Trending Games | Trove | ArcheAge | Elder Scrolls Online | WildStar

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,871,127 Users Online:0
Games:744  Posts:6,254,292
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

PlanetSide 2

PlanetSide 2 

General Discussion  » Never saw so many players in any mmo!

17 posts found
  zomard100

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/16/11
Posts: 232

 
OP  11/23/12 10:51:50 AM#1
It is huge and amazing, tanks are rolling,  aircrafts are bombarding, troopers shooting from all sides. I never saw so many players fighting in one place, even in wow you can't find  so huge crowds. I was never really a fan of mmofps but this game is some nice mixture of everything. And what is most important people do play and don't stay around like in mmorpg's. Definitely game of the year.
  Yaoiman

Novice Member

Joined: 8/16/12
Posts: 55

We will always remember your sacrifice, Louisoux! RIP

11/23/12 10:55:10 AM#2
In WoW before Cata you could.

A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies, the man who never reads lives only one.

We will always remember your sacrifice, Louisoux!

  DavisFlight

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/25/12
Posts: 2587

11/23/12 11:04:33 AM#3
Originally posted by zomard100
It is huge and amazing, tanks are rolling,  aircrafts are bombarding, troopers shooting from all sides. I never saw so many players fighting in one place, even in wow you can't find  so huge crowds. I was never really a fan of mmofps but this game is some nice mixture of everything. And what is most important people do play and don't stay around like in mmorpg's. Definitely game of the year.

That's because ever since WoW, MMOs have been focusing on smaller and smaller scale...just about everything. WoW is jammed with instances and none of the game mechanics even allow this many people to gather. Most modern MMOs even instance their zones. AoC doesn't let more than 30 people in each zone.

This is why I nearly choke when people claim PS2 isn't an MMO. It's more an MMO than the last 8 years of WoW clones.

 

And no, WoW cata never got anywhere close to this many people.

  Corehaven

Novice Member

Joined: 7/27/11
Posts: 1574

I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you.

11/23/12 11:05:56 AM#4

Im all tramping around GW2 right now, but I'm kind of looking forward to trying PS2 having never played the first one.  All I expect is a large scale FPS and large conflicts over bases but that's okay.  I still look forward to it. 

 

Yet unlike many folks, I always wait a few months before getting an mmorpg.  I like those launch bugs and issues worked out (hopefully anyways).  So I'll probably dive into it some after GW2 begins to get a little stale on me. 

  Excession

Elite Member

Joined: 11/16/06
Posts: 362

Political correctness is tyranny with manners

11/23/12 11:09:26 AM#5
Originally posted by Yaoiman
In WoW before Cata you could.

Having played WoW, and been there for events like killing the alliance/horde leaders, and for the opening of AQ gates, I can honestly say, no, in WoW before cata you could not.

Get roughly 500 players in the same place and the server would throw a fit, abilities would not work, players could not move for the lag, and the server would eventually crash.

Getting 200 or so players fighting over Tarren Mill was borderline at best.

It really does not compare at all, to the amount of players that can be present, and still able to play normally,  in one place, in PS2.

A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  Abyssaldream

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/27/06
Posts: 4

11/23/12 11:23:59 AM#6

No real reason to wait to try it, it's completely free to try and play, although I'm finding it really easy to justify some of the micro transactions I've made. Just download and hop in. Beta tested it, and launch overall has been fairly smooth, queue issues notwithstanding at times (and the queue crash bug was a bit annoying) but overall, they've done a good job on creating an atmosphere that feels extremely large scale. 

There's nothing better than having a mass firefight in a tech base that lasts a good 45 minutes of give and take between two factions..hell even three sometimes. Going cover to cover peeking out and popping some rounds off. Definitely recommend this to anyone that enjoys MMO's and specifically shooters and MMO's both. Tight shooter with MMO persistence. 

That being said, at points and times with a middle of the road computer at this point (built it 5 years ago) with medium settings my fps drops enough to affect my gameplay in base battles. Have dropped the setting to low and still looks nearly as good and performance is much better. 

