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12/04/12 5:53:50 AM#41
Originally posted by azzamasin
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12/04/12 5:56:13 AM#42
Originally posted by Draron Not for me, many like me have seen just how crooked of a setup a monthly fee actually is. Take Blizzard for example. They keep doing things to their game to get more kids involved because they use the profits for this game for other things. That's right, none of the money actually poors back into WoW, it goes into D3, SC, Titan and the pockets of the execs. |
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12/04/12 5:59:29 AM#43
Originally posted by itgrowls
Remember, this is how business works. Do you think that the profits on any product or service that you purchase are flipped right back into making said product or service better? The fact that work is being done on an MMORPG as seen through patches shows that some amount of revenue that would otherwise be profit is being spent on the game. However, if it was expected that all profit be flipped back into making the game better, an MMORPG would be one of the worst investments one could make. |
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12/04/12 6:00:21 AM#44
Originally posted by itgrowls
How is this any different than every other company in the world? Profits are used as the company sees fit. R&D is almost always funded by profits from existing products. I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil |
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12/04/12 6:04:01 AM#45
lantern and killion beat me to it.
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12/04/12 6:53:58 AM#46
Originally posted by MikeJezZ May I question you on the highlighted part? If you had never looked back, why would you be posting here? Just curious... |
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12/04/12 8:04:32 AM#47
Since I stopped playing GW2..I'm not playing anything.
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azzamasin
Hard Core Member
Joined: 6/06/12
We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality. |
12/04/12 12:30:17 PM#48
Originally posted by The_Korrigan 100 bucks he either hasnt played it, or quit way before 80. Troll post or dumb post, take your pick.
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12/04/12 1:46:51 PM#49
Just because you do not play a game anymore, you can still look at the forums.
I'm hoping some day, some refreshing arrives to GW2 that makes me want to play it again.
I still read WoW forums, because I had so many great times in World of Warcraft. But I do not play it anymore.
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Hey dumb troll, you owe me 100 bucks.
Playing ATM: Diablo III KICKSTARTED: Camelot Unchained. (250 USD) |
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12/04/12 1:53:21 PM#50
For me the answer would be... "it's complicated".. :) A little background... I'm in Venezuela, which means that because of some stupid currency exchange control laws, the government doesn't allow us to spend more than $400 a year online, if I were to try spend more than that, the credit card is automatically rejected (google CADIVI if you want more information)... and I just spent the last $30 of that allowance on some toys for my toddler, the rest of it went to computer parts to upgrade my PC, GW2 and TSW + a couple months of sub. So, the first thing that picked my interest about GW2 was the lack of a monthly fee, but the more I read about it the more I started to think it was going to be a great game for me, and now a few months after release, I still think so. Thing is, if it had a sub fee, it might not have picked up my interest in the first place and might not be playing it. Assuming it had a sub fee and I had picked it: If I had still money left from my allowance (which could be possible, if I planned on getting a sub game, I might have not spent the money for the sub from it), I'd definitively still be playing GW2. I don't have that much gaming time these days, and my highest character is level 73 with a couple others in the 30's and 40's, so still lots to do and lots of places to go to, and still having a blast, specially considering that there are whole aspects of the game (like WvW) that I loved in the betas and haven't done too much after release. If I was in the same situation I'm now, no money left, and GW2 had a sub, well, of course I wouldn't be playing it. I'd probably be trying out SWTOR or Vanguard to see how much fun and how far I could go without paying anything, or maybe RaiderZ or Aion (or a bit of all of them). What can men do against such reckless hate? |
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12/04/12 1:57:10 PM#51
I'm not playing the game :)
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12/04/12 1:59:44 PM#52
IMO there is not a single mmo worth playing now or in the near future and if GW2 keeps it up with the bugs and nurfing drops and ways of making money I will just quit mmos all together
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12/04/12 1:59:59 PM#53
GW2 IS free, and I STILL don't play it and prefer to pay a monthly fee for WoW. GW2 wasn't bad for 3 weeks or so, and while other games in the genre currently aren't much better, they still feel like they have more going for them currently that actually drives me to play.
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12/04/12 2:10:52 PM#54
I can't honestly answer if I'd be playing GW2 or not. The thing is... if they designed GW2 with a subscription in mind it would be a different game most likely. You'd have the treadmills and grinds required to hook people into being willing to continue paying so they can crawl towards that next highly necessary tier of power. By keeping the subs out of it, they've avoided the unending power treadmill and with it the fear of falling behind.
Who knows... maybe they'd have come up with some incredible way of doing that, we can't say. But they didn't, and as a result produced the only MMO I play right now and into the foreseeable future. |
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12/04/12 2:16:31 PM#55
Originally posted by Aviggin
See above... they've hooked you on to the power treadmill, making you feel like you must keep playing (and paying) to keep up. WoW is horrendous for that... the next tier completely obsoletes the prior and will act as a barrier to raids etc. until you grind your way up to everyone else. What I like with GW2 is the freedom to do what I want, not what I need to do. No gear score to get me kicked from a raid, no meters judging my ability to stand there and go through the same rotation ad nauseum... if WoW is what you like, I hope you continue to have a blast there. But I did that for long enough, right up until just before Cata launched. The thought of having to toss my gear due to absolute obsoletion... enough was enough. I walked away, did Eve for a bit, even some Wizard 101 with the kids, and waited on GW2. |
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12/04/12 2:17:37 PM#56
Originally posted by 3-4thElf
Just got my nine year old son a sub for that, he's having a blast. Pirates and Wizard are both great games for what they are, I agree. |
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12/04/12 6:02:48 PM#57
I dont understand the question. The game was not free, we paid for it. Besides that, most players would pay for a good game so why should someone play this game just because it is free. Free gaming should not be an arguement when it comes to judge the quality and content of a game. |
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12/04/12 6:06:23 PM#58
Originally posted by The_Korrigan Dude, totally. I could never play one of those quest hub games again. They are just so old school. DEs are like where it's at, bud. I'll definitely be playing this game and ONLY THIS GAME for the rest of my life. GW2 TO THE END BRO!!! Release a game with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting a momentious self perpetuating playerbase people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and their friends and everyone else plays anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality... but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing as it is quality, if not more so. - Derros |
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kadepsyson
Hard Core Member
Joined: 5/15/06
The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that. |
12/04/12 6:12:12 PM#59
Originally posted by azzamasin Or I like to expand my interests and horizons by trying new things. I might not normally eat a certain kind of food, or see a genre of movie, or play a style of game, or read a certain author's book, but I have found that sometimes you can discover you do enjoy something new. If you only stick to doing the same things you enjoy and never try anything else, you could be missing out. And perhaps the movie is my style, but I didn't enjoy this particular one. Did you consider that? I'd say you should try and keep an open mind, but that would require you trying something new :P El Psy Congroo |
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12/04/12 9:19:46 PM#60
Now: Skyrim |
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