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  mmoguy43

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Posts: 2347

11/08/12 4:28:00 PM#41
Mike, not say you are wrong but where did you get the information that there is "only two character slots per server" ? I have not read that before for free or prefered players.

Let's build the ultimate MMO 1 feature at a time
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/398555/page/1

"blocked nariusseldon since forever"

  Torvaldr

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11/08/12 5:53:25 PM#42
Originally posted by lizardbones

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Sevenstar61 You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12   Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.
Right, penalize the people who bought the game and actually subscribed.  Sounds like it is right out of the EA response book.

Seriously, why stick it to previous people who actually spent some real money on this game, only EA could come up with such a brain dead idea!



The same people who stopped paying for the game and left? If you're going to go on about loyalty, why should the developer show loyalty to the people who showed no loyalty to them? That whole link of thinking is a waste of time.

In any event, as a former subscriber, should I subscribe again, I would get more Cartel Coins than someone who never subscribed before. They are giving the former subscribers more than non-subscribers. Here's the thing. For the people on these forums, who are complaining about stuff like this, there doesn't exist and amount of stuff or reward that would make them happy. EA is better off not even trying.

Because the game doesn't have a great reputation.  In our business sometimes we support our customers even when they haven't paid.  Money isn't the only thing of value in a business and how your customers feel about you is very important.

The game doesn't have the best reputation.  It didn't really succeed how it was intended with its P2P model and is trying to readjust to maximize revenue.  It only makes sense to honeymoon the people who actually spent money on them at some point.  They could easily make a sliding scale where the amount of time plus current status factors into your rewards.

The idea they should be going with is how can I drum up the greatest amount of positive churn and feedback possible.  Give away a bunch of coins, take a little loss, and get people talking about how awesome you are now.  Instead it feels likey they're giving out what they have to in order to keep current subscribers from dropping them.  It's just poor marketing and an even worse EA corporate culture showing through.

Curse you AquaScum!

  User Deleted
11/08/12 6:54:18 PM#43
I've given SWTOR a lot and I mean A LOT of heat, but ..... Now that its priced right and since playing GW2 and PokePanda, I can't believe it, but if free to play is the same experience I remember swtor being, then I can't believe it this could be my new primary game again. At this price this game is top notch, see price and humbling thyself is making a difference. Can't wait!!!
  Astropuyo

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I lose more stars than a hollywood speedball convention.

11/08/12 7:32:03 PM#44
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12

 

Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.

I disagree, they should reward those whom paid the 60 dollar box and left after they realized it was a hero's journey done up with light sabers.

 

We always forget those box prices when it comes to mmo's.

 

Of course EA's management disagree's with me, but that's no surprise. I'm full of awesome common sense!

 
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  User Deleted
11/08/12 8:26:57 PM#45
Originally posted by Astropuyo
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12

 

Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.

I disagree, they should reward those whom paid the 60 dollar box and left after they realized it was a hero's journey done up with light sabers.

 

We always forget those box prices when it comes to mmo's.

 

Of course EA's management disagree's with me, but that's no surprise. I'm full of awesome common sense!

 

i am not bashing you but it is not ea fault if you bought a 60 dollar box without first waiting to see how the game will move and progress and if you will like it . 

  Cancrizans

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Joined: 11/15/11
Posts: 4

11/08/12 9:15:56 PM#46

 I am semi-interested in checking back in when it goes F2P, but honestly not liking what I am hearing atm. Have to pay to turn my hood on and off and unlock HOTBARS lol? Sounds more like Bioware is trying to pull a fast one to recoup their losses than actually making a F2P system that gives players options and isn't overly restrictive. I am especially irked by the minimal differences between preferred and free, and the fact you can pay $5 for this "preferred" status. Many of us spent $80-$150 on the box alone, then subbed for multiple months. We should get a bit more than you can buy for $5.

  TheCrow2k

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Joined: 10/19/09
Posts: 956

11/08/12 10:22:54 PM#47

Sorry but even making it "Free" is not going to be enough to kickstart SWTOR.

There is just not enough to the game to retain players for more than a month or two even when the subscription is free. Sure they will get a few waves of players onboard because its free now but most will wash out a few months later.