 

  SysFail

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/01/05
Posts: 377

11/23/12 11:52:40 AM#7
Welcome to the true definition of what MMO stands for, PS2 eats everything else calling itself an MMO.
  SQTO

Novice Member

Joined: 11/20/11
Posts: 165

11/23/12 4:44:27 PM#8

yes I love how massive this game is. 

It is sad how many recent mmos seem to be more made like single player games. 

  IMPYRE

Elite Member

Joined: 9/27/04
Posts: 2940

Yes, I have a question. When did you turn into a nutbar?

11/23/12 8:50:13 PM#9

 

It's pretty impressive, expecially all the battles across the continents.

I find myself logging in and out regularly and only can take the game is doses because I start to twitch after intense combat

I did throw $14.99 to PS2, I find it enjoyable, I hope it last.

  rojoArcueid

Elite Member

Joined: 8/13/09
Posts: 5631

"It is double pleasure to deceive the deceiver". - Niccolo Machiavelli

11/23/12 8:54:47 PM#10
the only thing i dont like from PS2 is the FPS perspective. If it was Third Person Shooter like Global Agenda i would love this game til death. GA was an incomplete game but the nice TPS perspective was what made me play it. 

My endgame begins with character creation and ends with a new mmorpg

  RizelStar

Novice Member

Joined: 8/12/11
Posts: 2823

We all breathe and we all die.

11/23/12 8:57:39 PM#11
It is a great MMOFPS.

I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.

I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.

P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)

Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.

  ShakyMo

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/21/11
Posts: 7246

11/23/12 9:20:13 PM#12
I've seen as many players around before, in eve, planetside 1 and daoc.

But yes it is awesome. I've ditched gw2 now, WvW was fun,but this is a whole another level.
  Rimmersman

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/15/12
Posts: 911

11/24/12 3:10:47 AM#13
Originally posted by ShakyMo
I've seen as many players around before, in eve, planetside 1 and daoc.

But yes it is awesome. I've ditched gw2 now, WvW was fun,but this is a whole another level.

 

This is what true PvP is like not that WvWvW you get in GW2, ArenaNet did WvWvW all wrong and so it really is pointless.

  spizz

Novice Member

Joined: 7/11/04
Posts: 2585

11/24/12 8:31:09 PM#14
Originally posted by zomard100
It is huge and amazing, tanks are rolling,  aircrafts are bombarding, troopers shooting from all sides. I never saw so many players fighting in one place, even in wow you can't find  so huge crowds. I was never really a fan of mmofps but this game is some nice mixture of everything. And what is most important people do play and don't stay around like in mmorpg's. Definitely game of the year.

Maybe you didnt know about such games and didnt play it ? ww2online/Battleground Europe was quiete massive with combined arms a couple of years ago with..tank columns with 50+ tanks, air squadrons and lots of people on the ground. And actually with a good game mechanic with a goal you fight for a purpose, not just running in circles from base to base like in PS....but its alright .

  darkhalf357x

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/25/12
Posts: 1109

I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

11/24/12 8:38:14 PM#15
So is this game like Battlefield 1942/3?   Where you just have massive amounts of people fighting each other?  Or does it have PVE qualities?  Just curious.

  DoomsDay01

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/14/08
Posts: 786

11/24/12 8:43:51 PM#16
Originally posted by darkhalf357x
So is this game like Battlefield 1942/3?   Where you just have massive amounts of people fighting each other?  Or does it have PVE qualities?  Just curious.

No PVE at all. Its all about taking control points and holding them. 100% pvp.

  rodingo

Elite Member

Joined: 1/18/07
Posts: 1775

11/25/12 8:11:19 PM#17
Originally posted by darkhalf357x
So is this game like Battlefield 1942/3?   Where you just have massive amounts of people fighting each other?  Or does it have PVE qualities?  Just curious.

Yeh the only "player versus environment" part you will find in the game is rolling your tank off of a cliff or crashing your reaver into the side of the mountain.  Though you do level up if you like that sort of thing.

"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor