as to thinking that it sold more on PC than console.

Now where did I say or even imply that? Are you simply attempting to argue for the sake of arguing? I believe you are so I will simply bow out of the conversation lol. Good luck to you lol. 

  Sovrath

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Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 17226

12/20/12 2:23:35 PM#47
Originally posted by Esquire1980

Is there somewhere I've missed that states ESO will not have deco and housing?  Even instanced?  Have not seen it if there is.  That might be a game-breaker for me, to be honest.  I have not been able to find much official released info on the game systems and features, period, outside of the 1 trailer.

Been looking for a game with decent housing and deco since SWG.  A place to call my own in the MMO world.

Have been playing Skyrim and the combo of sandbox world exploration and themepark quest leveling seems to fit well together in that context.  I understand that end-game will be PVP and some style of PVE raiding but it pretty much is in just about any MMO.  The OWPVP in this looks at the least interesting and could hold my interest for quite some time if it all works as advertised.

If some1 has a link for no housing and deco, I would appreaciate a look-see.

Here's an interesting video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8luBc0X3vIg

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