Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

Originally posted by calranthe
From what I understand you can setup your own private server and thus pvp/gank/grief will only happen if you play on the public servers or allow it on yours.

If you are going to do that, than why play WarZ?

 

DayZ is free (if you have Arma2 already).

Because believe it or not, most people who play do not enjoy what PvP is right now in WarZ.

Private servers would be an excellent alternative for people who aren't into PvP all the time.  They can join servers tailored to their desired playstle.

DayZ is not free, you have to buy ARMA first.  I'm tired of people saying that.  Most people bought ARMA to play DayZ.

Originally posted by GolbezTheLion

6 year old account, first post.

Nuff said.

GolbezTheLion: 9/27/12 account,  mainly used to spread lies to defend the current state of a game, insulting people not agreeing with him and giving mmorpg.com extra moderation work... Sad.

Originally posted by Popori

Originally posted by Jakdstripper
i was midly interested until i found out that zombies are not attracted by sound of gunshots(wtf?)...... AND you can buy bullets/food/lives on the cash shop.....okeeeyyyy so it's cash shop CoD with some zombies walking arround. not for me.

You're wrong on every aspect of your post.

Zombies react to gunshots and footsteps, moreso than sight.

Bullets/Food/Lives are bought off currency that only comes off of dead zombies.  At this time it's unable to be looted from your corpse as well.

The game has a ton of flaws but you're completely uninformed and I just wanted to clarify on that.

Once grouping/clans are implemented, fewer players will be walking around solo and it will be less likely that you'll run into as much random hostility when more is at stake.

That being said, I strongly suggest waiting a few months for stuff to be better prepared/presented.  It was a very poor decision to open sales at this point, as the game really needs more of its planned systems implemented to be more than a deathmatch.

Your response is not entirely accurate.

You can't buy lives or revives off of the marketplace right now.  Yes, you can buy food, weapons(melee) and some high end ammo and scopes from founders money that you recieve when you purchase your way into the alpha.

Also, what makes you think it's less likely to be attacked when there are groups?  You don't think PK's won't bring their friends?  Didn't think that one through did you?

I do agree that it shouldn't have been released yet.  THere is a lot of work to do.  For all of the advancements that they made over DayZ, DayZ still has a lot of things that WarZ doesn't.  Like water jugs that you can fill at ponds and wells, wildlife and butchering/cooking, tents, automobiles and a MUCH larger and much more detailed map.  Well, that and all of the hacking, server hopping and PvP issues that weren't fixed in the transition.

They have a lot of work to do to.

When I tried out the beta I was amazed at the amount of people that just didnt give a crap and would blow you up right away. WELL LET ME TELL YOU I became one of those people too! HAHA! A zombie wasnt even a threat any more. If I saw some one out and about I would just blow them up.I was done getting railed by people who I thought wanted to group.

SORRY if I blew you up. But this game I wont be purchasing , due to the fact that there are other better FPS's out there. Planetside2 anyone?

Originally posted by DAS1337

Originally posted by Redemp

I'd say just avoid it due to the new hacks that have been released. Games worse than APB was in regards to hackers.

Once the fix the hacks, I'll give it another look ... as it is now I'm tempted to request a refund.

 

Man, I find that comment so funny.

 

I loved APB when it was with RTW.  I never saw a hacker, not once.  I really do like what WarZ has to offer.  I have yet to see a hacker, and I've been playing since the 15th of October.

 

I know hackers are there, there is plenty of complaining going on for it not to be.  I just haven't seen it and to me, it doesn't appear to be as prevelant as people say it is.  

 

It's a new game, the hackers will filter out into other games eventually.

Did not see a cheater in APB?? Sorry man, either you did not play much, or you sir, are blind, figuratively. 

Originally posted by Ginaz
A zombie survival game where the zombies are a trivial threat?  Pass.

HAhahah...so true;

well i've been playing war z since 15th october and so far i've enjoyed it alot! really addicting. Let me explain! First week i spent playing alone, exploring and killing stuff around, it was fun, but i spent most of my time dead, cause let's face it, in a post-apocaliptic world you can't survive on your own.. but it weren't the zombies killing me, it was mean people even if i only had a flashlight they would take me down.. since i had no friends playing war z, i decided to find a clan, and let me tell you, this is where the fun starts!! all the tactics, really feels like a survival game, and yea we take down people, i only care about my group its like my family. so to sum up, to play this game you need friends, which makes it really fun!

