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  nariusseldon

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11/13/12 5:23:46 PM#41
Originally posted by ShakyMo
 

i would call borderlands an online RPG along side diablo 3 AND modern wow / swotr / tsw etc.. once you've leveled in them and you playtime consists of instances or sitting in cities waiting to visit an instance.  Its a neat trick "mmo" devs have played, replace the lobby with a city and suckas will pay a monthly sub.

Yes, Borderland is an online RPG.

Again, what subs? Aside from WOW, fewer and fewer MMO have subs. TOR (the one you listed) is going to F2P. Most MMOs are going F2P. Even GW2 has no sub (although not F2P).

So what is the problem playing a free game (or a box game) with a city as a lobby?

  nariusseldon

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11/13/12 5:24:38 PM#42
Originally posted by ShakyMo

one that fullfills all the words in the acronym

most recent games dont really do the massive, multiplayer or role playing parts, once you hit endgame they are indistinguishable from other online games like CSGO or borderlands 2, instead of looking at a server list in a lobby you sit in a city and hit an auto queue or wait for your firends to come online.  Not much different.

Exactly. Thus, i treat MMOs like online ARPG. The only different between D3, BL2, and a MMO is the combat mechanics, and the look of the lobby.

 

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11/13/12 5:44:42 PM#43
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ForumPvP
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ForumPvP
Originally posted by mbd1968

 

So back to my original question, what is a Real MMO?

If that MMO can be transformed in to a paper and pen RPG,then its quite close.

Imagine random lft tools on paper and pen ,people who dont speak and tries to kill dungeon master and then farts.

UO is close but there is none ,mostly because MMORPG development stopped years ago.

PnP RPG is never massive. That is not it.

Those were just as massive as your imagination was and im sorry to hear about your experiences.

 

Unless you are playing with imaginery friends. Whoever says pnp rpg is massive just haven't played one. If pnp RPG is massive, than Skyrim is massive too. After all, you can "imagine" all the NPCs are real people, right?

You sound like a guy who tries to  read a  book but dont like books because people on those are NPCs.

Its your imagination and if you dont have one,i really cant help,Skyrims modding tools,imagination is the limit there also but like you said again it cant be massive.

 

 

 

 

 

  Kyleran

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11/13/12 5:48:57 PM#44
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ShakyMo

one that fullfills all the words in the acronym

most recent games dont really do the massive, multiplayer or role playing parts, once you hit endgame they are indistinguishable from other online games like CSGO or borderlands 2, instead of looking at a server list in a lobby you sit in a city and hit an auto queue or wait for your firends to come online.  Not much different.

Exactly. Thus, i treat MMOs like online ARPG. The only different between D3, BL2, and a modern themepark MMO is the combat mechanics, and the look of the lobby.

 

With the addition of a couple of words, you have summarized the landscape pretty much perfectly. 

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  MMOExposed

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11/13/12 6:15:13 PM#45

*MEANING OF MMO

-Massively Multiplayer

-Online

this simply means a game which has a Persistent world, for large numbers of players to play together. All MMO share this common element. No Persistent World, no MMO.

there are many different sub genres of a MMO.

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*SUB GENRES OF MMO

-MMORPG- the most popular form of MMO. based off of Role Play Gaming.

-MMOFPS- a MMO based on FPS combat.

-MMORTS - a real time strategy game placed in a persistent game world for massive amount of players to interact.

-MMOVW- simply a Virtural game world. Think of it as a giant 3D chat room with 3D avatars. Playstation Home and Maidmarian and second life fit this.

  Cecropia

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11/13/12 6:54:17 PM#46
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ShakyMo

one that fullfills all the words in the acronym

most recent games dont really do the massive, multiplayer or role playing parts, once you hit endgame they are indistinguishable from other online games like CSGO or borderlands 2, instead of looking at a server list in a lobby you sit in a city and hit an auto queue or wait for your firends to come online.  Not much different.

Exactly. Thus, i treat MMOs like online ARPG. The only different between D3, BL2, and a MMO is the combat mechanics, and the look of the lobby.

 

Your bastardized view of what an mmo is dives deeply into disturbing. This homogenization of gaming is foolish and extremely unhealthy for the industry long term. I can only hope that people with your tastes fall into the minority down the road. More and more gamers seem to be opening their eyes as the danger in continuing down our current path becomes ever clearer.

"Mmo" and "lobby" should never even materialize in your head as a thought let alone be used in the same sentence. Shame!

 

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  nariusseldon

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11/14/12 11:54:26 AM#47
Originally posted by ForumPvP
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ForumPvP
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ForumPvP
Originally posted by mbd1968

 

So back to my original question, what is a Real MMO?

If that MMO can be transformed in to a paper and pen RPG,then its quite close.

Imagine random lft tools on paper and pen ,people who dont speak and tries to kill dungeon master and then farts.

UO is close but there is none ,mostly because MMORPG development stopped years ago.

PnP RPG is never massive. That is not it.

Those were just as massive as your imagination was and im sorry to hear about your experiences.

 

Unless you are playing with imaginery friends. Whoever says pnp rpg is massive just haven't played one. If pnp RPG is massive, than Skyrim is massive too. After all, you can "imagine" all the NPCs are real people, right?

You sound like a guy who tries to  read a  book but dont like books because people on those are NPCs.

Its your imagination and if you dont have one,i really cant help,Skyrims modding tools,imagination is the limit there also but like you said again it cant be massive.

 

 

 

 

 

That point is the if i have to use my imagination to make it massive .. then there is no difference between a MMO and Diablo, or COD.

You can use your imagination to make any game with NPCs massive.

  nariusseldon

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11/14/12 11:58:17 AM#48
Originally posted by Cecropia
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ShakyMo

one that fullfills all the words in the acronym

most recent games dont really do the massive, multiplayer or role playing parts, once you hit endgame they are indistinguishable from other online games like CSGO or borderlands 2, instead of looking at a server list in a lobby you sit in a city and hit an auto queue or wait for your firends to come online.  Not much different.

Exactly. Thus, i treat MMOs like online ARPG. The only different between D3, BL2, and a MMO is the combat mechanics, and the look of the lobby.

 

Your bastardized view of what an mmo is dives deeply into disturbing. This homogenization of gaming is foolish and extremely unhealthy for the industry long term. I can only hope that people with your tastes fall into the minority down the road. More and more gamers seem to be opening their eyes as the danger in continuing down our current path becomes ever clearer.

"Mmo" and "lobby" should never even materialize in your head as a thought let alone be used in the same sentence. Shame!

 

Disturbing? Just for the view of some random guy on the internet on GAMES? "Danger"? Danger of what? Danger of not being entertained?

Games boils down to personal preferences and what is fun. If devs make games i like, i play. Otherwise, i will go to other form of entertainment. It is that simple. Online ARPGs are fun for me, and many others (well D3 sold 10M, that said something, TL is popular, that said something). Those games (as well as others) are competing for my time & money just like MMOs.

I don't see why i shouldn't compare them as games and choose the ones i like.

I don't know if my tastes are in the minority .. but the games i like (diablo, torchlight, dishonor, wow,....) are popular.

 

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