Originally posted by The_Korrigan

I don't jump on anything, I just correct obvious misinformation.

And about my "WoW clone" comment... your second sentence is "It doesn't have a "epic" gear or rare skills  to obtain.". Then you say "The cosmetic gear didn't hold the same draw for me as something with better stats.". That pretty much describes a gear grind based WoW clone.

PS: I have nothing against WoW, I'm definitely not a WoW hater, played it for 8 years and plan to play it again sometimes to go through Pandaland at least once.

And then I said  Granted it was known about the first two as well as raids. Implying that I knew ahead of time that they wouldn't be in the game.

I was simply stating that it doesn't have a traditional end game grind and that it's replacement didn't seem to have the same draw for me. Since this thread is about having a conversation with myself in the past during beta, I would think this would be something relevant that I would tell myself. Though I too was excited about the changes, I am finding that I prefer some of the older systems better.  This is a matter of personal preference.

There was no misinformation. To be honest, you did jump on this and it was kind of trollish of you.

Originally posted by Underbridge

And then I said  Granted it was known about the first two as well as raids. Implying that I knew ahead of time that they wouldn't be in the game.

I was simply stating that it doesn't have a traditional end game grind and that it's replacement didn't seem to have the same draw for me. Since this thread is about having a conversation with myself in the past during beta, I would think this would be something relevant that I would tell myself. Though I too was excited about the changes, I am finding that I prefer some of the older systems better.  This is a matter of personal preference.

There was no misinformation. To be honest, you did jump on this and it was kind of trollish of you.

Yeah, I know what you said: you said that after trying GW2's system, you regret the WoW clone gear grind model. You actually realized you like to grind for stats. I never said it was wrong or right, I just said I'm happy that for a change, GW2 is NOT based on that model, I'm aware some people need the gear carrot and won't like it.

All I was doing is fixing the misinformation you gave about the inability to "play the economy", which is blatantly wrong. YOU may not have been able to "play the economy" in GW2, but if people managed to do it, then it IS possible, and what you said is therefore obviously wrong. Note that I don't play the economy either, but I don't do that in any game, it's not my thing, yet I'm not here saying that because I don't do it, it's not possible.

And I will ignore the last sentence of your post for now, but know that retaliation is forbidden on this forum, and that includes what you did in that last sentence. I'd remove that before a moderator sees it (and then I'll remove this part of my post too, and this comment).

Buy the game, it will be a solid mmorpg.

But for the love of god ignore all the press, the manifestos and anything that has to do with the game´s hype or you will be bitterly disappointed and probably enjoy it less than you woul´d ve otherwhise.

Have fun.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by Underbridge

And then I said  Granted it was known about the first two as well as raids. Implying that I knew ahead of time that they wouldn't be in the game.

I was simply stating that it doesn't have a traditional end game grind and that it's replacement didn't seem to have the same draw for me. Since this thread is about having a conversation with myself in the past during beta, I would think this would be something relevant that I would tell myself. Though I too was excited about the changes, I am finding that I prefer some of the older systems better.  This is a matter of personal preference.

There was no misinformation. To be honest, you did jump on this and it was kind of trollish of you.

Yeah, I know what you said: you said that after trying GW2's system, you regret the WoW clone gear grind model. You actually realized you like to grind for stats. I never said it was wrong or right, I just said I'm happy that for a change, GW2 is NOT based on that model, I'm aware some people need the gear carrot and won't like it.

All I was doing is fixing the misinformation you gave about the inability to "play the economy", which is blatantly wrong. YOU may not have been able to "play the economy" in GW2, but if people managed to do it, then it IS possible, and what you said is therefore obviously wrong. Note that I don't play the economy either, but I don't do that in any game, it's not my thing, yet I'm not here saying that because I don't do it, it's not possible.

And I will ignore the last sentence of your post for now, but know that retaliation is forbidden on this forum, and that includes what you did in that last sentence. I'd remove that before a moderator sees it (and then I'll remove this part of my post too, and this comment).

To which I replied, "And no, this isn't a good economy to play. Nearly every item sells for almost what it does to a vendor. The auction house being across multiple servers makes lots of surpluses rather than shortages. Sure you can play it, but it is not nearly as interesting." This is why the game, for me, is a poor game to play the economy. Again this was a conversation that I would be having with myself. There was no "misinformation" here.

I won't remove my last statement, because I wasn't attacking you. I just stated that your actions appear to be kind of trollish. I personally have nothing against you. I just think you jumped on my post like I was a hater and all I was saying was what I would tell myself. Unlike other people on this forum, I am not trying to convince anyone as to whether they should like a game or not. Just play your game.

I would be happy to discuss why I think the economy is weak, but that would have to be another thread and I have no desire to derail this thread further. 

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Creslin4321
I would tell myself that in the future, people on MMORPG.com will find many creative ways to rehash the same old subject of "Do you like/hate GW2?"  Because apparently, letting people know your opinion on the game 500 times is very, very important.

You know your post count is creeping up again....before you know it you'll be a spotlight poster.

Problem is you actually have to post something interesting and constructive to get that title not flounce around like a big girls blouse deleting accounts and making new ones becuase someone somewhere posted a bad thing about their favorite game. Look at this thread MMOExposed asked a fun question (its has time travel in it whats more fun than that?) that can be answered in many different ways and what do the fans of the game do? accuse him and others of being haters, says it all really.

Originally posted by Calerxes

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Creslin4321
I would tell myself that in the future, people on MMORPG.com will find many creative ways to rehash the same old subject of "Do you like/hate GW2?"  Because apparently, letting people know your opinion on the game 500 times is very, very important.

