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  blognorg

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Joined: 2/25/11
Posts: 650

11/29/12 11:08:51 AM#41


Originally posted by dracomun

Originally posted by blognorg  

Originally posted by dracomun

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Mogus Zekiah,  that wasn't bashing her. If you tell me your cat has an ugly mole on it's face and I then repeat it, am I insulting your cat? Brash explained her past failures in another forum thread. I simply re-counted what she has said previously. lol this is getting silly. I've simply taken the information I've been presented with and formed a conclusion. Nothing more. As far as assets, here is an update that may interest some of you Look, as far as I'm concerned, Brash is neither here nor there. Wish you all the best.  
Regardless of what she has said in the past, you're using that against her as your defense. She has simply stated FACTS about your game and you turn around and use personal information to bash her. It's that simple, and sad. Developers need to be above those kinds of tactics in order to be successful. As far as the link goes, I see some blueprints. So what? For all we know, you purchased those online too. But I do agree, it's getting silly. Can't believe you even partake in these discussions, I'd be trying to code if I were you.
  I'm confused by you zekaih, While i wouldn't touch this game why wouldn't a devolper defend his game that someone ( Brash) is so set on destroying without even knowing much about it. In the end we are all people and when its something you invested your time and money into your going to have strong feelings over it when others blindly react negatively towards it.  From the few minutes i've read on the game it also appears as if Jason isn't a programmer himself he just leads the design on the game so him posting on forums to talk  to mmo players and defend his game makes sense. You honestly just come off as a very bitter person. 
    Why wouldn't you touch this game? I can understand not wanting to throw money at the Kickstarter, but it's just in its infancy, and it seems a little early to judge the final product. It's going to be free to play with no cash shop. You would lose nothing to try it out, yet you refuse to, even though it's barely in development. I'm not sure Zekaih is the bitter one here.
    Thats a very simple question to answer.  I don't support any free to play game with a subscription option. I'm just a believer in either a sub or a micro transaction. and before you ask what game I currently play to try and throw something in my face i currently don't play an mmo's.
 


I wasn't aware that it had a subscription option. As far as I know, there only the land purchasing and trading. Do you have a reference? Regardless, to claim you'll never touch a game based on one (alleged) feature without even trying it, let alone it not even being out yet, still sounds like bitterness to me. Isn't that what you criticized Brash for? Condemnation without enough information.

  JamesP

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Joined: 1/04/06
Posts: 312

11/29/12 11:43:53 AM#42

We wish nothing against Brash or any one else who is Negative against Greed Monger. We are a small indie team setting out to build our Dream MMO that we would want to play just as much as those in our Community would want to play. We hope one day we will be able to meet Brash, and all those who talked badly about us, in game! Brash and a few others have been following us around from Forum to Forum speaking badly about us for no apparant reason other then simply not liking what we are trying to do. Which is fine! Everyone has a right to free speech and can form whatever opinions they want of us. When it starts crossing the line is when their talking starts hurting our funding chances that we have been working our butts off to get over the last month.

 

Jason, My self, and the rest of the team have stayed up countless hours sometimes to 3 or 4 in the morning discussing aspects of the game and working on code and other things so we can get information out to you guys as quickly as possible. Before KickStarter even got underway I spent days at a time staying up all night and just getting a few hours of sleep in during the day just to get the stuff needed for KickStarter done. I can personally tell you guys that our KickStarter wasn't a rushed event where we bought all the assets and threw together a scene in a couple hours time like some would have you to believe.

Lead Programmer
Greed Monger
http://www.GreedMonger.com

  Fearum

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1089

11/29/12 11:55:05 AM#43
Sandbox players griefing indie companies that are trying to get out the gate. Nothing new about this, but your devouring your own genre here when its trying to expand. And people wonder why no major AAA companies are making these games, the fans are like cannabils.
  Deerhunter71

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Joined: 10/25/05
Posts: 548

11/29/12 12:38:18 PM#44
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by Mogus

Zekiah,

 that wasn't bashing her.

If you tell me your cat has an ugly mole on it's face and I then repeat it, am I insulting your cat?

Brash explained her past failures in another forum thread. I simply re-counted what she has said previously.

lol this is getting silly.

I've simply taken the information I've been presented with and formed a conclusion. Nothing more.

As far as assets, here is an update that may interest some of you

Look, as far as I'm concerned, Brash is neither here nor there. Wish you all the best.

 

As far as the link goes, I see some blueprints. So what? For all we know, you purchased those online too.

 

Sounds like someone else is the bitter one here....  Go find me another MMO out there where you can customize your blueprints and make your own floorplans for the house you want....

  nutsodds

Novice Member

Joined: 1/31/10
Posts: 90

11/29/12 2:43:08 PM#45

Ok This game looks quite limited

 

http://forum.unity3d.com/threads/104212-3dFoin-Professional-Dragon-Model/page2 Anyone can buy and use this stuff so how does that make them unique? lol

 

So that may be why they are going with such a low budget as they need very few funds to buy more stuff to put in game.
 http://u3d.as/content/dexsoft-games/wealthy-medieval-citizen/2Ez
 They're buying off of the unity website

 

Here is all their prefab housing. http://u3d.as/content/dexsoft-games/medieval-slum-construction-kit/1CN That's why you will place it than build it.

