Originally posted by Dahkot72

Originally posted by mikahr

Rubbish.

Every MMO out there is made around story, what do you think they just build /random world and then look at what they have?

SWTORs "staticness" doesnt have anything to do with their story telling, because every other MMO out ther is more-less like that, frozen in time story takes place (except WoWs Cata? and remake)

You just unraveled 15 years known secret - MMOs are built so every player that plays it after you has same experience - even you on an alt.

Man, rubbish people can come out with lol

SWTORs problem is they cloned 8 -12 year old games, released 2004 game in 2012, with awfully stale and anti-social endgame (aka grind FPs/raids for gear) and that they heavily shifted focus from unique class stories in leveling to generic MMO quests (so awful replayability AND awful "staticness" was born just as in any generic EQ/WoW clone).

Actually they did worse.

Those games in 2004 managed to have sunsets , night and day , and weather.

EQ in 99 could make it rain and change time.

EA/Bioware in 2010 couldn't even make that work.

But they had voices man , voices , and that to them was more important than a virtual world that didn't seem beyond stale.

They may have been lacking in the areas you mentioned, but they more then made up for it with all the exciting new ways in which they added bonus loading screens throughout the gaming expeirnce.

Originally posted by Dahkot72

Actually they did worse.

Those games in 2004 managed to have sunsets , night and day , and weather.

EQ in 99 could make it rain and change time.

EA/Bioware in 2010 couldn't even make that work.

But they had voices man , voices , and that to them was more important than a virtual world that didn't seem beyond stale.

Yah, those also dont have much to do with them wanting to tell a good story that makes sense, but just plain bad desing choices (or limitations of the engine).

I honestly thought they would do world instances (story areas, heroic world instaces, end bosses for bonus quests...) as Fallen Earth did it, it makes so much more sense and is so brilliant solution, but also they didnt, they just put red screen. I mean if indie game can do it....also doesnt have much to do with telling a story but things i mentoned above.