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  Torvaldr

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11/26/12 11:46:52 PM#61
Originally posted by Impulse47
White knights, assemble!

Logic would dictate that none of you have ever pirated a game... Otherwise, do you know what that would make you?

I have NEVER pirated a game.  I don't pirate software, music or movies.  I pay for them all or I don't use them.

Getting a refund is perfectly fine because it's a business deal offered by the publisher, but that doesn't mean I have to respect it.

Curse you AquaScum!

  User Deleted
11/27/12 2:02:51 AM#62
Originally posted by VendettaDFA

 I pre-purchased for the head start as a loyal GW1 fan would have done and averaged 5-7 hours daily. I think that is more than adequate to make an informed decision on this game. I think you tldr'd the post but as said you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

So you played GW2 since pre-purchase, and only now, 3 months later, you ask for a refund, supposedly got it, and create an account here specially to tell us?

Sorry if I smell something fishy, aka "posting to create negative reactions", if you see what I mean.

Anyway even if it's true, you got 3 months out of a game, you self admitedly played 5+ hours per day, and then you ask a refund... you, sir, are no better than those who pirate games. Actually, you may even be worse.

  Djildjamesh

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11/27/12 2:11:39 AM#63
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by VendettaDFA

Originally posted by loeslein
I think GW2 is a mediorce game but next time just say "Your economy sucks and I don't like gear progression." and leave it at that. They'll get the point a lot better.

 

And I think it's hilarious Anet is giving refunds for people who have prob played days and days worth of game time lol.



I pre-purchased for the head start as a loyal GW1 fan would have done and averaged 5-7 hours daily. I think that is more than adequate to make an informed decision on this game. I think you tldr'd the post but as said you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

What a load of crap! You are a thief. I hope you sleep well at night. Do you butcher the cow you received instead of the horse, throw a feast, and then ask for a refund? You make me sick.

 

This +1

 

Prob someone who asks for refunds in the cinema coz the movie sucked  ...

  Sleepyfish

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Posts: 363

11/27/12 3:24:33 AM#64

What is really funny to me is the roid rage some of you people are getting because other people DARED get a refund after getting screwed over with gear grind. Not to mention the crappy pvp.

I mean whats the real  issue here? I sense sour grapes because the gear grind progression community got what they wanted and it backfired.

  Calerxes

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11/27/12 3:32:24 AM#65
Originally posted by Djildjamesh
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by VendettaDFA

Originally posted by loeslein
I think GW2 is a mediorce game but next time just say "Your economy sucks and I don't like gear progression." and leave it at that. They'll get the point a lot better.

 

And I think it's hilarious Anet is giving refunds for people who have prob played days and days worth of game time lol.



I pre-purchased for the head start as a loyal GW1 fan would have done and averaged 5-7 hours daily. I think that is more than adequate to make an informed decision on this game. I think you tldr'd the post but as said you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

What a load of crap! You are a thief. I hope you sleep well at night. Do you butcher the cow you received instead of the horse, throw a feast, and then ask for a refund? You make me sick.

 

This +1

 

Prob someone who asks for refunds in the cinema coz the movie sucked  ...

 

I guarantee if there was a big sign outside the movie theatre that said "if you are not satisfied with any of the films or conditions of our premises we will give you a refund" many of the posters in this thread would be first in the queue. He executed his rights as a customer of Arenanet because he perceived broken promises, he neither stole or freeloaded, he like the game upto the point of the Ascended/fractals patch.

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  Sleepyfish

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11/27/12 3:37:47 AM#66
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by Djildjamesh
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by VendettaDFA

Originally posted by loeslein
I think GW2 is a mediorce game but next time just say "Your economy sucks and I don't like gear progression." and leave it at that. They'll get the point a lot better.

 

And I think it's hilarious Anet is giving refunds for people who have prob played days and days worth of game time lol.



I pre-purchased for the head start as a loyal GW1 fan would have done and averaged 5-7 hours daily. I think that is more than adequate to make an informed decision on this game. I think you tldr'd the post but as said you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

What a load of crap! You are a thief. I hope you sleep well at night. Do you butcher the cow you received instead of the horse, throw a feast, and then ask for a refund? You make me sick.

 

This +1

 

Prob someone who asks for refunds in the cinema coz the movie sucked  ...

 

I guarantee if there was a big sign outside the movie theatre that said "if you are not satisfied with any of the films or conditions of our premises we will give you a refund" many of the posters in this thread would be first in the queue. He executed his rights as a customer of Arenanet because he perceived broken promises, he neither stole or freeloaded, he like the game upto the point of the Ascended/fractals patch.

Damn right, you would be a fool not to try and get your money back from Batman Forever.

Or any of the Star Wars Prequels for that matter, sure there is a dedicated group of people who actually love and will violently defend those movies, but those peopel hate themselves and enjoy emotional pain.

