Originally posted by timtrack

"Bwuaaaaa, i played SWTOR 100 hours/week and i was bored after 2 months"

"Bwuaaaaa, i'm a spoiled little brat with no perspective"

"Bwuaaaaa, i've played MMO's for 20 years and every new game sucks, it's not because i'm burned out"

"Bwuaaaaa, every game is a failure unless they reinvent the wheel"

"Bwuaaaaa, why r u guyz fallin for for hypez"

 

Are you people really still doing this?

Yep they are :P

Still can't see whats wrong with Secret World, enjoying it, just didn't want to pay so much for it so when ti came out cheap I got it. But I love lovecraft themes.

GW2 was never going to be anything I would play as I didn't like GWs, the GF has it and plays it once a month if that, mainly because of the people who rushed past her and now moan about how boring it is, puts her off.

Now SWTOR is just a single player game, might play it now its going f2p for the single player game, but otherwise isn't at all interesting as I'm not a star wars fan.

Last but not least ESO, not read or seen anything about the game and planning not to until its out and I can see the first lots of fanboi and haters reviews. Crafting is important to me to get the idea of a living breathing world so will see what happens there.

I was very vocally against TESO when it was announced.  (look at my post history if you dont believe me)  I am much more open to the games idea now based on the information that we know.  (see my sig for info).

Doesn't mean I cant be cautiously optimistic of the game though even if I have my doubts on this mega server technology, heavy use of phasing, over the shoulder 3rd person perspective and overall longevity.  I will still follow it, to do so is leaving your self devoid of knowledgable information needed to make a "buy or pass" determination on release day.

Originally posted by muffins89

Originally posted by DavisFlight

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Firor has been dying to make DAOC2 but couldnt get the rights.

But Elder Scrolls is popular so........$$$

Except, DAoC 1 didn't have phasing and instancing. This will.

Failure.

what part of the instancing and phasing bothers you?

Can't speak for him but for me it makes the game feel like a solo game experience.  When I play an MMO I want to see hundreds of people around me enjoying what I am enjoying and experiencing that new MMO smell.  Phasing and instancing removes that aspect.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by muffins89

Originally posted by DavisFlight

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Firor has been dying to make DAOC2 but couldnt get the rights.

But Elder Scrolls is popular so........$$$

Except, DAoC 1 didn't have phasing and instancing. This will.

Failure.

what part of the instancing and phasing bothers you?

Can't speak for him but for me it makes the game feel like a solo game experience.  When I play an MMO I want to see hundreds of people around me enjoying what I am enjoying and experiencing that new MMO smell.  Phasing and instancing removes that aspect.

i agree with you.  as i dont particularly like phasing or instancing.  but,  you will always be with people regardless.  if you choose option A you will be with other option A choosers.  etc etc.  to me where it can become a problem is grouping with friends.  and zenimax has already assured us that we will be able to group with friends regardless of the quest choices we make.  so with that said.  knowing you will be with 'hundreds' of people that choose the same quest you did.  and knowing you can group with your friends.  what else about the system do you not like?

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by muffins89

Originally posted by DavisFlight

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Firor has been dying to make DAOC2 but couldnt get the rights.

But Elder Scrolls is popular so........$$$

Except, DAoC 1 didn't have phasing and instancing. This will.

Failure.

what part of the instancing and phasing bothers you?

Can't speak for him but for me it makes the game feel like a solo game experience.  When I play an MMO I want to see hundreds of people around me enjoying what I am enjoying and experiencing that new MMO smell.  Phasing and instancing removes that aspect.

These are both things that are in ESO...

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

A new flashy trailer comes out and everyone is ready to give their bodies to Zenimax as tribute to their greatness (in Marketing!)

 

Seriously, does anyone remember SWTOR still? I know weve tried to put the image in the back of our head and really repress all those terrible memories, but lets not forget ESO is still an MMO from a AAA company. The new trailer really does make the game look great, at least in the over-exagerated 500 person armies battling and the whole "Play how you want style", which is very well displayed in a video depicting every Elder Scrolls character ever donning the EXACT Helmet from skyrim in every scene. Seriously isnt this set BEFORE skyrim? Was the Dovakiin the first Hipster who brought that style back a few centuries later?