You know your post count is creeping up again....before you know it you'll be a spotlight poster.

 

Problem is you actually have to post something interesting and constructive to get that title not flounce around like a big girls blouse deleting accounts and making new ones becuase someone somewhere posted a bad thing about their favorite game. Look at this thread MMOExposed asked a fun question (its has time travel in it whats more fun than that?) that can be answered in many different ways and what do the fans of the game do? accuse him and others of being haters, says it all really.

Well first, I didn't accuse him of being a hater.  All I said was that this thread was just another way for people to state whether they like GW2 or not.  And come on, you know it is.  There are only two main answers that people will give to this question and they are:

1.  I would tell myself to definitely buy GW2 = I like GW2.

2.  I would tell myself to not buy GW2 = I don't like GW2.

Also...in order to be a spotlight poster I think you have to post in the pub.  It just means that one of your threads was put "In the spotlight" (stickied) by the mods.

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

"You can buy the game without thinking twice, it's the best value for money for a MMORPG since a long, long time."

Agreed, very well said.

Originally posted by Creslin4321

Originally posted by Calerxes

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Creslin4321
I would tell myself that in the future, people on MMORPG.com will find many creative ways to rehash the same old subject of "Do you like/hate GW2?"  Because apparently, letting people know your opinion on the game 500 times is very, very important.

You know your post count is creeping up again....before you know it you'll be a spotlight poster.

 

Problem is you actually have to post something interesting and constructive to get that title not flounce around like a big girls blouse deleting accounts and making new ones becuase someone somewhere posted a bad thing about their favorite game. Look at this thread MMOExposed asked a fun question (its has time travel in it whats more fun than that?) that can be answered in many different ways and what do the fans of the game do? accuse him and others of being haters, says it all really.

Well first, I didn't accuse him of being a hater.  All I said was that this thread was just another way for people to state whether they like GW2 or not.  And come on, you know it is.  There are only two main answers that people will give to this question and they are:

1.  I would tell myself to definitely buy GW2 = I like GW2.

2.  I would tell myself to not buy GW2 = I don't like GW2.

Also...in order to be a spotlight poster I think you have to post in the pub.  It just means that one of your threads was put "In the spotlight" (stickied) by the mods.

I didn't mean you personally with the accusation of hater towards MMOExposed it was a general comment as to the really tetchy nature of GW2 fans. I'm giving MMOExposed the benefit of the doubt here because he hasn't been around these forums lately and I think its a fun interesting question whether the game has or hasn't lived up to their expectations and it also gives room to be imaginative with your answers but fans are not seeing that way as always seems the case, lighten up and have some fun its only a game after all.

And yes that is how you get the Spotlight Poster title and some of us are proud of it so we display it.

Originally posted by Underbridge

Originally posted by Zzad

Originally posted by Underbridge
I would tell myself that there was a reason that the betas only lasted a weekend, and that was because if it went any longer, we would have realized how shallow the game was and that there really is no end game.

What´s up with this "there is no end-game" bull***?

GW2 offers the exact same end-game than any other MMO in the market except  for Raiding....

and we all knew it wasn´t going to have Raids long before it launched.

Maybe some of you should simply tell your "own self" in the "time travel" to read better the previews and info about the game....

No it doesn't. It doesn't have a "epic" gear or rare skills  to obtain.

Have you heard of "Legendary Weapons"? 

Again if cosmetic rewards are not enough for you.... it´s ok...but it was well known before launch that GW2 does not have gear grinding as in WoW where you need better & better stats to keep on going.

I still think some (a lot) of you were expecting a WoW 2.0...and no folks...GW2 is not that.

Originally posted by Zzad

Originally posted by Underbridge

Originally posted by Zzad

Originally posted by Underbridge
I would tell myself that there was a reason that the betas only lasted a weekend, and that was because if it went any longer, we would have realized how shallow the game was and that there really is no end game.

What´s up with this "there is no end-game" bull***?

GW2 offers the exact same end-game than any other MMO in the market except  for Raiding....

and we all knew it wasn´t going to have Raids long before it launched.

Maybe some of you should simply tell your "own self" in the "time travel" to read better the previews and info about the game....

No it doesn't. It doesn't have a "epic" gear or rare skills  to obtain.

Have you heard of "Legendary Weapons"? 

Again if cosmetic rewards are not enough for you.... it´s ok...but it was well known before launch that GW2 does not have gear grinding as in WoW where you need better & better stats to keep on going.

I still think some (a lot) of you were expecting a WoW 2.0...and no folks...GW2 is not that.

Lots of people were guaranteeing GW2 would still have a holy trinity a few days before release and when we said it wouldn't they wouldn't believe it.

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Originally posted by MosesZD

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Originally posted by MMOExposed If you could travel back in time and tell the Pre-GW2-Beta "You" something about GW2, what would you tell yourself?

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  Stay away from these forums as the troll-ratio is too high....   Which is why I rarely come here anymore...

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lol rarely come here but look at your post count for the amount of time you have been active hehe.

I would say this:

"You ignorant fool, do you really expect that this game will be fun, even after all the warning signs. Signs you ask ? Yes, they are everywhere, you just choose to ignore them. Of course... You want to start fresh, with no prejudices or hype but there is no excuse for being ignorant.  Yes most of us are bored! Buying GW2 however, will only make it worse. Don't pull a second SWTOR bro....."

I still feel my purchase was more a personal failure than a money loss. Oh well, guess I had to find out the hard way D:

In addition to my previous post, I would also suggest that I make sure I have time set aside to respond when I make a thread which might be controversial, so I don't come back to a locked thread with no chance to better explain my point.

Oh, and I'd also tell myself to not eat chicken from McDonalds.