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  CaptainObvious

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Joined: 11/10/12
Posts: 34

11/10/12 7:05:03 AM#41

I have never actually bothered to write a message on here but I became incredibly bored so finally made an account.

 

Interest in the game has in no way picked up. You can see that very clearly from their stock shares which are bottoming out. Soon the company will not be worth the paper its name is printed on.

 

There has actually been a MASS exodus recently from the game with almost 100 accounts being unsubbed regarding recent GM decisions and some very shady practices. 

 

The fact that GM's are allowed to play the game (Even though they say they are not) is a bit of a joke really. Take GM Herious for example, other wise known as ELY SWEED and more recently a member of RLC/FL. 

 

Allowing a GM that makes game changing decisions to play the game that he is a moderator of and actively participate in any political actions is a bit of a joke really. 

 

Until Discord is removed and Henrik digs deep in his daddies pockets to hire some quality professional staff the game will always be riddled with corruption and bias. 

 

The community has even called out for this. Recent polls went up on the MO forum calling for Discord to step down and Theia to take up his mantle. It was massively in the favour of Discord stepping down until the SV machine stepped in to cover it up quickly. As with any nasty thing that ever pops up within the MO community concerning the staff and their less than unbiased actions it was brushed under the carpet.

 

SV needs to win back its community. Which they have no hope of doing. 

  argirop

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11/10/12 11:26:35 AM#42
Originally posted by CroniteLore
Originally posted by YojimboBimbo
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by CroniteLore
 

Hey I bitch at SV as much as the rest of you - Mo is flawed and needs much love. 

 Please share with us a link to your many posts complaining about the game either here or on the official forums.  It would lend much credibility to your statement.

 

Agreed, because the title of your op doesn't help your case either.  We all know interest isn't really "picking up" and things are slow over there.  Maybe less bull would help those see that you have the same concerns as the rest of us.  

 

I share concerns about the state of the game in terms of code and development speed for sure.

All the abusive comments made here about them tho are a mouth full of un-shaven balls.

 

All your posts in MMORPG are pretty much of the same kind and following the same strategy: 1)quickly jump in the middle of a conversation, 2) pick someone thats blaming SV for one of the thousands given reasons, bash him/ her personally cause you disagree or simply do your work and 3 ) jump out of the conversation again.

Your credibility is non existant and only thing you re trying to do is to create some noise around MO which is long dead for many but mostly the same reasons repeating all over again and again by the same people. MO is a shadow of a sandbox game since theres absolutely nothing regarding its half assed non working, shallow features  that could allow someone to call it as you do. So to answer your question asking for a sndbox game out there worth playing or even a plethora of Sandbox games that you can chose from i will just have to say that there isnt but nor MO is one of them. And again regarding SV get your shit together. As much as you failing to see SV is a corporation. They are selling a product, they are advertising it (whatever means they are using its still advertisment) they are charging people for a monthly fee. They are even out in the stock market. As a corporation they suck donkeys ballz for a million reasons that have being discussed all over again and you know them one by one. They dont deserve support since they didnt even tried to fix their game after all those years and their only common tactic was their desperate tries to hold as many subs they could based on lies, hype and broken promisses based on the simple fact that there arent any worthy sandboxe games out there and a specific playerbase is hungry for a decent sandbox which MO never was and will never be.

Now to finish this cause honestly i dont believe it worths anyones time to discuss with you since all you do again is simply jump in, write few lines down the road of insulting others without even bothering with posting any facts, acting like people around here are delusional and you are the voice of common sense will simply have to ask you to give as a few links to backup your saying that you are sitting in the same wagon train with the rest and you often posting your complains and concerns about this "awesome" game you are trying to advertise as we speak. And i ve asked you in the past in one of your usual jump in/ flame/ bail out posts who are you in game but you didnt even bother to ask so i have to ask you again: do you even play the game?

