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  Cod_Eye

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OP  11/23/12 8:35:02 AM#1

I was infractured for the post below and they swiftly deleted it.  This is what Anet has come to?  give an opinion whether I was correct in that opinion/thought doesnt really matter.  What really is annoying though is that they have threads on the first page that are probably a lot more provoking than what I created.  The Moderator note is even more laughable from my perspective.

 

 

 

 

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This is an automated message. Your post in Original team not running this game anymore?was infracted.

Your original post in Original team not running this game anymore?:

I sat down and had some real thinking about recent events both ingame and in the forums. The severe lack of communication from both Colin and Brian and the recent sale of shares to Nexon in NCsoft. Nobody from Arenanet seems interested to put to bed players fears about hot subjects in the forums.

Would you think I’d be right in thinking then that Guild wars 2 is no longer controlled by the same people who brought us this game? Have Colin and Brian and their team been given a new project to work on, and that the game is now under the influence of someone from Nexon or some other body that has their own ideas and what they want to do with this game?

No need for tin foil hats on this one, just a general feel I have about this game now, and feel its going to go in a different direction that I was sold on, well it already has imo.

 

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  madazz

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Joined: 10/07/03
Posts: 1312

11/23/12 8:37:54 AM#2
If that is the whole story, than that is pretty bad.
  fenistil

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Joined: 9/22/11
Posts: 3016

11/23/12 8:39:48 AM#3
I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.
  madazz

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Posts: 1312

11/23/12 8:41:38 AM#4
Originally posted by fenistil
I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.

This wasn't posted here. The mods here are actually pretty awesome and have a high tolerance rate.

  ThomasN7

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"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong.” - Mordin Solus

11/23/12 8:46:20 AM#5
It is called damage control. This just proves even more there is no accountability from developers. 
  Razperil

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Joined: 9/13/04
Posts: 307

Everything has it's time and its place, know yours?

11/23/12 8:55:47 AM#6

You broke their forum Code of Conduct, plain and simple. Opinions, etc, etc, etc, are all held accountable no matter if you think you did no wrong. These rules are in all forums so I suggest you read them again to make sure you do not receive another infracture.

P.S- Your opinion on your topic could have caused problems. You honestly do not know for sure if the original team is gone. You got what was due for doing it. Live with it like we all have when we get infractures, warnings,  and bans for having opinions as well. It's really good advice :)

  Cod_Eye

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Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 1021

 
OP  11/23/12 8:58:49 AM#7
Originally posted by Razperil

You broke their forum Code of Conduct, plain and simple. Opinions, etc, etc, etc, are all held accountable no matter if you think you did no wrong. These rules are in all forums so I suggest you read them again to make sure you do not receive another infracture.

P.S- Your opinion on your topic could have caused problems. You honestly do not know for sure if the original team is gone. You got what was due for doing it. Live with it like we all have when we get infractures, warnings,  and bans for having opinions as well. It's really good advice :)

Have you actually looked at the official forums and seen what threads are there and the opinions others have placed? those threads are still there, and I would say some of them are a lot more strong in opinions than what I put.

  jdnewell

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Joined: 7/04/06
Posts: 1876

11/23/12 9:01:47 AM#8

I bet if his "opinion" would have been along the lines of - Best Game ever- That would have been perfectly fine.

But since his " opinion' is a little negative with a genuine concern of probably many players. Well then thats a problem.

Hmmmmm........

  User Deleted
11/23/12 9:05:15 AM#9

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

  Alberel

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Joined: 12/02/09
Posts: 1121

11/23/12 9:13:23 AM#10

The ANet mods infract and delete any negative threads. They also merge threads like mad which makes it very difficult to hold proper discussions. I've noticed they've loosened their grip a bit in the last week but they're still some of the most agressive mods I've seen.

As for the OP's thread, yeah it was a genuine discussion topic, it was speculation and asking for opinions, there wasn't anything overly negative or agressive in it. At most it was critical and suggesting a possible explanation for the failures. There's no reason to delete a thread like that.

FYI I'm also of the opinion that Colin and Brian have either left or been moved somewhere. Jon Peters has also vanished since his dealings with the ranger community. The mod's tendency to shut down discussions rather than responding to them is actually fuelling the theory as well. The last few weeks have been a major PR disaster for ANet...

  botrytis

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Posts: 2542

11/23/12 9:14:18 AM#11
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

That was exactly what I was thinking. He was trying to guild the lilly and got caught.

 

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  botrytis

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11/23/12 9:17:23 AM#12

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Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

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  Alberel

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Joined: 12/02/09
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11/23/12 9:18:28 AM#13
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Roxtarr

Am I the only one who things that the OP's post was just a 'clever' way to say that "Nexon took over and the game sucks now?"

 

That was exactly what I was thinking. He was trying to guild the lilly and got caught.

 

If you read the GW2 official forums much you'd notice that his opinion is actually quite a widely held suspicion at this point. There are a lot of posts lately that make inferences to the same effect, the OP is just the first person to try and openly discuss it. It's a valid discussion topic in my opinion; if management of the team has changed then we deserve to know as it will change the direction of the game (as has already happened).