 

Weapons !!! lol http://u3d.as/content/bsr/ancient-weapons-pack/1u1 10 bucks

  nkitz

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Joined: 1/27/12
Posts: 79

11/29/12 3:23:55 PM#46
Originally posted by Deerhunter71
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by Mogus

Zekiah,

 that wasn't bashing her.

If you tell me your cat has an ugly mole on it's face and I then repeat it, am I insulting your cat?

Brash explained her past failures in another forum thread. I simply re-counted what she has said previously.

lol this is getting silly.

I've simply taken the information I've been presented with and formed a conclusion. Nothing more.

As far as assets, here is an update that may interest some of you

Look, as far as I'm concerned, Brash is neither here nor there. Wish you all the best.

 

As far as the link goes, I see some blueprints. So what? For all we know, you purchased those online too.

 

Sounds like someone else is the bitter one here....  Go find me another MMO out there where you can customize your blueprints and make your own floorplans for the house you want....

Xsyon :)

 

The prefab stuff, wow. You guys are going to get ripped a new one for using prefab stuff and to beat all you don't list anything about redoing/overhauling it with funds from kickstarter. So nothing unique to your game, just models that anyone can buy and use for the unity engine. Do you have plans to do your own models for the game or just rely on finding and buying models that work in the unity engine?

  Arglebargle

Elite Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 1073

11/29/12 4:33:19 PM#47
No great enthusiast here, but ripping on the game for using premade assets is foolish.  It's one of the main ways that a smaller independant project can move forward easily.  Not recreating the wheel and all.   If the game play and design is good, advanced art assets can wait.

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  Arglebargle

Elite Member

Joined: 6/13/07
Posts: 1073

11/29/12 4:36:29 PM#48
Originally posted by Mogus

The name has grown on many a fans of the game and will remain as it was concieved.

 

IE, started out with a poor name, and am now stuck with it, as changing names is also a bad idea.

 

But that can't be admitted to, as that's a bad idea as well.

 

Hope you learned from it, and work on getting your ducks in a row better in the future.

If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  dracomun

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/28/04
Posts: 80

11/29/12 6:23:19 PM#49
Originally posted by blognorg

 


Originally posted by dracomun

Originally posted by blognorg  

Originally posted by dracomun

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Mogus Zekiah,  that wasn't bashing her. If you tell me your cat has an ugly mole on it's face and I then repeat it, am I insulting your cat? Brash explained her past failures in another forum thread. I simply re-counted what she has said previously. lol this is getting silly. I've simply taken the information I've been presented with and formed a conclusion. Nothing more. As far as assets, here is an update that may interest some of you Look, as far as I'm concerned, Brash is neither here nor there. Wish you all the best.  
Regardless of what she has said in the past, you're using that against her as your defense. She has simply stated FACTS about your game and you turn around and use personal information to bash her. It's that simple, and sad. Developers need to be above those kinds of tactics in order to be successful. As far as the link goes, I see some blueprints. So what? For all we know, you purchased those online too. But I do agree, it's getting silly. Can't believe you even partake in these discussions, I'd be trying to code if I were you.
  I'm confused by you zekaih, While i wouldn't touch this game why wouldn't a devolper defend his game that someone ( Brash) is so set on destroying without even knowing much about it. In the end we are all people and when its something you invested your time and money into your going to have strong feelings over it when others blindly react negatively towards it.  From the few minutes i've read on the game it also appears as if Jason isn't a programmer himself he just leads the design on the game so him posting on forums to talk  to mmo players and defend his game makes sense. You honestly just come off as a very bitter person. 
    Why wouldn't you touch this game? I can understand not wanting to throw money at the Kickstarter, but it's just in its infancy, and it seems a little early to judge the final product. It's going to be free to play with no cash shop. You would lose nothing to try it out, yet you refuse to, even though it's barely in development. I'm not sure Zekaih is the bitter one here.
    Thats a very simple question to answer.  I don't support any free to play game with a subscription option. I'm just a believer in either a sub or a micro transaction. and before you ask what game I currently play to try and throw something in my face i currently don't play an mmo's.
 

 


I wasn't aware that it had a subscription option. As far as I know, there only the land purchasing and trading. Do you have a reference? Regardless, to claim you'll never touch a game based on one (alleged) feature without even trying it, let alone it not even being out yet, still sounds like bitterness to me. Isn't that what you criticized Brash for? Condemnation without enough information.

Since your obv to lazy to do any research yourself its very apparent you are a troll. Who calls a Sub fee + micro transactions a "feature". Here is a quote from JAson on subs and ill link it also but i copied the quote so u didn't have to do any actual research yourself. 