  SaintPhilip

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Joined: 3/22/12
Posts: 729

11/10/12 5:36:01 PM#43
Originally posted by argirop
Originally posted by CroniteLore
Originally posted by YojimboBimbo
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by CroniteLore
 

Hey I bitch at SV as much as the rest of you - Mo is flawed and needs much love. 

 Please share with us a link to your many posts complaining about the game either here or on the official forums.  It would lend much credibility to your statement.

 

Agreed, because the title of your op doesn't help your case either.  We all know interest isn't really "picking up" and things are slow over there.  Maybe less bull would help those see that you have the same concerns as the rest of us.  

 

I share concerns about the state of the game in terms of code and development speed for sure.

All the abusive comments made here about them tho are a mouth full of un-shaven balls.

 

All your posts in MMORPG are pretty much of the same kind and following the same strategy: 1)quickly jump in the middle of a conversation, 2) pick someone thats blaming SV for one of the thousands given reasons, bash him/ her personally cause you disagree or simply do your work and 3 ) jump out of the conversation again.

Your credibility is non existant and only thing you re trying to do is to create some noise around MO which is long dead for many but mostly the same reasons repeating all over again and again by the same people. MO is a shadow of a sandbox game since theres absolutely nothing regarding its half assed non working, shallow features  that could allow someone to call it as you do. So to answer your question asking for a sndbox game out there worth playing or even a plethora of Sandbox games that you can chose from i will just have to say that there isnt but nor MO is one of them. And again regarding SV get your shit together. As much as you failing to see SV is a corporation. They are selling a product, they are advertising it (whatever means they are using its still advertisment) they are charging people for a monthly fee. They are even out in the stock market. As a corporation they suck donkeys ballz for a million reasons that have being discussed all over again and you know them one by one. They dont deserve support since they didnt even tried to fix their game after all those years and their only common tactic was their desperate tries to hold as many subs they could based on lies, hype and broken promisses based on the simple fact that there arent any worthy sandboxe games out there and a specific playerbase is hungry for a decent sandbox which MO never was and will never be.

Now to finish this cause honestly i dont believe it worths anyones time to discuss with you since all you do again is simply jump in, write few lines down the road of insulting others without even bothering with posting any facts, acting like people around here are delusional and you are the voice of common sense will simply have to ask you to give as a few links to backup your saying that you are sitting in the same wagon train with the rest and you often posting your complains and concerns about this "awesome" game you are trying to advertise as we speak. And i ve asked you in the past in one of your usual jump in/ flame/ bail out posts who are you in game but you didnt even bother to ask so i have to ask you again: do you even play the game?

Spot on-

I would add he/they also avoid any specific issue mentioned and try to talk "around" issues- When he/they are proven wrong (i.e. SV being a Corporation/Stealing EULAS/Corruption/etc)  he/they go away (never responding) and come back later with more personal attacks or just to say "we are wrong/delusional/etc."

-Then (when all else fails) it becomes either

a) Its a "small team"

OR

b) We have to support "sandbox games" like MO or nobody will make them again.

EDIT: It has been the same tactic again and again and again . Only now the fanboy numbers are almost non-existant. And when all else fails and the conversation is going against them- The "derail the thread and try to get it locked" tactic comes into play.

  deathshroud

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/06/10
Posts: 1389

11/10/12 6:03:04 PM#44
Warz also stole the EULA from War Inc, was changed but Dotix spotted it.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  SaintPhilip

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Joined: 3/22/12
Posts: 729

11/10/12 6:12:49 PM#45
Originally posted by deathshroud
Warz also stole the EULA from War Inc, was changed but Dotix spotted it.

Hmmm- Last I looked this was the MO Forum, Deathshroud.

Enron is another Corporation who ripped people off...Your point?

MO had the stolen EULA up for over a year and was released and was publicly shamed by CCP over it (made the gaming news)- But if you are worried about War Z  or want to discuss it being a rip off- This isnt the place. THIS is about MO (mortal Online) and SV (Star vault) and has nothing to do with any other game and what THEY do.

