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  Hancakes

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11/20/12 3:57:06 PM#61
Originally posted by nkitz

Ignore hancakes, he fails to understand a sandbox concept and what gameplay that brings. It's what you shape and mold it to be, no hand holding questfest here.

 

 

Funny ...I had no problem grasping the concept of games like Ultima Online, Shadowbane and Darkfall. I also dont remember any questing or handholding.

  Mirokata

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11/20/12 4:38:38 PM#62
Originally posted by Zekiah

I don't respect, nor ever will, gamers who throw good money after bad supporting these incompetent game developers who continue to string people along for years with a shiny, gold carrot.

It's bad for the industry. It's bad for gamers. Period.

This is really all there is to say. He's gone from stringing people along with "upcoming content" to stringing people along with "upcoming ability to produce content" with this incredibly naive Kickstarter idea (protip: Kickstarter probably won't accept his project).

 

 

 

  aRtFuLThinG

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11/20/12 7:05:24 PM#63

I think we need to give credit to where it is due - at least it ain't Mortals Online :P

 

To be quite honest between the 2 I would much rather play Xsyon - at least it ain't 100% broken, lol.

 

Only Mortals Online would I truly consider bad and failed. Sandbox like Xsyon or Darkfall 1.0 I would consider "trying" and sandbox like EVE Online I would consider a "success"

  Zekiah

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Hype (noun)
1. to trick; gull.
2. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
3. swindle, deception, or trick.

11/20/12 8:37:57 PM#64
Originally posted by Mirokata
Originally posted by Zekiah

I don't respect, nor ever will, gamers who throw good money after bad supporting these incompetent game developers who continue to string people along for years with a shiny, gold carrot.

It's bad for the industry. It's bad for gamers. Period.

This is really all there is to say. He's gone from stringing people along with "upcoming content" to stringing people along with "upcoming ability to produce content" with this incredibly naive Kickstarter idea (protip: Kickstarter probably won't accept his project).

 

 

 

If they do accept it, we'll know just how far gone the industry really is.

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  fatboy21007

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11/20/12 8:45:25 PM#65
Actually, Reading Mirokatas posting history, iLLmaculate  <--- did buy the game, However the most tribe was banned from the game, and since has held a grudge and continued to harrass it.  Tribes name was 420. The was banned before launch, Thus they dont know how the game is, they just hate it and continue to harrass it. i do not troll fourms, However i am sick of every thread made about xsyon any and all new folks that ask questions about it are given false answer's and  trolled. This is harrassment and will end. :-)
  Zekiah

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Joined: 1/06/07
Posts: 2533

Hype (noun)
1. to trick; gull.
2. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
3. swindle, deception, or trick.

11/20/12 8:49:12 PM#66
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Actually, Reading Mirokatas posting history, iLLmaculate  <--- did buy the game, However the most tribe was banned from the game, and since has held a grudge and continued to harrass it.  Tribes name was 420. The was banned before launch, Thus they dont know how the game is, they just hate it and continue to harrass it. i do not troll fourms, However i am sick of every thread made about xsyon any and all new folks that ask questions about it are given false answer's and  trolled. This is harrassment and will end. :-)

Ahh, the way you wrote that I thought you meant my account. No clue about his but I indeed did pay for that game, sad to say.

It really doesn't matter at this point anyway, Xsyon is well beyond the resurrection point. It's toast.

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  fatboy21007

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11/20/12 8:50:43 PM#67
There is a difference in sharing your opinion and harrasing all threads created related to xsyon.  Every post ive seen about xsyon, generally follows with a troll the tears it down.  Sure we all have different views where want the game to be, However harrassing every single thread about it, Yea thats beyond *expressing your views*.
  Zekiah

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Joined: 1/06/07
Posts: 2533

Hype (noun)
1. to trick; gull.
2. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
3. swindle, deception, or trick.

11/20/12 8:55:02 PM#68
Originally posted by fatboy21007
There is a difference in sharing your opinion and harrasing all threads created related to xsyon.  Every post ive seen about xsyon, generally follows with a troll the tears it down.  Sure we all have different views where want the game to be, However harrassing every single thread about it, Yea thats beyond *expressing your views*.

Hey listen man, I paid $39.99 so I have every right to voice my opinions about the game. Wanna know why these threads turn out like that? Because others like me feel we got jobbed... and we did. And now Jordi wants to "kickstart" a product that we already paid for?

That's a scam man, regardless of whether you can see it or not, it's a scam.

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  fatboy21007

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11/20/12 8:55:18 PM#69
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Actually, Reading Mirokatas posting history, iLLmaculate  <--- did buy the game, However the most tribe was banned from the game, and since has held a grudge and continued to harrass it.  Tribes name was 420. The was banned before launch, Thus they dont know how the game is, they just hate it and continue to harrass it. i do not troll fourms, However i am sick of every thread made about xsyon any and all new folks that ask questions about it are given false answer's and  trolled. This is harrassment and will end. :-)

Ahh, the way you wrote that I thought you meant my account. No clue about his but I indeed did pay for that game, sad to say.