  Kyleran

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11/23/12 9:19:02 AM#14
Originally posted by biggarfoot

I was infractured for the post below and they swiftly deleted it.  This is what Anet has come to?  give an opinion whether I was correct in that opinion/thought doesnt really matter.  What really is annoying though is that they have threads on the first page that are probably a lot more provoking than what I created.  The Moderator note is even more laughable from my perspective.

 

Forum Moderator

 

This is an automated message. Your post in Original team not running this game anymore?was infracted.

Your original post in Original team not running this game anymore?:

I sat down and had some real thinking about recent events both ingame and in the forums. The severe lack of communication from both Colin and Brian and the recent sale of shares to Nexon in NCsoft. Nobody from Arenanet seems interested to put to bed players fears about hot subjects in the forums.

Would you think I’d be right in thinking then that Guild wars 2 is no longer controlled by the same people who brought us this game? Have Colin and Brian and their team been given a new project to work on, and that the game is now under the influence of someone from Nexon or some other body that has their own ideas and what they want to do with this game?

No need for tin foil hats on this one, just a general feel I have about this game now, and feel its going to go in a different direction that I was sold on, well it already has imo.

 

Moderator Notes:

 

Threads of this type are against our forum Code of Conduct. Please refrain from making such threads, as it does not assist members with support issues and concerns.

 

  • The topic was moved.

If you believe you have received this infraction in error or wish to make an appeal, please send an e-mail to forums@arena.net.

 

EDIT: To be clear this was from the official Guildwars 2 forum not from other fan sites or MMORPG.com.


Reading what the moderator posted it sounds like you created your post in the wrong section of the forums, perhaps under the Support section rather than the general game section and it would appear they didn't delete your thread, they moved it over to the proper category.

Edit: Did you follow their advice and send in an appeal of your moderation?

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  Axxar

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11/23/12 9:28:06 AM#15
Pretty sure I saw a Guild Wars 2 forum somewhere else on this site...

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  jinxxed0

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11/23/12 9:31:36 AM#16

The same thing happens here on this site. The moderaters get upset when you make a comment about games they like. It's a pretty goofy setup on forums. Forums aren't worth hiring decent people, let alone paying them. Moderators on forums are just people on power trips. I doubt anet directly would just delete your post.

 

Pretty sure I'll either get a warning or another ban for this post as well. I've said less worse things than this and it's happened. It just proves my point though.

  rdrakken

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11/23/12 9:34:26 AM#17

The topic has been done to death and I for one am glad they are finally deleting them.

Nexon is a great company, they have bought out MANY companies in the past and did not take creative control of the games from their makers yet...they are not EA. All Nexon is going to do is boost Anet with a ton of cash...you do know they are the second largest gaming company on the planet now right?

  strangiato2112

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11/23/12 9:38:02 AM#18
Originally posted by madazz
Originally posted by fenistil
I wonder what mmorpg.com mean by "such threads".  I am of opinion that they should be more specific.

This wasn't posted here. The mods here are actually pretty awesome and have a high tolerance rate.

high tolerance rate?  thanks, i needed a laugh this morning.

I got a ban because I told someone to 'stop lying' and posted proof as to the fact they were indeed lying.

  Vannor

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11/23/12 9:38:24 AM#19
Originally posted by botrytis

Read the YELLOW highlighted line - you called out staff and it got deleted and then banned. Plain and simple.

So that forum rule gives ANet to power to remove any post that even mentions the company or staff no matter what it's about, yeh that's much better. (psst, it's not really better, it's much worse; no more free speech).

If the OP did get that post deleted then it's bad. The post clearly shows they don't really know if the GW2 team is different for anyone that can actually read english. It was used as a way to exaggerate their point.. a way of saying 'this isn't the same game anymore'

Plus, the moderators notes don't even make any sense.. unless it was in the wrong section.

  Halandir

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Posts: 746

11/23/12 9:50:06 AM#20
Originally posted by Kyleran

Edit: Did you follow their advice and send in an appeal of your moderation?

Erm... If/when he does that he will discover a whole new level of red tape.

Basically if you appeal given the link to an email (that you get with your infraction) you recieve a return email 10 minutes later with a link to NCSoft's support system and not ArenaNets. Difference being ArenaNet seems to usually respond within 24 hours - NCSoft: Somewhere between a week and infinity!

How do I know? Well I am waiting for a response.

I had the audacity to respond with: What???

When someone said Thanks ArenaNet (Was in the title but I doubt he got an infration) and proceeded to explain that he realized that ArenaNet were the developers behind CoX.

It was a complete surprise to me and I responded: What???

And OFC I promptly recieved an infraction...

And YES: What??? is worthy of an infraction on GW2 Forums... Talk about sensitive!

(Hint: Hit the links for an image of SS or it did not happen)

We dont need casuals in our games!!! Errm... Well we DO need casuals to fund and populate our games - But the games should be all about "hardcore" because: We dont need casuals in our games!!!
(repeat ad infinitum)

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