EDIT: To MY above post

c) Blame other people to change the subject or point out rip offs in other Corporations

  MeGaTronPower

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/09/12
Posts: 83

11/10/12 6:18:00 PM#46
Originally posted by ForumPvP

I still have this black metal box and empty booklet and i think i  will still wait anothet year,it looks like its still in the beta :/

Edit: just checked the box and theres no booklet / manual,never was i think hmph.

OMG lol forumPVP i read your quote and laughed ou loud soo hard i have tears coming ou of my eyes thank you it was entertaining comment.

 

 

  Slapshot1188

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Joined: 5/06/07
Posts: 4096

11/10/12 7:25:59 PM#47
Originally posted by deathshroud
Warz also stole the EULA from War Inc, was changed but Dotix spotted it.

Umm.. you do know that War Inc and Warz are financed by the same company... Arktos Entertainment Group right?

 

Nice try though but lets stay on the topic of "interest in Mortal Online" which has got to be near an all-time low.  I mean, its a sub game asking for donations to stay open.  That is what most would call a failed business model or a failed product.

 

 

"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-)

  Jester92

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Joined: 2/10/07
Posts: 156

I keep duct tape on me at all times to repair my Hel when the time comes.

11/12/12 9:03:21 PM#48
In honest the only interest mortal brings to me is being able to snipe someone from outside of town by taking the time to learn where I had to aim to hit people standing infront of the butcher's table with a long bow :/

J. B.

  aRtFuLThinG

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Joined: 4/30/09
Posts: 1004

11/12/12 11:45:14 PM#49
Originally posted by CroniteLore

Hey I bitch at SV as much as the rest of you - Mo is flawed and needs much love.  Their AI is hardly that innovative, graphics nice but not ground-breaking, Guild-war stuff ok but not industry leading,  Howwver it's not the pil 'o shite you;re portaying.

Lol yes it is not a "pile of shit" - it is worse. Saying MO it is a "pile of shit" is really disrepecting the status of "a pile of shit" lol - even shit have less bugs hovering over it.

 

And also as for there are "no other sandbox out there", buddy there are quality sandbox titles. EVE online is one. You just choose to bypass all of that either - A. you don't like that genre or B. just to make your broken point.

  deathshroud

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Joined: 11/06/10
Posts: 1389

11/13/12 12:29:16 AM#50
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by deathshroud
Warz also stole the EULA from War Inc, was changed but Dotix spotted it.

Umm.. you do know that War Inc and Warz are financed by the same company... Arktos Entertainment Group right?

 

Nice try though but lets stay on the topic of "interest in Mortal Online" which has got to be near an all-time low.  I mean, its a sub game asking for donations to stay open.  That is what most would call a failed business model or a failed product.

 

 

same publisher yea but it isnt the same development team. Its also lazy copy pasting. But it happens regularly and MO wasnt the only mmo to have EVE's EULA.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  mgilbrtsn

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Joined: 2/14/09
Posts: 1079

He who fights and runs away... misses out on the loot

11/13/12 12:33:48 AM#51
Originally posted by wireded21

 

I'm going to starting a free trial this weekend. Have been wanting to give it a go for a while. Ex DF player so will report back with my feedback after the trial.

I'm with you.  Let me give it a second look and see what's going on.  It's been a while, and maybe some improvements have been made.  I too will document and give feedback on this thread.

They are coming for you!

  YojimboBimbo

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Joined: 9/25/12
Posts: 174

11/13/12 12:56:53 AM#52
Some improvements have been made in some areas. Regrettably, every "improvement" somehow breaks another feature or is implemented in a half-assed manner. Sad really.
  SaintPhilip

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Joined: 3/22/12
Posts: 729

11/13/12 12:56:58 AM#53
Originally posted by deathshroud
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by deathshroud
Warz also stole the EULA from War Inc, was changed but Dotix spotted it.

