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  Isawa

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11/25/12 5:13:50 PM#21
Originally posted by Damzilla

I have that sword too ! ( Ebonblade). The coolest greatsword in my opinion. Also, i agree that lower lvl models can get boring, but there are plenty of skins at higher levels.

This discussion got me curious to how many models of greatswords there actually are, found this http://dulfy.net/2012/11/07/gw2-greatsword-skin-gallery/ Minus the small count of models, 8 that I just purchased in the auction house (bronze and mithril change colors only of standard greatsword skin) pretty much everything is RARE or EXOTIC. So that is about 10 items to 50 or so focused at end game :)

  grimal

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11/25/12 5:35:21 PM#22
Originally posted by Eluldor
Originally posted by Damzilla

I have that sword too ! ( Ebonblade). The coolest greatsword in my opinion. Also, i agree that lower lvl models can get boring, but there are plenty of skins at higher levels.

This discussion got me curious to how many models of greatswords there actually are, found this http://dulfy.net/2012/11/07/gw2-greatsword-skin-gallery/ Minus the small count of models, 8 that I just purchased in the auction house (bronze and mithril change colors only of standard greatsword skin) pretty much everything is RARE or EXOTIC. So that is about 10 items to 50 or so focused at end game :)

Which is absurd for this game since it was advertised that endgame starts at level 1.

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  MosesZD

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11/25/12 6:55:32 PM#23
Originally posted by Corehaven

Has anyone noticed the lack of weapon models in this game?  Really, its almost as bad  with the armor too.  Yet especially with weapons there seems to be an amazing lack of different models.  

  

 

 

 

Actually what I've noticed is that people who don't bother to learn what's available and how to get them have this issue.    There are 16 skins sets from drops which include some of the 15 racial skins but many that aren't.   There are 8 rare and exotic skins from crafting.   There are 8 dungeon sets.   There are 4 sets from organizations (Pact, Vigil, etc.).     There are 6 other skin sets (mystic, pirate, etc.)

 

That's 41 sets (at a minimum) without over-lap.     I think there are 47 unique armor sets.  But that's off the top of my head without double-checking against the wiki.

 

 

  eyelolled

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11/25/12 6:56:56 PM#24
I am hoping that they will continue the same method they used with GW1, and introduce a whole new selection of armors/ weapon skins/ character models  with each expansion pack.  I hope.

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  MosesZD

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11/25/12 6:57:33 PM#25
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Eluldor
Originally posted by Damzilla

I have that sword too ! ( Ebonblade). The coolest greatsword in my opinion. Also, i agree that lower lvl models can get boring, but there are plenty of skins at higher levels.

This discussion got me curious to how many models of greatswords there actually are, found this http://dulfy.net/2012/11/07/gw2-greatsword-skin-gallery/ Minus the small count of models, 8 that I just purchased in the auction house (bronze and mithril change colors only of standard greatsword skin) pretty much everything is RARE or EXOTIC. So that is about 10 items to 50 or so focused at end game :)

Which is absurd for this game since it was advertised that endgame starts at level 1.

 

No, you know what's absurd?   People who can't be bothered to find out what's what or be bothered to use the transmutation stones ANet gives you for nothing to make what they want from the 41 skins (at a minimum) available...

  Loktofeit

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11/25/12 7:01:38 PM#26
Originally posted by Corehaven

Has anyone noticed the lack of weapon models in this game?  Really, its almost as bad  with the armor too.  Yet especially with weapons there seems to be an amazing lack of different models. 

 

I've noticed the exact opposite. I regularly stop at vendors to see what new gun and bow skins I can get because I've found there's a lot more that aren't in the regular crafting and loot drop system.

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  MosesZD

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11/25/12 7:08:07 PM#27
Originally posted by Corehaven
 

 

Instead most players are just using maybe 3 or 4 all the way to 80.   And you know it.  Thats a problem.  Is it game breaking?  Hardly.  Is it kind of puzzling and strange?  Absolutely.

 

You actually have to work your tail off to use 3 or 4 skins all the way to 80.    Which is one of the many reasons I find your complaining on this issue to be phony.

 

There are 15 racial skins that are in the weapon drops.   Fifteen.   Plus there are additional skins for rare and exotics that drop beyond those 15.    And, of course, there are all kinds of skins available for purchase using relatively small amounts of karma.

 

And yet you're saying there are only 3 or 4 all the way to 80...    I think the real issue is you just want to complain and blame others for your lack of exploring the game's possibilities.   

 

 

  grimal

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11/25/12 7:14:29 PM#28
Originally posted by MosesZD
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Eluldor
Originally posted by Damzilla

I have that sword too ! ( Ebonblade). The coolest greatsword in my opinion. Also, i agree that lower lvl models can get boring, but there are plenty of skins at higher levels.

