Originally posted by MindTrigger
Meh, this is cool and all, but on a list of game-improving sandbox features, I'm not sure this would be in my top ten

Yeah, it was cool in LotRO (a lot more simplistic there though), but it's not something you spend that much time doing.  This is the sort of fluff system that would be cool once more and deeper systems were already in place.

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by MindTrigger Meh, this is cool and all, but on a list of game-improving sandbox features, I'm not sure this would be in my top ten

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Yeah, it was cool in LotRO (a lot more simplistic there though), but it's not something you spend that much time doing.  This is the sort of fluff system that would be cool once more and deeper systems were already in place.

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TSW hits the nail on the head for me as far as atmosphere goes, if they can keep that strength going with additions like this and attract new players, all power to them. Never expected this to be more than a niche title that grows, I hope that happens for them, I think this game really deserves a growing audience.

Originally posted by MindTrigger
Meh, this is cool and all, but on a list of game-improving sandbox features, I'm not sure this would be in my top ten

Well they said they "had designs on the table," for more player generated content. I hope this is the first of more to come. 

Create a battle ground?

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by MindTrigger
Meh, this is cool and all, but on a list of game-improving sandbox features, I'm not sure this would be in my top ten

Well they said they "had designs on the table," for more player generated content. I hope this is the first of more to come. 

Create a battle ground?

How about player created missions and story arcs with a design tool that rivals the STO and Neverwinter foundry.  I think that would go over big in a game like this and be a huge hit with both RP Storytellers and hack-n-slashers.

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by bcbully

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Originally posted by MindTrigger Meh, this is cool and all, but on a list of game-improving sandbox features, I'm not sure this would be in my top ten

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Well they said they "had designs on the table," for more player generated content. I hope this is the first of more to come.  Create a battle ground?

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How about player created missions and story arcs with a design tool that rivals the STO and Neverwinter foundry.  I think that would go over big in a game like this and be a huge hit with both RP Storytellers and hack-n-slashers.

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Originally posted by Foomerang
Out of all these new mmos, tsw needs player housing the most. Put up an apartment building or two in each hub city. The setting calls for a place to call home. I mean, the game starts out with you in your house.

Housing another good idea.  I know we had a recent pro/con thread about housing, and there are those who would disagree with me, but I think every MMO should have housing of some sort.  There is so much potential for integration with the rest of the game.  Housing can be integrated into nearly every single aspect.  EQ2 is a pretty good example of what can be done as was SWG (although open world housing needs to be well designed or it can look stupid).

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Originally posted by rmk70
I'm a bit amazed by all the MMOs jumping on the 'sandbox' bandwagon. Next stream of MMOs will be all sandbox, like the last were themepark. If solid MMO sandbox came out 4 years ago, it would have done so well. Now we will be saturated... 

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Originally posted by Torvaldr

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Originally posted by Foomerang Out of all these new mmos, tsw needs player housing the most. Put up an apartment building or two in each hub city. The setting calls for a place to call home. I mean, the game starts out with you in your house.

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Housing another good idea.  I know we had a recent pro/con thread about housing, and there are those who would disagree with me, but I think every MMO should have housing of some sort.  There is so much potential for integration with the rest of the game.  Housing can be integrated into nearly every single aspect.  EQ2 is a pretty good example of what can be done as was SWG (although open world housing needs to be well designed or it can look stupid).

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Well, Anarchy Online has player Housing (well apartments) and guild cities (for Alien Invasions). AoC has guild cities (there's even whores and drunks in them) which actually require Architecture tradeskill to make and a LOT of materials.

So why not TSW?

This actually sounds great!  I'll be looking forward to seeing how this works out.

MMOs need more of these types of systems.

Sounds great - I only wish the developers considered the casual player when they designed this game - too overwhelming with skills, abilities, weapons, etc.....

Originally posted by larrypsy

Sounds great - I only wish the developers considered the casual player when they designed this game - too overwhelming with skills, abilities, weapons, etc.....

Good timing!  Patch 1.4 is coming out with starter decks that will make the ability wheel a bit easier.

Originally posted by Scot
It is looking up, I stand by my possition of not joining at launch and waiting for some updates. Thats not rocket science in a industry that has released every MMO too early since Lotro. 

Yeah, it's not a bad strategy necessarily to wait a little time to work out the kinks.  The new zone (Tokyo) is coming out I think in January.  New raid, missions and many PvP fixes in this next patch as well, not to mention The Albion Theater for RPers (and spectators.)

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Originally posted by Ortwig

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Originally posted by larrypsy Sounds great - I only wish the developers considered the casual player when they designed this game - too overwhelming with skills, abilities, weapons, etc.....

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Good timing!  Patch 1.4 is coming out with starter decks that will make the ability wheel a bit easier.

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Originally posted by Kenze

 

Originally posted by Ortwig

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Originally posted by larrypsy Sounds great - I only wish the developers considered the casual player when they designed this game - too overwhelming with skills, abilities, weapons, etc.....

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Good timing!  Patch 1.4 is coming out with starter decks that will make the ability wheel a bit easier.

didn't the game already have starter decks? are they fixing combat too?

They've made introductory decks that make it much easier for new players.  See:

http://forums.thesecretworld.com/showthread.php?t=60952

Not sure what you mean by "fixing combat."  Animations?  Abilities?  PvP?  Animations were improved over beta, and are an ongoing work in progress, but if you mean some core mechanic, let me know what you mean.