  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
Posts: 7547

11/08/12 10:26:09 PM#48
Who knows I may jump back on to check out my BH and Agent. Heck I may even pay for a week pass of pvp >.< Idk..
  eddieg50

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Posts: 1500

11/08/12 10:44:12 PM#49
Agreed
  eddieg50

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11/08/12 10:44:53 PM#50
Originally posted by eddieg50
Agreed, If we paid once why should we have to pay for a sub again?
 

 

  TheOctagon

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Joined: 2/12/11
Posts: 169

11/08/12 11:40:34 PM#51

I thought it was hilariously funny their actually restricting FTP players open chat.

Preferred status = Increased access to Chat and Secure Trading.

I wonder if you'll get a certain word amount you can post per day, then they cut you off.

  TheOctagon

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Joined: 2/12/11
Posts: 169

11/08/12 11:49:17 PM#52
Originally posted by lotaparty
Originally posted by Astropuyo
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12

 

Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.

I disagree, they should reward those whom paid the 60 dollar box and left after they realized it was a hero's journey done up with light sabers.

 

We always forget those box prices when it comes to mmo's.

 

Of course EA's management disagree's with me, but that's no surprise. I'm full of awesome common sense!

 

i am not bashing you but it is not ea fault if you bought a 60 dollar box without first waiting to see how the game will move and progress and if you will like it . 

 

But it is EA's fault for making a brick that had to go FTP after a year. How about we see some of our$60 back in cartel coins. Oh wait, the game sucked, so I dropped my sub so now I'll get nothing for my money after all. I bought the Digital Deluxe Edition, and if I read correctly, you have to have a new account to go FTP, or else re-sub to get my old account back again.

  Aeolron

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Joined: 3/24/11
Posts: 664

Everyones a mmo vet these days :P

11/09/12 12:05:08 AM#53
I can understand where the people like myself were subbed for like 8+months and paid 149.99 for the ce and getting shafted, I'm with you on that, but as far as everyone else is concerned , your basically getting the game for " free " and complaining about throwing money here and there to get access? Come on talk about cheap. If you have that many issues paying for games just don't play them simple as that. Sorry if I came off alittle strong but it needs to be said, no one works or does work for free in today's world.
  trancejeremy

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Joined: 1/30/08
Posts: 1220

11/09/12 12:46:02 AM#54
"Finally, BioWare is also offering special item packs that remind me of some of the packs offered in the Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer store. You won’t be able to unlock these with credits, mind you, but the two packs available (Black Market and Crime Lord) offer players a chance at earning some special items"

Gambling boxes! Probably the worst road F2P has gone down.

R.I.P. City of Heroes and my 17 characters there

  MikeB

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Joined: 5/27/09
Posts: 5462

 
OP  11/09/12 12:47:24 AM#55
Originally posted by trancejeremy
"Finally, BioWare is also offering special item packs that remind me of some of the packs offered in the Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer store. You won’t be able to unlock these with credits, mind you, but the two packs available (Black Market and Crime Lord) offer players a chance at earning some special items"

Gambling boxes! Probably the worst road F2P has gone down.

I had pretty decent success getting cool stuff out of them on the PTS. I think they're kind of neat, actually!

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
Community Manager
Twitter: @eMikeB

  zomard100

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Joined: 11/16/11
Posts: 232

11/09/12 1:50:28 AM#56
Originally posted by BillMurphy
I plan on trying it too.  I never did get to finish some of my personal stories because other projects popped up.  This will allow that, at least!

 It is the best part of this game. Only to finish one class story  is great expirence

  thamighty213

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Joined: 9/17/06
Posts: 1648

11/09/12 3:11:51 AM#57
Originally posted by MikeB
Originally posted by Psychow

Is it true that the free Cartel Coins that previous subscribers have earned are not available to players unless they re-subscribe?

 

I have "earned" 900 cartel coins but I won't be able to use them unless I re-subscribe? If it's true, that doesn't make much sense. If they want to reward early subscribers and thank them for their initial support and hopefully lure then back to the F2P game, making them subscribe in order to receive that reward is pretty sad.

I don't see why this would be the case. Where did you hear this?

SWTOR have said it themselves to a degree they only added the second redemption phase after community backlash.

