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  Comaf

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Joined: 7/13/10
Posts: 1145

I want an mmorpg where pvp matters, my enemies are not my race or class, and community matters.

11/16/12 10:31:48 PM#41

The industry changed, we didn't. 

For me it was:

Dark Age of Camelot...44 races, 26 classes, 3 unique realms that are their own continent for 50 levels of exploring.  Us vs Them vs Them - the way pvp should be and just a darn good game.

 

This 5 race/class copy paste stuff you see today - just sickens me.  But what can you do?

 

 

  Greymantle4

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11/16/12 10:39:40 PM#42
Originally posted by Comaf

The industry changed, we didn't. 

For me it was:

Dark Age of Camelot...44 races, 26 classes, 3 unique realms that are their own continent for 50 levels of exploring.  Us vs Them vs Them - the way pvp should be and just a darn good game.

 

This 5 race/class copy paste stuff you see today - just sickens me.  But what can you do?

 

 

Its a shame I missed this game. When UO turned in to a chaotic open world gank fest and I joined EQ I was pretty burnt out on PVP.  So I never tried DAOC for I was deep in to the EQ world at that time.

Another I never even knew was around was AC by Turbine which I also wish I got to play. My next MMO after EQ was SWG and that is the last MMO I played that I really enjoyed and stuck it out for longer then a year. Well that is not true I did play Wow off and on longer then a year but it wasn't the same as those other games.

 

  Cecropia

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Poacher killer.

11/16/12 10:42:36 PM#43
Originally posted by Comaf

The industry changed, we didn't. 

For me it was:

Dark Age of Camelot...44 races, 26 classes, 3 unique realms that are their own continent for 50 levels of exploring.  Us vs Them vs Them - the way pvp should be and just a darn good game.

 

This 5 race/class copy paste stuff you see today - just sickens me.  But what can you do?

Your retrospect on DAoC makes me beyond angry that I took a leave of absence from gaming during that time. Did I ever pick the wrong period to take a long break from gaming to indulge in women and partying.

/slaps self on forehead. 

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  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

11/16/12 10:56:31 PM#44

EVERY developer is trying to sell us half ass efforts.

The few games that tried to go in depth and big ,struggled.FFXI took 5 years to recover the cost fo effort,Vanguard never recovered and never was actually finished to it's full potential.Lastly Curt Schilling tried to go massive and big but never finished his MMO project and is now bankrupt.

All these other games are one trick ponies that still lead to very superfical gaming,either pvp or dungeon crawling in raid form for loot.

BOTH the RPG and MMO aspects have disappeared.

There is one game yet to come that will deliver both the RPG and MMO apsects and that is Archeage.Even still the sheer cost and effort needed has left that game with some serious flaws that will hamper it's full potential.The good news is that Archeage will adapt well to a huge Korean market that might give ity lasting power,however with no Esport tag attached to it,it won't be the huge success this genre needs.Sadly i don't want MMORPG's to have any sort of pvp limitations,that is why i loved FFXI,it removed pvp for the sake of a better class design and PVE game.

There is no secret formula,to make a true grande game, it needs tons of cost ,manpower and skill and nobody is willing ot take on that risk.You are NOT going to make a great game based on anything under 100 million,no way in hell.Just the cost of manpower,marketing,publishing,game engine eat most of that up leaving little left for actual game design.

Smedley of SOE i beleive is onto a new marketing strategy.I beleive his idea is to not aim for a large audience but make something that can reel in some big spenders,people willing to spend more tha nnormal for extra perks inside of a cash shop game.Simple math really,instead of 2/3/4/5 million subs at 15 bucks,aim for 200k spenders spending 30/40/50+ a month on cash shop.

 

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  gothokaos

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Joined: 11/28/03
Posts: 141

You play a good game kid... but now you must DIE!

11/16/12 10:58:33 PM#45

Am I getting older? You bet!

Some of my children are adults now and I don't have the time to play that I used to.

I have a 5 yr old that is obsessed with Minecraft!

