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  hikaru77

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Posts: 983

12/07/12 6:18:33 AM#101
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Purutzil
Originally posted by Greyhooff

 

Except for this of course, taken last night

 

Some people are starting to sound like EQ players when WoW came out.

Time to face it, GW2 is doing very well.

Yeah... provide the text saying "Full' on a value that can be set to anything you want really shows the game is doing 'well'. I doubt its failing horribly but when you put pictures up showing a game is doing good showing population listed by text that can be determined anyway the game design wants, you show you have no clue at all about what your talking about.

 

Heck, my game right now is full. I'd list at full right now. I'm only playing a single player game but heck I consider 1 player to be full so thats what it will be!

 

No, I doubt GW2 is going through a mass extinction but no, posting stupid picture like that as 'proof' it isn't is just as stupid.

Interesting.. If I ever create a MMO, I'll set my server lists all to "full" by default without giving any numbers.

People seem to believe a lot when it's presented in list form ;)

Full server in GW2 mean nothing, my server is full 24/7, but you can find less than 10 players in the myst and just 4 or 5 Spvp games running. 

It's pretty easy to catch a lie..spvp is shared across all servers. There is always, except for when they reset the servers, way more than 4 or 5 games running.

 

[mod edit]

Truth is, GW2 sPVP is a game of skill and strategy, and there is plenty of both, more than in any other MMO.

It's just that a lot of MMO players are stuck in the outdated, simple and easy to execute CCchain->burst mentality that makes WoW PVP a joke of constant class balance changes favouring whatever FOTM cc+burst comp works best that month.

Is not a conspiracy, you can just try it for yourself, go and log now, at this time in the morning you´ll will find servers ¨full¨ but in-game you will find just a few players around and Spvp games running. And the problem with the spvp is about how easy and casual it is, you dont need skill or strategy all you need to do is ninja capture points or kill NPCs, and im not even talking about balance, atm is the worst Spvp MMO in the market.  

  Greyhooff

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Joined: 10/08/08
Posts: 684

 
OP  12/07/12 6:23:33 AM#102
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Purutzil
Originally posted by Greyhooff

 

Except for this of course, taken last night

 

Some people are starting to sound like EQ players when WoW came out.

Time to face it, GW2 is doing very well.

 

Is not a conspiracy, you can just try it for yourself, go and log now, at this time in the morning you´ll will find servers ¨full¨ but in-game you will find just a few players around and Spvp games running. And the problem with the spvp is about how easy and casual it is, you dont need skill or strategy all you need to do is ninja capture points or kill NPCs, and im not even talking about balance, atm is the worst Spvp MMO in the market.  

 

I just did that, right now, 2 mins after your post

...and you are a liar, Hikaru77.

Lion's Arch is in overflow, people are spamming for groups and there's too many sPVP games running to count. I am now in a queue for WvW in EB.

The server is obviously full.

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16773

12/07/12 6:25:15 AM#103
Originally posted by hikaru77

Is not a conspiracy, you can just try it for yourself, go and log now, at this time in the morning you´ll will find servers ¨full¨ but in-game you will find just a few players around and Spvp games running. And the problem with the spvp is about how easy and casual it is, you dont need skill or strategy all you need to do is ninja capture points or kill NPCs, and im not even talking about balance, atm is the worst Spvp MMO in the market.  

Nah, that game is "WAR".

But you are partly right, they really need some different types of maps (and as I said before: Guild Vs guild).

You still need a sense of strategy to ninja points though, a good oponent will slaughter a bad team trying that.

  Loke666

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Joined: 10/29/07
Posts: 16773

12/07/12 6:28:17 AM#104
Originally posted by Freezzo
Originally posted by Loke666

If GW2 want to become the big E-sport they need to add more maps (with some other options to win, like capture the flag and so on) and more importantly, guild Vs guild PvP.

Right now in current shape I dont see the game becomming the next big E-sport.

And I actually play GW2s PvP, while it is fun I miss the guild Vs guild battles from the first game, they were loads of fun.

Tbh I think Anet should look at some maps in SWTOR and RIFT. Their PvP is not all that good (standard MMO PvP stuff), but their map design is quite cool and they have a lot of variety. SWTOR Hutball and Voidstar give really cool mechanics with a bigger strategy than just node control.

Yeah, I could live with some similar permanent maps like that. The halloween PvP maps were pretty fun so ANET knows how to make different fun PvP maps already.

Fortunatley is adding stuff like this actually pretty easy unlike fixing TORs PvP.

  hikaru77

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 983

12/07/12 6:42:10 AM#105
Originally posted by Freezzo
Originally posted by Loke666

If GW2 want to become the big E-sport they need to add more maps (with some other options to win, like capture the flag and so on) and more importantly, guild Vs guild PvP.