It really doesn't matter at this point anyway, Xsyon is well beyond the resurrection point. It's toast.

its not beyond the ressurection point. Anygame can come back swining. Since launch alot of stuff has happend behind the scenes. Kickstarters whole point is to get a team together to get content to the game to try n repaidly get it where its suppose to be. Sure hes hired devs int he past, but things didnt work out the way they was suppose to. the game has a ton of potential, and i dont see jordi giving up anytime soon. Hell, not sure if you know of this game, Requiem this free to play game, was suppose to be dead 3 years ago, Yet its still alive and kicking and the content, you think xsyons major content patchs are slow,  it takes them 2 1/2 years to get out a new cap raise and a few mounts, Atleast with xsyon there has been a ton of changes since launch.

  Hancakes

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11/20/12 9:00:38 PM#70
Bottom line... Xsyon is still half a sandbox
  fatboy21007

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11/20/12 9:00:46 PM#71
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by fatboy21007
There is a difference in sharing your opinion and harrasing all threads created related to xsyon.  Every post ive seen about xsyon, generally follows with a troll the tears it down.  Sure we all have different views where want the game to be, However harrassing every single thread about it, Yea thats beyond *expressing your views*.

Hey listen man, I paid $39.99 so I have every right to voice my opinions about the game. Wanna know why these threads turn out like that? Because others like me feel we got jobbed... and we did. And now Jordi wants to "kickstart" a product that we already paid for?

That's a scam man, regardless of whether you can see it or not, it's a scam.

i can understand your frustations, However,  its not his fault the game is in its state, Not yours ethier. He has hired devs in the past, However they didnt do the job they was paid for. Costing him to get so far behind because he had to redo there work. Generally hes been solo trying to get the game where it needs to be, Most of this game since its creations has been funded out of his pocket.  Kickstarter is to give him enough money to get a new dev team cept this time a better one who actually does there JOB. im sure you know how it feels, when you go to work and you see a co worker slacking and in the end there tasks are all left on you, It really sucks 

  Zekiah

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Joined: 1/06/07
Posts: 2533

Hype (noun)
1. to trick; gull.
2. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
3. swindle, deception, or trick.

11/20/12 9:10:11 PM#72
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by fatboy21007
There is a difference in sharing your opinion and harrasing all threads created related to xsyon.  Every post ive seen about xsyon, generally follows with a troll the tears it down.  Sure we all have different views where want the game to be, However harrassing every single thread about it, Yea thats beyond *expressing your views*.

Hey listen man, I paid $39.99 so I have every right to voice my opinions about the game. Wanna know why these threads turn out like that? Because others like me feel we got jobbed... and we did. And now Jordi wants to "kickstart" a product that we already paid for?

That's a scam man, regardless of whether you can see it or not, it's a scam.

i can understand your frustations, However,  its not his fault the game is in its state, Not yours ethier. He has hired devs in the past, However they didnt do the job they was paid for. Costing him to get so far behind because he had to redo there work. Generally hes been solo trying to get the game where it needs to be, Most of this game since its creations has been funded out of his pocket.  Kickstarter is to give him enough money to get a new dev team cept this time a better one who actually does there JOB. im sure you know how it feels, when you go to work and you see a co worker slacking and in the end there tasks are all left on you, It really sucks 

When you hire someone, you are responsible for the job that person does or does not do. Just because he hired incompetent designers doesn't mean he's not responsible, it means he was incompetent in hiring competent people.

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  Hancakes

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11/20/12 9:15:24 PM#73
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by fatboy21007
There is a difference in sharing your opinion and harrasing all threads created related to xsyon.  Every post ive seen about xsyon, generally follows with a troll the tears it down.  Sure we all have different views where want the game to be, However harrassing every single thread about it, Yea thats beyond *expressing your views*.

Hey listen man, I paid $39.99 so I have every right to voice my opinions about the game. Wanna know why these threads turn out like that? Because others like me feel we got jobbed... and we did. And now Jordi wants to "kickstart" a product that we already paid for?

That's a scam man, regardless of whether you can see it or not, it's a scam.

i can understand your frustations, However,  its not his fault the game is in its state,

Give me a break!!! Its 100% his fault: from the crap code to having no vision.  Two years later: combat is still a desynced afterthought and the game is still a buliding sim.
  fatboy21007

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11/20/12 9:15:42 PM#74
you and i both know, someone could have the best resume ever, then ya hire them and then they dont do there jobs. It happens all the time everywhere.   Pretty often in mmos,  hell,  the shop my uncle works at, they hired this mechanic who was supposivly the best at wat he did,  They all bragged about him, after bout a month withem he got canned, he cost the company too much money and caused too many mistakes. These days people will lie ont here resumes to get a job, Cant really find out forsure if there telling the truth without a backround check and even then those cost money,  So its a really crappy boat to get tossed in
  remyburke

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11/20/12 9:15:48 PM#75

I'm going to keep playing themeparks casually until some of the upcoming sandbox releases hit the market.  The Repopulation, Greed Monger, Black Desert and ArcheAge all have me pretty excited.