Am I burned out? Almost!

Most games are no different than Everquest.

I need some new style of playing games, possibly similar to the Kinect. The button mashing games are so Y2K!

 

 

  emperorwings

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Joined: 12/25/06
Posts: 1422

11/16/12 11:04:22 PM#46
There is a Minecraft 2 made by the exactly same guy and it has zelda like graphics and took 48h to make. Can't find the link.  Oh and KoD did predate M59 despite what wikipedia says. I think games aren't as good as they were back then as EQ1 still feels the same despite hte unpleasant updates that have happened ot it lately.

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  Sovrath

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11/16/12 11:14:12 PM#47

I think it depends on what your life is, what you liked for games when you were younger, what you want your life to be, what you like for games now.

Not everyone follows the route of family and a job that takes up more than 40 hours per week. Some people do have time for games.  Heck, I'm 45 and when I'm not working my time is "mine". However, if you aren't getting what you want out of the games and if you do have time for them, I wonder if it could just be the games  that are coming out now just don't grab. I still like and even prefer the older games. I just bougth planescape and it's excellent.

Even the new x-com is great and it reminds me of the first x-com.

I tend not to like the modern games. Oh the better graphics are nice but the game play doesn't really capture me. I find that I retreat to older games and my elderscrolls.

So, if one has time to play games then one should have good games to play. 

Or maybe games were just a part of one's life and you moved on.

The only person who can answer that is the person asking the question.

  xmenty

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Joined: 5/22/10
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11/16/12 11:18:34 PM#48

 

As for me, I just realised that I am not burnout at all.

I am just sick of the the lame AI of mobs, npc and the boss.

Just blame on the Dev that just don't want or cannot evolved the AI.

In one of these Q & A Dev videos of Monty ( Eve Dev ) comment that it is too hard and

cost a lot of money to make the game AI better, lol. 

So it seems for Dev not worth the hustle to improve the AI in gaming. 

MMOs gameplays are just always the same shit with different skins for every company.

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/montys-minute-show-page/ 

 

Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language :)

  Tokken

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11/16/12 11:19:11 PM#49

Are we old vets burned out or did we grow up?

It's the lack of innovation that effects me. I don't think I am growing out of the games, but nothing new ever comes out anymore. UO was new to me and will always be my favorite.

UO, EQ, DAoC, SWG, WOW, EQ2, CoH, CoX, VG, Aion, STO, CO, DCUO, LOTRO, Tera, SWTOR, GW2, DP, NW, TSW, MH, DDO, Rift, WS, ESO, Trove, LM

  AlBQuirky

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11/16/12 11:22:37 PM#50

Togrim, I believe it is a few factors, including age and a little bit of burn-out. I also believe that games are just not made like they used to be made. I blame the console gaming industry for that, where tapping massive button combos was the way to win.

I did enjoy Skyrim (new game) and have played it quite a bit. But I find that when I re-play many older games, I still find they are fun and exciting. I am currently re-playing BG I and II, SW:KotOR I and II, Dabbling in Master of Magic, and spending time playing old computerized board games like Venture, Rail Baron, Iron Dragon, San Juan and Puerto Rico, and Acquire. I find that the games of today are so action/combat oriented I just do not get into them. The old games with their 8, 16, 32, 64 bits of data had to rely on aspects other than combat for their games :)

Yes, age factors into the equation. Our lives change and sometimes what we used to find "fun" may no longer be for us. Burn-out also factors in, especially when it comes to MMOs. Never again will I be wide-eyed in awe as I try to figure what is what in a MMO. That being said, games of today are just focused on a different kind of gameplay than the games of old.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  ozmono

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Posts: 1081

11/16/12 11:39:18 PM#51
Originally posted by Icewhite

"Old vets" is a specious group to present, since (quite obviously) many of us rarely agree.

Want to talk about individuals?  Okay, but I'd need the mod's permission to express opinions on the topic.  I consider that extraordinarily unlikely.  As a result, this thread can't go anywhere good. 

