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11/16/12 4:41:15 AM#21
Meh, I'll be honest game was crap before, its still going to be crap now, also those f2p restrictions.. what the hell is the point? might as well just give a 7 day free trial and then let them sub from there, because that is far from what i'd call f2p. Maybe not charge them for the game client after the trial, just a normal sub fee. Even though I always though swtor blew chunks, I was going to try it if the f2p wasn't too bad, but yeah, with that many restrictions I am not even going to waste my time. Lots of other, better f2p titles out there anyway.
Also I think more mmo's should do what eve online does, with the plex thing, you buy it for rl cash then its sellable in game as an item, you can play without spending cash out of your pocket, but someone will still have to pay the 15 bucks for you to subscribe, it just is not your 15 bucks and you can buy the plex in game off other player. Its honestly a pretty genious system. Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either: A. Proven right (if something bad happens) or B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens) Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime! |
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11/16/12 4:42:17 AM#22
Originally posted by kabitoshin You can only revive in the field 5 times, I think. After that you can still revive but you are teleported back to the latest whatever binding points are called in SWTOR. <childish, provocative and highly speculative banner about your favorite game goes here> |
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11/16/12 4:50:02 AM#23
Funniest f2p setup I've seen yet.
Gotta love when a game is "free" and it's still not worth trying out. |
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11/16/12 4:56:13 AM#24
Originally posted by Siveria They already did even more than that, there was an unlimited lvl1 - lvl15 trial, without any restriction except the lvl15 (so you could make 8 character, sprint from lvl1, mail, trade, etc.) |
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11/16/12 5:01:29 AM#25
Hi, I tried "SW:TOR" on two separate occassions. Basically I hated it! I am a long time MMO player and just found the whole experience dull. Graphically it was very impressive but I am sure the reason many ofus here play MMO's is the feeling of community and socialising. Everywhere I went felt like a ghost town and it should have just been a single player game in the first pace imho. There is personal instance mechanics in "Guld wars 2" that are handled so much better. Having played Shadowbane, WOW, ROM, Everquest 2, Rift and LOTRO I feel Star wars : TOR was a real disaster. Thanks.
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11/16/12 5:01:53 AM#26
Why is it call a feature list when it is a restriction list?
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW? |
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11/16/12 5:03:31 AM#27
Originally posted by maji LOL
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Vesavius
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Joined: 3/08/04
Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this. |
11/16/12 5:04:12 AM#28
Originally posted by Aethaeryn
While I have no sympathy for dedicated freeloaders in this hobby in general (c'mon guys... it's an enjoyable hobby you spend a LOT of time in... cough up a little at least??), locking sprint of is as funny as hell. What were they thinking? |
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11/16/12 5:09:35 AM#29
Being able to play through the storyline 1-50 is like getting a great single-player RPG for free. Sure, you will be missing some nice-to-have features by getting it for free, but the point stands. If you want more of the game, and want to play the "MMO" version of the features, you have to pay. I'm not sure the MMO is worth it really, but the class storyline makes playing through at least once very much worth it.
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11/16/12 5:11:02 AM#30
Originally posted by Vesavius If you bothered to actually DO look you would have noticed , you can train skill (for ingame currency) at lvl 15, like the game originally was released.
Someone else complained about not being able to use mounts, again you can use mounts, they lowered the lvl requirement for subscription players, so effectively, free players can obtain the riding skill at the original lvls. |
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Talgen
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This is just my opinion and should be viewed as just that, an opinion |
11/16/12 5:14:21 AM#31
Yeah but if you have a problem, dont expect customer service to try and help you.. go read that FAQ and hope to god that there is an answer.. lol... so... 'you can play, but we dont care about you unless you give us money'
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Vesavius
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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this. |
11/16/12 5:15:20 AM#32
Originally posted by Panthien
You are missing the point, or maybe (probably) I wasn't clear on it. Showing this locked off, amongst other things, in this list is a PR disaster as far as this conversion goes. First thing most people will look at (because, lets be honest most will not read deeper and will just laugh at the list) is what will shape their decision whether to return or not. EA have given a terrible first impression to a whole load of people. Like I say... what were they thinking? |
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Vesavius
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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this. |
11/16/12 5:18:56 AM#33
Originally posted by Talgen
Well, in all fairness, why should they? You are not a customer yet after all. They are already allowing you into their shop and giving you a free sample... what more do you really want? Handjobs?
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11/16/12 5:20:53 AM#34
Originally posted by Talgen Other then being a tad less conveniant, you still get help, you can contact support with your problem. Again if you actually bothered to look you would have noticed Free players can use the knowlage database AND web costumer service. |
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Talgen
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This is just my opinion and should be viewed as just that, an opinion |
11/16/12 5:26:26 AM#35
Originally posted by Vesavius Wow, how....mature.... . .. .. . But (based on your scenario) don't ask what the free sample is right? Cause they gave us one, that's good enough. We don't have the right to know what it is or why it's a free sample, huh? |
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11/16/12 5:27:27 AM#36
Originally posted by Talgen It is indeed interesting to follow this,allways is,usually i hate it when games gets destroyed completely by free to play crowd but this time im going to enjoy it for some reason. When they have lets say 10,000 subscribers and 90,000 free to play players,well what can they do.
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Talgen
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Joined: 9/04/02
This is just my opinion and should be viewed as just that, an opinion |
11/16/12 5:27:46 AM#37
Originally posted by Panthien The web customer service support clearly says (FAQ's) not asking questions.. I read it.. did you? |
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11/16/12 5:27:47 AM#38
Originally posted by Vesavius Im definately not missing the point, people complain you cant use X or Y without paying RL money! Which quite frequently isnt true. The list shows everything but I agree its unclear because you have to mouse over the check boxes to get a small window to pop up to tell what the restriction actually is. And yes you are absolutely right the list IS a PR nightmare. people glance over the list and jump to conclutions. Having to mouse over check boxes makes things very unclear and user unfriendly. Using Sprint as excample they should have made it : feature : sub : pref : free Spring : lvl 1 : lvl 1 : lvl 15
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11/16/12 5:30:38 AM#39
Originally posted by Talgen Well yes, they arent Quest helper. But when you have an actual issue, like harrasment, missing items, broken quests etc etc, they can help. So yes I DID read. |
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11/16/12 5:30:59 AM#40
Originally posted by Talgen Just pay 15 bucks a month if you really want to play. I say this every time..F2P is just a gimmick and yet people complain everytime a F2P model is launched. I thought players would be more smart by now and realise that. No point complaining about this, because first of all it is EA and nothing is going to change.
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