Umm.. you do know that War Inc and Warz are financed by the same company... Arktos Entertainment Group right?

 

Nice try though but lets stay on the topic of "interest in Mortal Online" which has got to be near an all-time low.  I mean, its a sub game asking for donations to stay open.  That is what most would call a failed business model or a failed product.

 

 

same publisher yea but it isnt the same development team. Its also lazy copy pasting. But it happens regularly and MO wasnt the only mmo to have EVE's EULA.

Death, give it a rest buddy.

If Eves EULA is so regulary stolen why can I only find THIS article.... http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/mortal-online-plagiarizes-eve-onlines-terms-of-service/  (and again, this is a MO forum- Many Corporations steal but we are talking about the corporation- Star Vault- Who makes MO)..

 

Now, I know its hard to stay on topic- But excusing copyright infringment and/or theft by pointing the finger and saying "X company does it too" isnt going to fly.

-Now we can get back on topic (which is all the sudden Interest in this stellar game)

EDIT: If someone can quickly find the Public Statement by CCP that would be awesome because THAT was funny as hell.

  SaintPhilip

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11/13/12 1:01:13 AM#54

-Here it is....

Star Vault:

We here at CCP couldn’t help but notice that our expert wordsmithing, legal poetry and cunning turns of phrase have been emulated with sincerest flattery by your technical writing and/or legal staff. In fact, ardent fans of our EULA have surfaced, themselves noticing your homage to our work. See their assessment here: http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/mortal-online-plagiarizes-eve-onlines-terms-of-service/

EVE Online is a notoriously dangerous universe. So we have to caution you -- in fact, we demand that you don’t follow our footsteps or use our copyrighted work. After all, internet spaceships are serious business, so probably best to keep our internet spaceship business out of your business language. Please stop using our legal agreements, and kindly remove our name from your website.

---
What are people going to copy next... our spreadsheets?!

  deathshroud

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11/13/12 1:07:30 AM#55

yea i have read all that beofre and i specifically rmeember someone pointing out a fantasy based f2p mmo that also had used eves eula but nobody seemed concerned about it.

Thats when people started speculating that maybe it was the compoany hired to write up the eula's that had been copying them, or maybe both had been lazy and copied the EULA from EVE.

 

I have no reason to be defending MO here, im just pointing out the truth.

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  StarI

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11/13/12 2:44:40 AM#56
Originally posted by CroniteLore

I think this board has a huge contribution to make to the MMO genre.

Without sites like mmorpg.com lots of ppl would be playing sad humm drumm cookie cutter MMO's like Wow.

So, even if ppl disagree (and that's fine) the more we all talk about Mortal Online, and Star Vault the more people will take a look.

As with the recent elections, people have been told what to think but they made up their own minds and that's alesson to all.

Take a good, careful, look here, digest what the good andgreat are saying.  But as free-thinkin human beings - go make up your won mind. Don't be lead like a bunch of sheep.

 

Thanks to everyone here for keeping the Mortal Online topic fresh and and posting frequently!!   You're all doing a great job for the industry! 

 

You're all doing a service to Sandbox MMO's in general - so well done everyone!! MMO's are the new and future entertainment mode. Everyone here is doing a great job of keeping Mortal at the top of the page.  They deserve it - after several years, SV are carrying on despite what some of the crystal ballers here say. 

 

Love it or hate it you're all helping to make ppl take a look!!  Well done All of you - I really mean that - thankyou very much!!

 

We're allowed to disagree and have our opinions and that's what's great about a board like this.  Viva mmorpg.com!!!!

 

Good thread. Idd it's good to see MO on top of mmorpg.com so many times. Guys here ARE doing a a good job keeping MO on top, not letting it drift in dark chasms of oblivion.

  Biskop

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Joined: 10/06/11
Posts: 731

11/13/12 4:38:11 AM#57
Originally posted by StarI
Originally posted by CroniteLore

I think this board has a huge contribution to make to the MMO genre.