Xsyon was a little too clunky for me, and I love WURM if that says anything.

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  fatboy21007

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11/20/12 9:17:08 PM#76
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by fatboy21007
There is a difference in sharing your opinion and harrasing all threads created related to xsyon.  Every post ive seen about xsyon, generally follows with a troll the tears it down.  Sure we all have different views where want the game to be, However harrassing every single thread about it, Yea thats beyond *expressing your views*.

Hey listen man, I paid $39.99 so I have every right to voice my opinions about the game. Wanna know why these threads turn out like that? Because others like me feel we got jobbed... and we did. And now Jordi wants to "kickstart" a product that we already paid for?

That's a scam man, regardless of whether you can see it or not, it's a scam.

i can understand your frustations, However,  its not his fault the game is in its state,

Give me a break!!! Its 100% his fault: from the crap code to having no vision.

So, do you know how to code? Obviously his vision is not one that you agree with, great, last time i check theres other sandboxs you can play, Let me guess there vision didnt agree with ya ethier, So mr, visionary, Wats your vision?

  Hancakes

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11/20/12 9:25:22 PM#77
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Originally posted by Hancakes
Originally posted by fatboy21007
Originally posted by Zekiah
Originally posted by fatboy21007
There is a difference in sharing your opinion and harrasing all threads created related to xsyon.  Every post ive seen about xsyon, generally follows with a troll the tears it down.  Sure we all have different views where want the game to be, However harrassing every single thread about it, Yea thats beyond *expressing your views*.

Hey listen man, I paid $39.99 so I have every right to voice my opinions about the game. Wanna know why these threads turn out like that? Because others like me feel we got jobbed... and we did. And now Jordi wants to "kickstart" a product that we already paid for?

That's a scam man, regardless of whether you can see it or not, it's a scam.

i can understand your frustations, However,  its not his fault the game is in its state,

Give me a break!!! Its 100% his fault: from the crap code to having no vision.

So, do you know how to code? Obviously his vision is not one that you agree with, great, last time i check theres other sandboxs you can play, Let me guess there vision didnt agree with ya ethier, So mr, visionary, Wats your vision?

So what is the ultimate vision? We've been in prelude for 2 years with little progress and it obviously isnt working.   (thus the trial and kickstarts) All games have their faults, but must "sandboxs"  keep peoples interest for longer than a few weeks.

 

 

Do I know how to code ? How cute....NO!  But I dont have to be a Doctor to know Im sick or be a Mechanic to know my cars broken.

  fatboy21007

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11/20/12 9:35:36 PM#78
so you dont want to work for stuff ingame. IE, dont want to level your skills up, Find the materials to build your homes, tools,gears,weapons, carts with. You rather have it easy mode where a few clicks you get it? i never played UO so i cant say anything about it. However, Considering the past 2 years, the combat system, Scavenge system, Graphics system, Tree system, Animal AI systems, Entire crafting System, Hell the entire game was re-written to fix the game, Not to mention the constant bug fixs, He is just finally now ready to start rolling out wat we all heard at launch, Also forgot to add Skill and stat decay in there, Then we got the crafting update coming, adds artisan and master recipes and female armors and finishs the Stat buffs you can customize armors with.  Then comes cooking and ranged.   Considering most of this has been done solo,   Thats pretty fast if ya ask me! ohh year, carts, zombies, mutant animals, all nifty adds, then all the new arch stuff that came in over the year, Tool decay. the game is literally 100% different then it was on launch  and continues to get more added. Reason for Kickstarter is simple,  Now that the game is ready to get wat u all wanted in, its to do it at a rapid rate, The stuff most of ya wanted was partially ready, just never added and well with that giant tally list there he did, wasnt time to do it.  So these are the facts, the game is only gonna progress from here, with or without those that dislike it for w/e reasons. Its not going anywhere anytime soon and looking back at the past, thats alot!. :-)
  Hancakes

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Joined: 2/06/11
Posts: 1106

11/20/12 9:49:37 PM#79
Originally posted by fatboy21007
so you dont want to work for stuff ingame. IE, dont want to level your skills up, Find the materials to build your homes, tools,gears,weapons, carts with. You rather have it easy mode where a few clicks you get it?

What are you talking about? We had more materials than we knew what to do with and maxed most skills. The biggest time sink was sorting all the crap.  Regardless of the "fixes" its still boring and combat is still a joke.

  nkitz

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Joined: 1/27/12
Posts: 79

11/20/12 9:51:22 PM#80
Well said fatboy.
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