There are perhaps a dozen individuals that I would consider hopeless cases; they clearly are not going to find a new game that pleases them, ever.  They just have impossible expectations, and they don't play well with others.

Another, oh, fifty or so habitual drama queens; they're not really miserable, they just like to fight amongst themselves.  Speak in absolutes, cry doom, complain incessantly, etc.

And a couple of hundred flat-out trolls.  Just want to get you (or me, or you over there) and push your buttons.  Most of them probably do not consider themselves trolls...or not often.  But read the carnage every weekend morning...

There, I've been candid.  The generally results in a few days off.  I'll just enjoy playing, instead.

Candid examination of our mmorpg.com local denizens, of course, can/will be bifurcated into "blame the customers".

Where do you class yourself in these groups of people or types of mmorpg.com local denizens as you call them?

The problem too often on these forums is that people are over confident in their analysis of everyone else. It's most probable that people could achieve much more if they focused their attention on describing their own opinions or better yet improving themselves rather than looking down their noses and labeling everyone else. There is a huge spectrum of beliefs and unimaginable variety of peoples and quite frankly belonging to one or a few of the groups that is quoted above is preferable to belong to the group I mention. Trust me I am a part of it.

  Yodi2007

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Joined: 6/30/12
Posts: 167

11/17/12 2:06:34 AM#52

I'm not burnout on gaming just sick and tired of the BS devs want to constantly push out the door! I mean how many times i gotta hear a dev say "We looked at WoW, and took what made it a huge success".. really!? I can tell you what made WoW what it is now it was some games called Warcraft 1,2,&3 those games built a base among fans with commited devs and not some Publishing suits. Heck I never played any of the Warcraft games until I played vanilla wow.

Games these days need to focus on getting the attention of  players the first few levels and keep the fun factor up throughout the entire game. Initial box sales mean nothing if people are burning through content in less than a month! 

Another thing i think has hurt MMO's is too much PvP that is centered around getting gear instead of around the fun factor! Why not have "Arena PvP" and "True War pvP". We all pretty much know what "Arena" pvp is , but what about war pvp meaning not some phasing or instanced crap, I mean if you fail to defend your country, base, or whatever you will lose it! 

I mean i could get into what I think Devs should be looking at but there is far too much to write about!

Below is where we can disscuss and come up with new ideas for Sandparks!

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5164689#5164689

  StonesDK

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11/17/12 2:33:01 AM#53
I still enjoy gaming, just not the same type of gaming I have been playing for nearly 14 years. Same way I don't really find arcade games I played when I was a kid fun anymore. I still find gems here and there I play extensively
  Torgrim

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OP  11/17/12 4:51:15 AM#54

Have been an interesting read, I'm glad that so many are on the same boat.

We can only hope for future games will give us that spark back we used to have.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Grimmx

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11/17/12 6:11:51 AM#55

From a pvp'ers perspective.

1. I dont have the time to be hardcore anymore.  To do that you have to play ALOT.  When i cant play that much i always end up at an disadvantage in FFA pvp environments. I loved it back when i was on the top of my game, but i love my kids and wife more ;)

2. Im a grown man. This makes it difficult for me to settle in a good guild, i havent found one in years. Not with the mature cool kind of people im looking for. Im a relic ;) I used to run or be officer in good guilds, but just dont have the time anymore.

3. No good pvp games anymore. I loved AC1 (Darktide), Shadowbane, DAoC. Games are good looking and dumbed down to the extreme.

(Right now ill try Darkfall. (eu)  solo and hopefully ill find a good guild.)

For me i just cant get the same satisfaction out of gaming anymore because i dont like doing things halfway. And i just dont have time to be at my best anymore. The same goes for PvE games. I like chasing carrots in games, be on top etc. Now i just dont have time for it anymore, and that in it self makes MMORPG's less fun for me personally.

 

Answer = I dont have enough time play and gaming industry has basicly dumbed down all games. Where is the challenge?

  monstermmo

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11/17/12 6:17:39 AM#56

Sounds burned out to me.