.

  charlizd

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11/27/12 3:45:14 AM#67

Tbh i think this is sad, it is great that they honoured your refund but nobody forced you to buy the game, i would have personally said sorry bucko, no 1 held a gun to your head and told you to buy it suck it up, i mean seriously it is a one off payment and you could have just returned when you felt they got things more to your liking, i honestly hope they scrap every bit of your account so if/when you do return you have to start from scratch.  It is just like everyday life YOUR the one who makes the decisions on what you are gonna do, are you now gonna go and ask your Parents to refund your life because it is not Exactly as you wanted? to me this just sounds like a spoilt little rich kid who did not get what they wanted so they complained and complained untill they did.

I thin it sucks that people out there feel that everyone owes them something, seriously, if you make a wrond decision in life deal with it, learn from it, move on, but don't go whining and complaining to others to resolve an issue that was clearly your poor judgment to begin with.

 

  Banquetto

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Joined: 10/06/09
Posts: 1033

11/27/12 3:49:34 AM#68


Originally posted by VendettaDFA
Whatever helps you guys feel superior. I only play with trolls in game, not on forums. Happy hunting   


Not saying this to feel superior, but because it's my honest opinion.


I agree with pretty much everything you said in your original post / email to ArenaNet.


But I still think you're basically a thief for claiming a refund after playing for hundreds of hours. In my opinion, you have fraudulently obtained that money.

  Torgrim

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Joined: 12/15/05
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11/27/12 5:24:13 AM#69
Originally posted by Calerxes
Originally posted by Djildjamesh
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by VendettaDFA

Originally posted by loeslein
I think GW2 is a mediorce game but next time just say "Your economy sucks and I don't like gear progression." and leave it at that. They'll get the point a lot better.

 

And I think it's hilarious Anet is giving refunds for people who have prob played days and days worth of game time lol.



I pre-purchased for the head start as a loyal GW1 fan would have done and averaged 5-7 hours daily. I think that is more than adequate to make an informed decision on this game. I think you tldr'd the post but as said you are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.

What a load of crap! You are a thief. I hope you sleep well at night. Do you butcher the cow you received instead of the horse, throw a feast, and then ask for a refund? You make me sick.

 

This +1

 

Prob someone who asks for refunds in the cinema coz the movie sucked  ...

 

I guarantee if there was a big sign outside the movie theatre that said "if you are not satisfied with any of the films or conditions of our premises we will give you a refund" many of the posters in this thread would be first in the queue. He executed his rights as a customer of Arenanet because he perceived broken promises, he neither stole or freeloaded, he like the game upto the point of the Ascended/fractals patch.

 

Your logic is flawed.

 

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  User Deleted
11/27/12 5:33:27 AM#70
Originally posted by Banquetto

But I still think you're basically a thief for claiming a refund after playing for hundreds of hours. In my opinion, you have fraudulently obtained that money.

Exactly, and that's why the analogy with the movie theater is nonsense.

A more accurate comparison would be "we refund tickets if you go out of the movie theater before the end of the first hour of the two hour movie". Then yes, the person obviously disliked the movie, and the refund could be "honest". But someone who watched a complete movie and then would ask for such a refund, just like someone who played a video game 5+ hours a day for 3 months, is not honest.

Would the same person have come and said "I bought the game two weeks ago, played quite a bit, but the game just doesn't grab me so I asked for a refund", I would have said "fair enough". But a person who plays 3+ months and then asks for a refund is nothing less than what has already been said several times in this thread, so I won't repeat it. Honesty is even more important when it's not forced on you.

  timtrack

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11/27/12 6:04:51 AM#71
See you next week with a fresh copy :)
  killion81

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11/27/12 6:14:40 AM#72
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Banquetto

But I still think you're basically a thief for claiming a refund after playing for hundreds of hours. In my opinion, you have fraudulently obtained that money.

Exactly, and that's why the analogy with the movie theater is nonsense.

A more accurate comparison would be "we refund tickets if you go out of the movie theater before the end of the first hour of the two hour movie". Then yes, the person obviously disliked the movie, and the refund could be "honest". But someone who watched a complete movie and then would ask for such a refund, just like someone who played a video game 5+ hours a day for 3 months, is not honest.

Would the same person have come and said "I bought the game two weeks ago, played quite a bit, but the game just doesn't grab me so I asked for a refund", I would have said "fair enough". But a person who plays 3+ months and then asks for a refund is nothing less than what has already been said several times in this thread, so I won't repeat it. Honesty is even more important when it's not forced on you.

 

In a subscription game, he probably would have just cancelled his sub.  It's a bit harder to show a company you're unhappy with your wallet when it's buy to play.  They really have little incentive to listen to you once you've given them your money.