This discussion got me curious to how many models of greatswords there actually are, found this http://dulfy.net/2012/11/07/gw2-greatsword-skin-gallery/ Minus the small count of models, 8 that I just purchased in the auction house (bronze and mithril change colors only of standard greatsword skin) pretty much everything is RARE or EXOTIC. So that is about 10 items to 50 or so focused at end game :)

Which is absurd for this game since it was advertised that endgame starts at level 1.

 

No, you know what's absurd?   People who can't be bothered to find out what's what or be bothered to use the transmutation stones ANet gives you for nothing to make what they want from the 41 skins (at a minimum) available...

I've used the transmutation stones but I have not on either my 80 warrior, 65 ele, or various other alts seen any more than a handful of skins.

 

 

 

 

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  grimal

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11/25/12 7:20:36 PM#29
Originally posted by MosesZD
Originally posted by Corehaven
 

 

Instead most players are just using maybe 3 or 4 all the way to 80.   And you know it.  Thats a problem.  Is it game breaking?  Hardly.  Is it kind of puzzling and strange?  Absolutely.

 

You actually have to work your tail off to use 3 or 4 skins all the way to 80.    Which is one of the many reasons I find your complaining on this issue to be phony.

 

There are 15 racial skins that are in the weapon drops.   Fifteen.   Plus there are additional skins for rare and exotics that drop beyond those 15.    And, of course, there are all kinds of skins available for purchase using relatively small amounts of karma.

 

And yet you're saying there are only 3 or 4 all the way to 80...    I think the real issue is you just want to complain and blame others for your lack of exploring the game's possibilities.   

 

 

Maybe you are playing a different game than I?

I have two high level toons (80, 65) and I have only seen a handful. There are many others hear voicing the same thing.  So you are obviously having an extremely different experience than us (which isn't good because ANET should have ironed this out) or there is some questionable statements made by you.

Please stop telling me what I have experienced for the last 2 or so months.  I think I know it a bit better than you.

Edit:  People whom go out of their way to make GW2 something more than it actually is put a real sour taste in my mouth.  Here I was about to launch it, and now I can't be bothered because of GW2 whiteknighting.

 

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  grimal

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11/25/12 7:31:11 PM#30
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Corehaven

Has anyone noticed the lack of weapon models in this game?  Really, its almost as bad  with the armor too.  Yet especially with weapons there seems to be an amazing lack of different models. 

 

I've noticed the exact opposite. I regularly stop at vendors to see what new gun and bow skins I can get because I've found there's a lot more that aren't in the regular crafting and loot drop system.

The karma vendors or???

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  Ramonski7

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11/25/12 8:11:11 PM#31

Actually this has bugged me quite a bit as well. In GW2 armor and weapons are intended to flesh out your character and define him/her as they partake on their journey. Hell they even GIVE you a heirloom like item at the begining of the character creation to define your avatar (I chose the helm). Then you're released into the world and start to find out that the variety of customization is top heavy because it starts at level 80. And they even go as far as letting you know such by offering you transmute stones, as achievement rewards, that are only good up to level 79. Nothing wrong with that I guess but I was hoping to discover unique pieces of armor or weapons from exploring, achieving things and on my journey that I could be proud of and keep if I so wished. Which has not been the case.

 

In WoW, for example there were unique weapons and helms that you received from killing rares, finishing long quest lines (think hunter's bow, priest's staff and paladin's 2-handed hammer) and they didn't require you in some cases to even be at max level. Moreso, when you leveled in WoW the armor and weapon skins changed damn near every 5 levels and rarely repeated. This is why so many players referred to WoW as having rainbow brite toons with all their mixmatched gear even though it all had around they same level requirements. If they had transmutions in WoW back then like they do now I would have worn that defias outfit all the way from 13 to 80.

 

I just wish I had those kinds of options in GW2. Sometimes I'd bump into npcs while doing 100% completions and they'd be rockin some cool looking gear that I will never have the option of getting. I find that kinda of a letdown for a game that boast how gear doesn't matter and tries to encourage players to strive to be different. Strive to be different is right, but only if you're level 80. By that time I'm ready to move on to something fresh.


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  Kaleston

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11/26/12 1:55:08 AM#32

Recently I found out many special (heart, success DE) vendors have really nice and very unique skins for sale. There are also qutie a few crafted weapons with unique skin.

It';s true with my first playthrough, my ranger probably used 1 longbow the whole time. But my mesmer already used 6 different skins (base, drop, story line, story line, heart vendor, craft) of staff. I think it's all about exploring really. Optionally if you ask people about cool skins, they might give you a hint where to find it.