About hackers.. first week i didn't see any, just a couple glitchers, second week i saw a couple hackers not many, cause i heard something about devs updating some patch that prevented some hacks to be usable. but then this last week until now, its hackers everywhere, and dont tell me it's not true, my clan and i play everyday for lot of hours, and we're usually a 10 man party, yes we take 1/4 of the server xD so yea we cover pretty much every spot in the map and we switch servers alot cause there's hackers everywhere, been impossible to play.

overall this game still needs alot of work, but grab yer friends and get on teamspeak and you'll see how fun it can be!

Originally posted by WolfClaws

Originally posted by DAS1337

Originally posted by Redemp

I'd say just avoid it due to the new hacks that have been released. Games worse than APB was in regards to hackers.

Once the fix the hacks, I'll give it another look ... as it is now I'm tempted to request a refund.

 

Man, I find that comment so funny.

 

I loved APB when it was with RTW.  I never saw a hacker, not once.  I really do like what WarZ has to offer.  I have yet to see a hacker, and I've been playing since the 15th of October.

 

I know hackers are there, there is plenty of complaining going on for it not to be.  I just haven't seen it and to me, it doesn't appear to be as prevelant as people say it is.  

 

It's a new game, the hackers will filter out into other games eventually.

 

Did not see a cheater in APB?? Sorry man, either you did not play much, or you sir, are blind, figuratively. 

Yeah APB RTW days was very cheater friendly, that's part of the reason why it died.

Nowadays under G1/Reloaded, not so much. Anti-cheat measures and crackdowns has been pretty prevalent. That's part of the reason why it is still going.

Originally posted by Ginaz
A zombie survival game where the zombies are a trivial threat?  Pass.

They just had a damage buff today, and were not trivial by any means previously, unless you were fully geared with a vest and armored helmet with decent weapons.

Originally posted by DAS1337

 DayZ is not free, you have to buy ARMA first.  I'm tired of people saying that.  Most people bought ARMA to play DayZ.

It is free if you already have Armas2, lol. I got Armas2 to play Armas2. DayZ was a nice addition.

You don't HAVE to do anything if you don't want to.

The OP obvously doesn't know what he is talking about, they pushed beta back to Nov 30th abd the game is still in Alpha.

I guarentee 100% the OP bought the game with the attitude that he/she would play it as a released game and not as an Alpha where you constantly look for bugs, exploits and glitches and report them to the devs ASAP. (most people are having this problem distinguishing between Alpha and a released game)

This is the problem with allowing people to buy in to Alpha testing, they skip the testing part.

Originally posted by halflife25
I always avoid indie free for all pvp full loot games without any consequences for killing players,. But thanks for suggestion.

Doesn't have to be indie either

Originally posted by goflish

The OP obvously doesn't know what he is talking about, they pushed beta back to Nov 30th abd the game is still in Alpha.

I guarentee 100% the OP bought the game with the attitude that he/she would play it as a released game and not as an Alpha where you constantly look for bugs, exploits and glitches and report them to the devs ASAP. (most people are having this problem distinguishing between Alpha and a released game)

This is the problem with allowing people to buy in to Alpha testing, they skip the testing part.

Yes but whose fault is that?

Seriously? Back in the day game testers were paid, then they were selected- Today they pay to test...Companies seem to want their Cake and eat it too- Get some initial funds and free game testers at the same time.

By opening this door to "pay to test" they do NOT get testers- They get " players"- So the bad PR is their own fault.

-That said, you are correct- But again, where does the fault lie?

EDIT: Back in the day Beta testers actually fillled out applications. A company wanted folks with different specs and experience. Today they just want cash- Period. And this is the result. Poorly tested games, bad PR, etc, etc...

I heard someone saying that The WarZ is not an mmo.

Let me guess, its not an mmo because zombies dont drop gold and an epic great Sword? So let me guess again, if its too realistic, it cannot be an mmo right?

I mean come on, its not because its something you never found in a mmo or so different that it means that its not one of them. The wow generation is too soft for that game, but they dont know yet. So they come here saying how bad the game is with the wrong mindset.

The difference between this and other mmo's is the fact that bears wont drop anything. its perma death. If you never heard of perma death, then you probably never tried Diablo. This time, its perma death in a open world pvp and you also have the choice to avoid that by playing on normal instead of hardcore.

Now, you can always join a clan if you dont want to die all the time. In a mmo, you're suppose to socialize, but there's so much cave trolls playing mmo's, that they get loss when their last option to survive is to socialize so instead of trying to group up, they end up whining in the forum when they should be looking for a guild instead.

Finally, the real reason you're not forced to kill any zombies, is simply cuz the game is not complete. The zombies are retarded right now. They cant see you when they're not really far and they cant reall hear the sound of a gun. Just like days, these things will change and you will be forced to kill a wave of zombies to survive just like and left for dead.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

I heard someone saying that The WarZ is not an mmo.