  Z3R01

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MMO gamer since 1997

11/27/12 6:16:41 AM#73

Jesus...

Only MMO players do this crazy stuff.

You really need to get over it, MMOs are not special you dont need to write out a report when you stop playing a video game.

You think when someone uninstalls Deus EX HR they write up a novella to the developer?

 

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  HeroEvermore

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11/27/12 6:20:34 AM#74

Yeah i can't stand games with a worldwide economy. Makes it no fun for auction farmers and doesnt hold a true supply and demand on the server. Everything will just have to much of it or to little of it and never find a correct balance for the individual server. I once owned about 40% of Castle Lightwolf auction house on EQOA for the ps2. I spent 6 months of my gametime on dial up and it was about all i could do. Silly yes, but i loved my friends on the game and didn't want to play anything else. No one can achieve such feats with a world system.

 

I have not logged into GW2 for 2 weeks now.

I think it has the best PvE leveling experience ever made in mmorpgs. (except it has no class mastery type system for max levels to still gain strength.)

That said, I am now waiting for the next big thang. 600 hours on my warrior was enough for me to call it good. I met some great peeps though myself and we will have a ventrilo and keep in touch and play other games together while we wait for something to steal our breath away.

I'd like to think blade and soul will be my next glory game but i know it wil just be another 2 month binge as it also has this horrible worldwide auction house.

Hero Evermore
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Playing Path of Exile and deeply in love with it.

  sanshi44

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11/27/12 6:22:01 AM#75
Originally posted by atuerstar

After hundreds of hours played you demanded a refund?

 

In all honesty - i am deeply disgusted at your attitude.

I have to agree here. If you played like 50 hours or so then fair enough but after that you got your money worth move on. I give props to Anet who was kind enough to give you a refund when you didnt deserve it since you alrerady gotten your money worth with your hundred of hours of gameplay.

  wowfan1996

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11/27/12 7:29:32 AM#76

Asking for a refund is probably going too far but fanboys must realize the Lost Shores update was a sign of things to come and a huge disappointment for everyone who expected linear progression and invested their time into grinding for multiple gear sets.

And the whole you-will-not-be-missed attitude is self defeating. Nobody is ever personally missed in any game but games still die when enough people get fed up and quit.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  wowfan1996

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11/27/12 7:35:26 AM#77
Originally posted by HeroEvermore

Yeah i can't stand games with a worldwide economy. Makes it no fun for auction farmers

Fun is subjective but if it's gold you're after, there's no problem with extracting gold from GW2 TP. 100-150 gold a week if you play casually.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  Muntz

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11/27/12 8:49:57 AM#78
Originally posted by killion81
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Banquetto

But I still think you're basically a thief for claiming a refund after playing for hundreds of hours. In my opinion, you have fraudulently obtained that money.

Exactly, and that's why the analogy with the movie theater is nonsense.

A more accurate comparison would be "we refund tickets if you go out of the movie theater before the end of the first hour of the two hour movie". Then yes, the person obviously disliked the movie, and the refund could be "honest". But someone who watched a complete movie and then would ask for such a refund, just like someone who played a video game 5+ hours a day for 3 months, is not honest.

Would the same person have come and said "I bought the game two weeks ago, played quite a bit, but the game just doesn't grab me so I asked for a refund", I would have said "fair enough". But a person who plays 3+ months and then asks for a refund is nothing less than what has already been said several times in this thread, so I won't repeat it. Honesty is even more important when it's not forced on you.

 

In a subscription game, he probably would have just cancelled his sub.  It's a bit harder to show a company you're unhappy with your wallet when it's buy to play.  They really have little incentive to listen to you once you've given them your money.

Not really, although I don't know their exact business plan I doubt it calls for a lot of one time customers. They want to sell expansions which requires loyal customers. Feedback, for any reasonable company, is listened to. Most businesses rely on repeat customers this is no different. 

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11/27/12 10:29:26 AM#79

Applauding anet for offering refunds while simultaneously bashing people who partake in said service. Seeing a lot of that in this thread. Sad. Berating people for taking anet up on their own refund policy. Then turning around and saying how great anet is for even offering a refund on their product.

  botrytis

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11/27/12 10:34:32 AM#80

If you look at the other forums on getting refunds, people usually went to NCSoft not to A.Net. A.Net said that after the game starts there would be no refunds  for pre-orders (read the game FAQ). So, we have this thread, from the OP,  writing this laborous email to A.Net or NCSoft and my thinking is - do they actually care? I read 3 sentences and fell asleep because the letter was so sanctimonious and full of self-righteousness it was sad. A.Net made decisions that you didn't like - I get that - my thought is, 'GET OVER YOUORSELF! The world doesn't revolve around you.' His letter makes it seem like he thinks he is the center of the universe [mod edit]

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