Right now in current shape I dont see the game becomming the next big E-sport.

And I actually play GW2s PvP, while it is fun I miss the guild Vs guild battles from the first game, they were loads of fun.

Tbh I think Anet should look at some maps in SWTOR and RIFT. Their PvP is not all that good (standard MMO PvP stuff), but their map design is quite cool and they have a lot of variety. SWTOR Hutball and Voidstar give really cool mechanics with a bigger strategy than just node control.

People QQ alot about the Spvp in swtor, but to be honest, is pretty good, i mean is not about who kill more is about what team play better, wihout strategy or teamplay not matter how good ur gear is, you lose. Im a GW1 Veteran, even a War veteran but so far GW2 spvp is a casual joke, maybe it will be better in the future but now, is not.   

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/07/12 6:46:31 AM#106
Rift and swtor - lol come on now, two of the worst mmos going for pvp.

As for gw2, no it won't be the Esports of 2013. Not with dota2, lol, csgo, starcraft 2, company of heroes 2 etc..
  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

12/07/12 6:48:59 AM#107
Arenanet should be looking at gw1 for its spvp and planetside 2 for its WvW ideas.

You know actual pc games, rather than pve raid grinders with tacked on afterthought pvp like rift, wow & swtor.
  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7328

12/07/12 7:11:48 AM#108
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by hikaru77
 

Is not a conspiracy, you can just try it for yourself, go and log now, at this time in the morning you´ll will find servers ¨full¨ but in-game you will find just a few players around and Spvp games running. And the problem with the spvp is about how easy and casual it is, you dont need skill or strategy all you need to do is ninja capture points or kill NPCs, and im not even talking about balance, atm is the worst Spvp MMO in the market.  

 

I just did that, right now, 2 mins after your post

...and you are a liar, Hikaru77.

Lion's Arch is in overflow, people are spamming for groups and there's too many sPVP games running to count. I am now in a queue for WvW in EB.

The server is obviously full.

There are 8 people in the mist. 

15 Spvp matches - Used to be 60 in the am

No queue for EB WvW - Used to be 2 hour plus queues just about all day

No overflow for Lions Arc.

 

Not cool calling him a liar, when you seem to be.. Not telling the whole truth. I cann SS if need be. Jade Quarry.

 

 

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  grimal

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Joined: 9/11/05
Posts: 2532

12/07/12 7:28:18 AM#109
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by Kuppa
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Purutzil
Originally posted by Greyhooff

 

Except for this of course, taken last night

 

Some people are starting to sound like EQ players when WoW came out.

Time to face it, GW2 is doing very well.

 

Is not a conspiracy, you can just try it for yourself, go and log now, at this time in the morning you´ll will find servers ¨full¨ but in-game you will find just a few players around and Spvp games running. And the problem with the spvp is about how easy and casual it is, you dont need skill or strategy all you need to do is ninja capture points or kill NPCs, and im not even talking about balance, atm is the worst Spvp MMO in the market.  

 

I just did that, right now, 2 mins after your post

...and you are a liar, Hikaru77.

Lion's Arch is in overflow, people are spamming for groups and there's too many sPVP games running to count. I am now in a queue for WvW in EB.

The server is obviously full.

I think you need to adjust your signature text.  It should read "GW2 All Servers are Full" or "GW2 Big Esport of 2013"

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  Freezzo

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Joined: 3/28/12
Posts: 234

12/07/12 7:30:27 AM#110
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Rift and swtor - lol come on now, two of the worst mmos going for pvp.

As for gw2, no it won't be the Esports of 2013. Not with dota2, lol, csgo, starcraft 2, company of heroes 2 etc..

Try reading what other people type for a change, it might enlighten your world. I said their MAP DESIGN was good, not the PvP. You need tactics to win and if you play smarter than an outgeared opponent (which happens the case in those games), you can still win.

Also it's not about becoming the biggest, but a viable e-sport.

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
And for MMORPGs ever so true...

  Fusion

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12/07/12 7:41:20 AM#111
No.

Currently playing: -

Waiting for: Class4.

Dead and Buried: ESO, NWO, GW2, SWTOR, Darkfall, AO, AC2, Vanguard, CoH/V, EnB, EVE, Neocron, FE, EQ, EQ2, DAoC, FFXI, FFXIV, SWG, WoW, and billions of eastern junks!

  User Deleted
12/07/12 7:43:38 AM#112
Originally posted by Freezzo
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Rift and swtor - lol come on now, two of the worst mmos going for pvp.