  RizelStar

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11/26/12 2:09:31 AM#33
Originally posted by Eluldor
Originally posted by Damzilla

I have that sword too ! ( Ebonblade). The coolest greatsword in my opinion. Also, i agree that lower lvl models can get boring, but there are plenty of skins at higher levels.

This discussion got me curious to how many models of greatswords there actually are, found this http://dulfy.net/2012/11/07/gw2-greatsword-skin-gallery/ Minus the small count of models, 8 that I just purchased in the auction house (bronze and mithril change colors only of standard greatsword skin) pretty much everything is RARE or EXOTIC. So that is about 10 items to 50 or so focused at end game :)

Wow a lot of those I have never seen before O.O

 

Volcanus looks pretty sweet.

 

Add the fractal weapons as well!

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  Loktofeit

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11/26/12 3:47:31 AM#34
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Corehaven

Has anyone noticed the lack of weapon models in this game?  Really, its almost as bad  with the armor too.  Yet especially with weapons there seems to be an amazing lack of different models. 

 

I've noticed the exact opposite. I regularly stop at vendors to see what new gun and bow skins I can get because I've found there's a lot more that aren't in the regular crafting and loot drop system.

The karma vendors or???

Karma vendors and also some regular vendors. For example, there was a neat set of bows I picked up at some centaur fort that I hadn't seen anywhere else.

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  Caliburn101

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11/26/12 4:07:48 AM#35
Originally posted by Zeus.CM
To get nicer looking weapons (i.e. exotics and legendaries) you'll have to work harder then just regular leveling. There's dungeon weapons, rare exotics, karma weapons, cultural weapons... The nicer the skin the more expensive the weapon.

Many of the legendaries look like reject prototypes from a manga cartoon. I don't want to bother getting Bifrost because it looks like something out of a 'my little unicorn' movie,a dn don't get me started on Metoerlogicus....

Such a pity.

I don't think there is a lack of weapon variation however - there is enough - except in certain cases, like 2 handed swords...

But for crafted items and non-extic dungeon drops the 'variation' is not as good as it should be.

I also feel that weapons should to a limited extent by dye-able. I for instance want the TA weapons to go with my TA armour. But I have dyed the set with bronze and oxblood - so lurid purple looks ridiculous. So I don't have the them.

  Kaleston

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11/26/12 4:29:09 AM#36

so 58 skins seems like not enough to you?

I think this was deliberate choice on ANet side and I think it was good choice. Why put great skins on randomly dropped stuff? Let's say there is this cool skin on greatsword that only appears as rare 10-20 level drop. Is it better to grind those zones to get it or is it better to finish DE and buy it off vendor that spawns? Or finish a heart and buy it with karma? Or get it as personal story reward? People hate grind and RNG, but when it's not there, they complain it's not there :)

After obtaining cool looking skin, you can use transmutation stones to change look of your dull looking sword to your cool looking sword, so it does not matter if you get more dull skins from your drops.

  AzurePrower

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11/26/12 4:35:43 AM#37

Lack of weapon models? Try looking at the dungeon's vendor. There's a different exotic weapon skin for each dungeon.


If you're not talking about max level weapons... Then what do you expect?

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11/26/12 4:36:01 AM#38
Originally posted by Corehaven

My highest toon is a level 73 thief. 

This is your problem.

The various appearance stuff doesnt really unlock until level 80.

There are probably 5-10 models while leveling up, then another 20 when you hit 80. Each dungeon has one, karma stuff, racial and faction weapons, crafted stuff and of course legendary weapons. 

I agree that there could have been more variety while leveling up, but I think they wanted to leave it as end game reward.

 

Edit: Ohhh looked above, 58! Thats more than I thought. Pretty impressive visuals on most too.

  Master10K

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11/26/12 4:47:26 AM#39
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Corehaven

My highest toon is a level 73 thief. 

This is your problem.

The various appearance stuff doesnt really unlock until level 80.

There are probably 5-10 models while leveling up, then another 20 when you hit 80. Each dungeon has one, karma stuff, racial and faction weapons, crafted stuff and of course legendary weapons. 

I agree that there could have been more variety while leveling up, but I think they wanted to leave it as end game reward.

 

Edit: Ohhh looked above, 58! Thats more than I thought. Pretty impressive visuals on most too.

Yeah, if you check the PvP locker (in the Mist) you will see every skin in the game there. Which is where I go to check out what I need to make my character look the way I want. Though I don't think the new Fractal gear is shown in there.

  azzamasin

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11/26/12 4:58:11 AM#40
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If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

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