Let me guess, its not an mmo because zombies dont drop gold and an epic great Sword? So let me guess again, if its too realistic, it cannot be an mmo right?

I mean come on, its not because its something you never found in a mmo or so different that it means that its not one of them. The wow generation is too soft for that game, but they dont know yet. So they come here saying how bad the game is with the wrong mindset.

 

 

The difference between this and other mmo's is the fact that bears wont drop anything. its perma death. If you never heard of perma death, then you probably never tried Diablo. This time, its perma death in a open world pvp and you also have the choice to avoid that by playing on normal instead of hardcore.

Now, you can always join a clan if you dont want to die all the time. In a mmo, you're suppose to socialize, but there's so much cave trolls playing mmo's, that they get loss when their last option to survive is to socialize so instead of trying to group up, they end up whining in the forum when they should be looking for a guild instead.

 

Finally, the real reason you're not forced to kill any zombies, is simply cuz the game is not complete. The zombies are retarded right now. They cant see you when they're not really far and they cant reall hear the sound of a gun. Just like days, these things will change and you will be forced to kill a wave of zombies to survive just like and left for dead.

Hmmmm- It IS maybe an MMO . I am pretty sure nobody claims otherwise- Its NOT an MMORPG but more of an MMOFPS. And theres permadeath? I thought you just couldnt log back in for 24 hours which is NOT permadeath. But even MMO has the word "massivly" so I am not positive this qualifies anymore than Team Fortress 2- But IDK, havnt played and am basing my opinion on what I read.

And Diablo is not an MMORPG either.

Originally posted by SaintPhilip

Originally posted by goflish

The OP obvously doesn't know what he is talking about, they pushed beta back to Nov 30th abd the game is still in Alpha.

I guarentee 100% the OP bought the game with the attitude that he/she would play it as a released game and not as an Alpha where you constantly look for bugs, exploits and glitches and report them to the devs ASAP. (most people are having this problem distinguishing between Alpha and a released game)

This is the problem with allowing people to buy in to Alpha testing, they skip the testing part.

Yes but whose fault is that?

Seriously? Back in the day game testers were paid, then they were selected- Today they pay to test...Companies seem to want their Cake and eat it too- Get some initial funds and free game testers at the same time.

By opening this door to "pay to test" they do NOT get testers- They get " players"- So the bad PR is their own fault.

-That said, you are correct- But again, where does the fault lie?

EDIT: Back in the day Beta testers actually fillled out applications. A company wanted folks with different specs and experience. Today they just want cash- Period. And this is the result. Poorly tested games, bad PR, etc, etc...

Ummm... what about indie games? I never heard about any paid beta testers for indie games. They pay beta testers for big companies like EA and stuff like that.

Also, they can test the game themselves. They only need a bunch of players to check the server stability. Ppl need to get informed, seriously..

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Originally posted by SaintPhilip

Originally posted by goflish

The OP obvously doesn't know what he is talking about, they pushed beta back to Nov 30th abd the game is still in Alpha.

I guarentee 100% the OP bought the game with the attitude that he/she would play it as a released game and not as an Alpha where you constantly look for bugs, exploits and glitches and report them to the devs ASAP. (most people are having this problem distinguishing between Alpha and a released game)

This is the problem with allowing people to buy in to Alpha testing, they skip the testing part.

Yes but whose fault is that?

Seriously? Back in the day game testers were paid, then they were selected- Today they pay to test...Companies seem to want their Cake and eat it too- Get some initial funds and free game testers at the same time.

By opening this door to "pay to test" they do NOT get testers- They get " players"- So the bad PR is their own fault.

-That said, you are correct- But again, where does the fault lie?

EDIT: Back in the day Beta testers actually fillled out applications. A company wanted folks with different specs and experience. Today they just want cash- Period. And this is the result. Poorly tested games, bad PR, etc, etc...

Ummm... what about indie games? I never heard about any paid beta testers for indie games. They pay beta testers for big companies like EA and stuff like that.

Also, they can test the game themselves. They only need a bunch of players to check the server stability. Ppl need to get informed, seriously..

What people "need to get informed"?

Checking server stability is a stress test (not a beta)... And I said back in the day game testers were paid and then they were volenteers but filled out applications.

Indie or not- These people are paying to test and thus are usually very sub par testers who only want early access. And this is why people "want their money back" and have given this (or any oother pay to test game) a terrible name, bad PR, break NDA's etc, etc, etc.

-Its the truth. Look at the forums and tell me these people are "testers" adhering to an NDA and not giving bad PR.