 

 

 Jason M. Appleton (F&AM)

Once you've sold your Kickstarter plots you would not be able to to purchase more beyond the post launch parcel limit. There is no limit currently to help Kickstarter backers have a higher chance of a return on their investment but its kind of a one time deal. There will be an optional subscription you can join at launch to increase your parcel limit.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/appleton/greed-monger-a-crafting-focused-sandbox-mmorpg/comments

 

Theres also a post on the Offical Forums about ideas for the subscription. The only thing concrete is there will be an additional subscription offered to players if they desire that will include extras. These always lead to imbalanced gaming for the f2p crowd and I can only speak for myself but ruin the overall exp of the game. 

 

  Zeke_greene

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Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 2

11/29/12 6:27:39 PM#50
An interesting thought, didn't Wurm, the game who's forums Brash posted all that in, just buy some premade assets for their game recently? I may be remembering wrong, but...
  dracomun

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/28/04
Posts: 80

11/29/12 7:49:55 PM#51
Originally posted by Zeke_greene
An interesting thought, didn't Wurm, the game who's forums Brash posted all that in, just buy some premade assets for their game recently? I may be remembering wrong, but...

 

 

Thats a bit different imo, Wurm is an established game that isnt running a kickstarter to raise money for a game in devolpment. I have no problem with what Brash posted i think it is a good thing overall. More info is never bad. Just don't be upset when the person who spent time and money on the project you bash defends there project.

  blognorg

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Joined: 2/25/11
Posts: 650

11/30/12 2:36:22 AM#52


Originally posted by dracomun

Originally posted by blognorg  

Originally posted by dracomun

Originally posted by blognorg  

Originally posted by dracomun

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by Mogus Zekiah,  that wasn't bashing her. If you tell me your cat has an ugly mole on it's face and I then repeat it, am I insulting your cat? Brash explained her past failures in another forum thread. I simply re-counted what she has said previously. lol this is getting silly. I've simply taken the information I've been presented with and formed a conclusion. Nothing more. As far as assets, here is an update that may interest some of you Look, as far as I'm concerned, Brash is neither here nor there. Wish you all the best.  
Regardless of what she has said in the past, you're using that against her as your defense. She has simply stated FACTS about your game and you turn around and use personal information to bash her. It's that simple, and sad. Developers need to be above those kinds of tactics in order to be successful. As far as the link goes, I see some blueprints. So what? For all we know, you purchased those online too. But I do agree, it's getting silly. Can't believe you even partake in these discussions, I'd be trying to code if I were you.
  I'm confused by you zekaih, While i wouldn't touch this game why wouldn't a devolper defend his game that someone ( Brash) is so set on destroying without even knowing much about it. In the end we are all people and when its something you invested your time and money into your going to have strong feelings over it when others blindly react negatively towards it.  From the few minutes i've read on the game it also appears as if Jason isn't a programmer himself he just leads the design on the game so him posting on forums to talk  to mmo players and defend his game makes sense. You honestly just come off as a very bitter person. 
    Why wouldn't you touch this game? I can understand not wanting to throw money at the Kickstarter, but it's just in its infancy, and it seems a little early to judge the final product. It's going to be free to play with no cash shop. You would lose nothing to try it out, yet you refuse to, even though it's barely in development. I'm not sure Zekaih is the bitter one here.
    Thats a very simple question to answer.  I don't support any free to play game with a subscription option. I'm just a believer in either a sub or a micro transaction. and before you ask what game I currently play to try and throw something in my face i currently don't play an mmo's.
    I wasn't aware that it had a subscription option. As far as I know, there only the land purchasing and trading. Do you have a reference? Regardless, to claim you'll never touch a game based on one (alleged) feature without even trying it, let alone it not even being out yet, still sounds like bitterness to me. Isn't that what you criticized Brash for? Condemnation without enough information.
Since your obv to lazy to do any research yourself its very apparent you are a troll. Who calls a Sub fee + micro transactions a "feature". Here is a quote from JAson on subs and ill link it also but i copied the quote so u didn't have to do any actual research yourself.       Jason M. Appleton (F&AM) Once you've sold your Kickstarter plots you would not be able to to purchase more beyond the post launch parcel limit. There is no limit currently to help Kickstarter backers have a higher chance of a return on their investment but its kind of a one time deal. There will be an optional subscription you can join at launch to increase your parcel limit. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/appleton/greed-monger-a-crafting-focused-sandbox-mmorpg/comments   Theres also a post on the Offical Forums about ideas for the subscription. The only thing concrete is there will be an additional subscription offered to players if they desire that will include extras. These always lead to imbalanced gaming for the f2p crowd and I can only speak for myself but ruin the overall exp of the game.   
 


So, you're mad about an optional subscription fee that allows players to buy more land? And he says explicitly that there will be no microtransactions, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. My point still stands, though. The game isn't anywhere near release, and you've already decided that you're not even going to touch it. And the fact that you're sole reasoning is that it has an optional sub fee only enforces that you're bitter. It's like getting robbed by someone, then hating the ethnic group he belongs to... that's being bitter. Immediately resorting to ad hominem with the troll defense isn't helping your argument.

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