Without sites like mmorpg.com lots of ppl would be playing sad humm drumm cookie cutter MMO's like Wow.

So, even if ppl disagree (and that's fine) the more we all talk about Mortal Online, and Star Vault the more people will take a look.

As with the recent elections, people have been told what to think but they made up their own minds and that's alesson to all.

Take a good, careful, look here, digest what the good andgreat are saying.  But as free-thinkin human beings - go make up your won mind. Don't be lead like a bunch of sheep.

 

Thanks to everyone here for keeping the Mortal Online topic fresh and and posting frequently!!   You're all doing a great job for the industry! 

 

You're all doing a service to Sandbox MMO's in general - so well done everyone!! MMO's are the new and future entertainment mode. Everyone here is doing a great job of keeping Mortal at the top of the page.  They deserve it - after several years, SV are carrying on despite what some of the crystal ballers here say. 

 

Love it or hate it you're all helping to make ppl take a look!!  Well done All of you - I really mean that - thankyou very much!!

 

We're allowed to disagree and have our opinions and that's what's great about a board like this.  Viva mmorpg.com!!!!

 

Good thread. Idd it's good to see MO on top of mmorpg.com so many times. Guys here ARE doing a a good job keeping MO on top, not letting it drift in dark chasms of oblivion.

Still, when 95% of the threads and posts are about bugs, low pop, shady business practices, corrupt GMs or hilariious scandals and epic failures (and the rest is obvious fanboy/SV propaganda and "viral marketing"), one would perhaps think that the chasms of oblivion are preferable. I can't think of any game with worse rep than MO.

And no, not all publicity is good publicity. OJ Simpson made a lot of headlines in his day, but did it really help his career that much? And a more recent example: News of the World. Lots and lots of coverage and media exposure - and what happened next?

 

  Toferio

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Posts: 1456

11/13/12 6:28:55 AM#58
Originally posted by deathshroud

yea i have read all that beofre and i specifically rmeember someone pointing out a fantasy based f2p mmo that also had used eves eula but nobody seemed concerned about it.

Thats when people started speculating that maybe it was the compoany hired to write up the eula's that had been copying them, or maybe both had been lazy and copied the EULA from EVE.

 

I have no reason to be defending MO here, im just pointing out the truth.

Were they lazy enough to not even edit out the "eve" part out too?

  deathshroud

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Posts: 1389

11/13/12 3:17:58 PM#59

the shady dealing of sv consist of....

 

auto subbing accounts at release.

bending the rules to try to keep players ingame

lifting bans on players who were previously perma banned.

double charging players and leaving it down to the players to sort out refund.

 

cant really think of any other, possibly simply failing to deliver on what they promise but im not sure that is shady dealing. Its been a long time since any of them happened except the bending of the rules part, so its easy for players who didnt play during that first year to not know anything about it or be concerend about those issues afterall why would they be? Could happen again only time will tell.

 

if anyone can think of any others?

there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.

  aRtFuLThinG

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Posts: 1004

11/13/12 3:31:57 PM#60
Originally posted by SaintPhilip

Death, give it a rest buddy.

If Eves EULA is so regulary stolen why can I only find THIS article.... http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/mortal-online-plagiarizes-eve-onlines-terms-of-service/  (and again, this is a MO forum- Many Corporations steal but we are talking about the corporation- Star Vault- Who makes MO)..

 

Now, I know its hard to stay on topic- But excusing copyright infringment and/or theft by pointing the finger and saying "X company does it too" isnt going to fly.

-Now we can get back on topic (which is all the sudden Interest in this stellar game)

EDIT: If someone can quickly find the Public Statement by CCP that would be awesome because THAT was funny as hell.

Love that EULA stealing, what a classic, funny as hell.

 

What that is saying is that basically if you play MO, as long as youa re not play EVE Online, you are entitle to a refund of fees paid haha :P

 

I think you guys should all asked for money back when that EULA was on MO :P

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