 

Anyway let me just refresh your memory on how "Good" marketing can make even a crap-piece of a game look amazing. 

 

Exhibit A

 

Also am I the only one who finds it hypocritical that ESO fans like to say us Core Elder Scrolls fans are too dismissive of ESO, yet one video comes out showing the game systems in an over-edited and cinematic fashion (Obviously to increase hype) and everyone goes crazy apeshit over it???

Green lantern was a big pile of poo, therefor Avengers and DKR will be too...

I knew what I was getting with TOR, I knew what I was getting with GW2 and I'll make sure to know what I'm getting with TES:O before buying as well. With both TOR and GW2 it was exactly what I expected it to be.. Well, to be honest, I didn't expect TOR to die down as fast or GW2 to be as fun in the beginning as it was, but other than that, I haven't been surprised yet.

I'm not really worried about TES:O. Only MMO buy I actually regret is Champions Online.

Originally posted by ShakyMo
Jive there's no instancing and phasing in tes single player.

In fact how the hell can you have instancing in a single player game, who ate the other instances running for?

Tip: read up on what instancing really is.

Originally posted by Loke666

My interest for ESO died when the lead designer said that all good ideas for MMOs had already been done a while back.

If I am hyped for future MMOs it is for Class 4 and World of darkness online.

Then again, I might try the beta with no real expectations, sometimes a game can surprise me.

 This is a typical attitude to most people who just want to have a look at a title rather than supporting the develpoment. Trying the game and contributing are two different things and IMO you should only be allowed in Beta if you can prove you are able to contribute. People just joining beta are only wanting to play the early game and do not care about the outcome of the title.

To many people expect the moon on a stick and are just checky and this is another reason that developer are making people pay to beta test because people have just abused a title in development.

Originally posted by Onomas

Originally posted by KhinRunite

Originally posted by Karteli

Who exactly do you mean by "you people?" :p

 

After SWTOR and GW2 failed I am far less persuaded by anyone, even 1 person, saying this game is fun!, without me seeing it firsthand.

 

SWTOR tought me never again to preorder games.

GW2 tought me never to buy any game linked to a casual fanbase.

 

Another I could never have forseen,

WoW Cataclysm tought me never to buy Activision-Blizzard products.

 

TESO tought me __________ . This blank reserved for the final relase :P

Seems like you must get burned first before you learn a lesson. How about being more insightful so you could avoid all these heartbreaks?

Thats why it pisses me off in this community when fanboys attack an insult anyone making any negative remarks against "their" game. As a consumer and a gamer i want to know the good and bad. I want to hear everyones opinion and thoughts. Just not the good, or claimed to be good.

 

Because the swtor and gw2 fans that bashed everyone and everything are idiots. And i never listen to hype, just plain facts and videos if i can not get into the beta.

 

Our community fails each other everytime something like this happens. nd beta testers suck so bad now, it horrible how so many can say the game is so great and it falls flat on its butt 2 months out the door due to issues, bugs, problems, etc....

When the majority of people use the beta test as a free trial instead of actually TESTING the game, what can you expect?

I personally assume every mmo is just garbage till I play it, works out fine for me (read my sig), Sadly most of them actually end up being garbage so I am proven right. ESO sounds decent but I bet it'll not live up to the hype at all and people will be disapointed, as with pretty mch every mmo that has never lived up to what the devs promised.

Some rules I like to follow.

1) Never believe a review on any sites like ign, game spot etc because they can be bribed to review it higher than it deserves (swtor and most other big name mmo's have gotten this). Bascally its like "You review our game highly or no ad revenue from us for you"

2) When looking at reviews by players, learn to determine of the reviewer is a fanboy (which means they will score it higher than it deserves) or if its someone who is unbiased, you can usually tell the diffrence pretty easly.

3) I'll be honest here most mmorpg players these days are morons who are bascally like cattle being lead to the slaughterhouse, they'll believe anything that is said about the game, and in general they are easly manipulated fools.