Did you end up playing only online games like i did? After i got sick and tired of the MMORPG system like WoW and Rift and such i thought i was getting sick of games altogether because i couldnt find anything i wanted to stick with even tho i found a lot that i enjoyed. But then i got back into single player games and im having a blast with them.  

Its changed things for me, i still like playing online but it actually gives me a big break from playing with a bunch of a**holes when i get into a single player one.

To me it sounds like you either need a break from games, or simply need to play some different kind of games.

 

Recently i've been enjoying the crap out of Kingdoms of Amalur. =)

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  SwampDragons

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11/17/12 6:18:29 AM#57

The games that come out this days are all the same, nothing new just the same old playstyle.

I still play the first mmo I started playing, I tried most of the other ones but they really are just the same game so no point changing.

I also belive that the people that make there voices heard the most when it comes to playerbase have no clue what they want and the DEV's listen waaaay to much to the community of players.

So causs of that the games just end up all the same for people that dont know what they want and it all tastes bland and boring.

  Talgen

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This is just my opinion and should be viewed as just that, an opinion

11/17/12 6:31:38 AM#58
Well I gotta say I'm impressed.  This is the first thread in a LOOONG time that has gotten to 2 pages without a single flame in it..  Wow.. Sorry to derail it, but it gives me some kind of hope. Kudos to you all.
  Kyleran

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11/17/12 6:37:23 AM#59
Originally posted by ozmono
Originally posted by Icewhite

"Old vets" is a specious group to present, since (quite obviously) many of us rarely agree.

Want to talk about individuals?  Okay, but I'd need the mod's permission to express opinions on the topic.  I consider that extraordinarily unlikely.  As a result, this thread can't go anywhere good. 

There are perhaps a dozen individuals that I would consider hopeless cases; they clearly are not going to find a new game that pleases them, ever.  They just have impossible expectations, and they don't play well with others.

Another, oh, fifty or so habitual drama queens; they're not really miserable, they just like to fight amongst themselves.  Speak in absolutes, cry doom, complain incessantly, etc.

And a couple of hundred flat-out trolls.  Just want to get you (or me, or you over there) and push your buttons.  Most of them probably do not consider themselves trolls...or not often.  But read the carnage every weekend morning...

There, I've been candid.  The generally results in a few days off.  I'll just enjoy playing, instead.

Candid examination of our mmorpg.com local denizens, of course, can/will be bifurcated into "blame the customers".

Where do you class yourself in these groups of people or types of mmorpg.com local denizens as you call them?

The problem too often on these forums is that people are over confident in their analysis of everyone else. It's most probable that people could achieve much more if they focused their attention on describing their own opinions or better yet improving themselves rather than looking down their noses and labeling everyone else. There is a huge spectrum of beliefs and unimaginable variety of peoples and quite frankly belonging to one or a few of the groups that is quoted above is preferable to belong to the group I mention. Trust me I am a part of it.

 

+1. Well said sir, as you noted, some folks fail to see themselves in the mirror. Me, I know what I like and largely it no longer exists, EVE not withstanding. But there's always hope on the horizon with every new title that one day someone will get it right again.

Arrogant, Condescending, Dismissive, Elitist, "Meany", you speak as if these are bad things?
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  Lonzo

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11/17/12 6:52:19 AM#60

I think it is all the game developers fault. I play computer games since the late 80ies, I am 34 years old and played all named RPGs  since Eye of the beholder, including all MMO variants (UO,EQ and so on ).

The Problem is the gamedevelopment. Everyone is crying out " we need new ideas bla bla" . No we Dont! If there was a new remake of the original EQ1 with good programming and grafics the magic would return. If there was a new well thought out Shadowbane, the magic would return. UO with all its features in new shiny clothes, the magic would return.

The developers these days just care about F2P models, XP boosts and casual players. Why??? Leave this field to Zynga and please take EA with you!

 

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