As for gw2, no it won't be the Esports of 2013. Not with dota2, lol, csgo, starcraft 2, company of heroes 2 etc..

Try reading what other people type for a change, it might enlighten your world. I said their MAP DESIGN was good, not the PvP. You need tactics to win and if you play smarter than an outgeared opponent (which happens the case in those games), you can still win.

Also it's not about becoming the biggest, but a viable e-sport.

Rift battlegrounds are a joke. SWTOR did have some decent objective designs to give them credit. As much as everyone hated it, Huttball was a very solid design.

Some of the initial GW2 maps are a bit lackluster. Only the underwater one really stood out as having decent objectives. The new temple zone however is very well designed. I think they need to go back to the drawing board with a few of the other maps though.

Some alternate objectives would be nice too, like the Halloween PvP zones.  

  Greyhooff

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Joined: 10/08/08
Posts: 684

 
OP  12/07/12 7:44:35 AM#113
Originally posted by grimal
 

I think you need to adjust your signature text.  It should read "GW2 All Servers are Full" or "GW2 Big Esport of 2013"

 

I like my sig. I've had it for a long time. 

Fanboys of any game really bother me (all fanboys are also "haters", since they hate other games, it's all very tribal), SWTOR fanboys really had it in for me when I accurately predicted what would happen with that game. And with AOC, TSW and Tera, and a few others.

EAware was adamant that SWTOR still had huge subs, when it was obvious from playing that the game was dead.

I play GW2 and it is obviously a game with lots of players and full servers, and visibly healthy and growing, regardless of what the hater/fanboy posts keep trying to push.

What matters most to me is what's actually happening, regardless of developer hype and fanboy wishful thinking. And I do truly think that GW2 has what it takes on the e-sports side.

 

  bcbully

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Posts: 7328

12/07/12 7:46:47 AM#114

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  Greyhooff

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Joined: 10/08/08
Posts: 684

 
OP  12/07/12 7:50:41 AM#115
Originally posted by bcbully

 

Hey you're the guy saying WoW is an e-sport. It is not.

How about checking your facts with MLG, ESL or any e-sports community.

However, for GW2, here's the words of ESL, taken a few days ago, 29 November 2012:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/76323-esl-to-pick-up-gw2-and-guru-sotg-reminder/

ESL.eu's Admin Staff Member Peli recently posted on reddit that they are indeed thinking about picking up Guild Wars 2 to be a part of their e-sport leagues. This would mean a huge deal for Guild Wars 2 e-Sport scene and could possibly be the beginning of something great!

They want the community to give them feedback on this idea so be sure to drop by and let them know just how much we want this!

"I'm Peli from ESL.eu Admin Staff. 

We are thinking about opening a Guild Wars 2 section on ESL.eu. To make it happen, we need few things.

etc etc"

  killion81

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12/07/12 7:56:35 AM#116
Originally posted by bcbully

 

  bcbully

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12/07/12 8:03:41 AM#117
Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by bcbully

 

Hey you're the guy saying WoW is an e-sport. It is not.

How about checking your facts with MLG, ESL or any e-sports community.

 

There you go again. Not telling the whole truth. WoW was with MLG for years. It was dropped in 2010. Blizzard still host paid tournaments, and it's still covered by just about all the esports sites. 

 

Do you really think GW2 will ever produce the same rich Esport history? Ehh doesn't matter. I don't have to be the one to rain on your parade. Carry on.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  ShakyMo

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12/07/12 8:05:07 AM#118
Blizzard are prominent in e sports through starcraft 1 & 2 and dota. Not wow.
  loulaki

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12/07/12 9:18:12 AM#119

well i dunno why everyone is so negative, yes there are a lot of issues around the Mists in general, nut if they keep all these pormises kinda accurate and fast, it has potentials to become an e-sport, at least the sPvP is pretty balanced, and the game play is pretty active and dynamic whatever the haters say, it lacks of support. f.e. the ladder system Starcraft has with seasons and ranks is awesome

but in order to work all these they have to fix the point mechanics were they are broken, its sad someone to gain more points out of tournaments free or paid ...

 

anyway but this hate about broken gameplay and PvE focus its out of the blue for me . pure mindless hatred speeches i enjoy its gameplay far beyond every MMO out there

  ShakyMo

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12/07/12 10:22:47 AM#120
It's not hate its just acknowledgement that other games do the pvp better.

Namely gw1 did the whole arena thing better

But also planetside 2 does the rvr thing better also.

Gw2 is still a strong all-rounder mmo
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