 

Today we are excited to announce that the global launch date of the Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Free-to-Play option will be November 15, 2012. This release will be simultaneous across all of the territories and countries The Old Republic™ is available.

If you’re a paying Subscriber at the launch of the Free-to-Play option on November 15th, you will be granted all of the Complimentary Cartel Coins currently listed on your Cartel Coin Ledger page, plus a one-time grant of 250 Complimentary Cartel Coins!

Additionally, we are extending the Rewards Program! All former subscribers who reactivate their subscription by the new date of December 20, 2012 at 11:59pm CST will be granted Complimentary Cartel Coins for their prior paid months up to November 15, 2012. For more information on all of the rewards you could potentially receive, visit www.StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com/FREE.

As always, be sure to check StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com for latest updates and follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.

 

So if you don't resub you get nothing regardless of what you may have acrued,   if you haven't took up this offer by 20th December you lose out on all prior month complimentary.   

It may just be community reading it wrong and poor wording on EA Biowares behalf but seeing as no CM has corrected the 1000 + page posts on the issues on the forums then I do indeed think the way I have described it is right.

Would be good if you journalist types who have a little more power than the average player can seek out a definitive answer.

 
  thamighty213

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11/09/12 3:15:01 AM#58
Originally posted by TheOctagon
Originally posted by lotaparty
Originally posted by Astropuyo
Originally posted by Sevenstar61

You have to be active subscriber at the time of launching F2P to get CC. It is believed that the date will be 11/14/12

 

Edit. They reward active subscribers, not every person who ever played the game. And I think it's a right choice.

I disagree, they should reward those whom paid the 60 dollar box and left after they realized it was a hero's journey done up with light sabers.

 

We always forget those box prices when it comes to mmo's.

 

Of course EA's management disagree's with me, but that's no surprise. I'm full of awesome common sense!

 

i am not bashing you but it is not ea fault if you bought a 60 dollar box without first waiting to see how the game will move and progress and if you will like it . 

 

But it is EA's fault for making a brick that had to go FTP after a year. How about we see some of our$60 back in cartel coins. Oh wait, the game sucked, so I dropped my sub so now I'll get nothing for my money after all. I bought the Digital Deluxe Edition, and if I read correctly, you have to have a new account to go FTP, or else re-sub to get my old account back again.

 

You read wrong.

 

If you sub to the game before December 20th you get Cartel coins for when you subbed and extra for having the digital CE edition etc.    If you do not want to sub you can still play on that old account as it would be given preffered status so you would have a few restrictions in place but your characters wouldnt be locked or unuseable etc

  Po_gg

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11/09/12 4:25:05 AM#59
Originally posted by mmoguy43
Mike, not say you are wrong but where did you get the information that there is "only two character slots per server" ? I have not read that before for free or prefered players.

I have not read that before   Me neither, but it seems correct. Sevenstar posted a link about the Cartel Market item list, and on the Subscriber benefits part there's "10 additional character slots per server". Since subs have 12 slots, seems logical that f2p/preferred will get 2 slot.

 

Which is not a problem, most f2p's have character slot restriction. What IS a problem instead, that I don't see character slot on the aforementioned Market list...  Which would be the stupidest f2p decision ever... Or not, that place is already taken by the hotbar restriction from the same company :)

But seriously, every game selling additional character slots, even those who don't have restriction on it and offering 6-8 slots by default, because character slot is maybe one of the most selling unlocks in any game. I have 4 toons in TOR, so when I check back after f2p, I will have to choose 2 of them, the other 2 stays locked. So far that's the standard procedure in most f2p's. Then I go to the Market to buy 2 more slots, and EA will say: "nope, dude, if you wanna play your other toons, you have to subscribe"? For real? Hilarious :)

 

Edit: since nobody else will return, I figured there's no point for me to stick to my old server. So I thought, I will pick 2 toons, then transfer them to an another server, then pick the other 2, this way all 4 will be active on two servers:)  Yep, good idea in theory, but just checked the account page, and it said character transfer is currently not available. Lol.

  LoverNoFighter

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SWG pre cu > all

11/09/12 4:45:09 AM#60

SWTOR 15.11.2012 F2P

SWG 15.11.2005 NGE

 

The irony is almost too much.

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