Originally posted by Zylaxx

Simply put theres an old adage my Mom used to tell me:  "If you dont have anything nice to say about someone or something, then dont open your mouth".

 You`ve talked down plenty of games before, you just can`t handle people talking down your game. Just makes you come off as a hypocrit(like most of GW2s rabid defenders).

Originally posted by Kalstark

Originally posted by Alber_gamer

So what you ask is that people should not voice their opinion on a game after they feel scammed, but the contrary, saying GW2 is great, is all fine.

 

You know, these are opinion forums, and nobody is wrong. Those who don't like the game are right in saying the game is awful, and those that like it are right in saying that the game is great. All you have to do is to learn to respect everyone's opinions, and if anyone's opinions are contrary to your own, either debate them politely or ignore them. Attempting to insult people's intelligence because of voicing their gaming preferences just makes you a troll.

actually buddy heres where your wrong, if someones "opinion" is complete bull sh1t and they are just hating to hate, then no there opinion doesnt matter. also your acting like the OP was being an ass hole, he wasnt at all and your statement is exactly wat a god dam troll is, someone b1tching about nothing for no reason. so while you tried to sound real intelligent acting like you know what your talking about you dont, and you my friend are a idiot. well if idont like gw2 because its not halo does my opinion matter? no i would be a jack a$s. if you dont like the game dont play it and dont talk about it. honestly what is your goal but to find other morons like yourself so you can feel better? in all honesty you guys need each other cuz ur lifes must be pathetic. as someone above said, HATERS GON' HATE, thats all theyre good for hating,GO  F|_|CK YOURSELFs. and bill murphy how about u put this for the community spotlight, why people who know all the details about a game and then when the game launches they complain that the game isnt how they wanted it to be and that they were dissapointed. god dam i cant stand you people especially SWG fans who wont stop posting every god dam minute about sandbox and themeparks. NO1 PLAYED THAT SH1TY GAME, seriously i admit im hating on swg but for christ sake how many people actually played that? before i got into mmo's i knew that game sucked thats how bad it was and now every post has something to do with sandbox and swg. F all of U 

 

and a side note im not really hating on SWG i honestly have no idea how it was but i do remember hearing that it was one of the worst games ever made and no1 really played it and i just hate all the people who constantly post how it was amazing and every game should be like it haha. 

 Kids these days. No idea what they are even writing.

Honestly, everything you said is exactly what you were saying Alber_Gamer was doing but in a much more dramatic, moronic, completely useless fashion. You even brought up SWG and started hating on it for some `bullsh1t` reason when it doesn`t even relate to the topic.

Enjoy your temp-ban for that post.

Originally posted by grimal

It's called hype backlash.  The bigger the hype, the harder the fall.

If this game was not as hyped up as it was, you would see a lot less grumbling (I know, I know, there was no hype because it was all true...and people knew exactly the kind of game it was because they played the BWEs.....)

*DING*

It was very hyped and very anticipated. It certainly isn't a failure and doesn't have as many things wrong with it as SWTOR did. However, as someone else astutely pointed out, for everything it gets right, it also gets a lot wrong. Aside from game 'problems', ANet has periodically made some PR mis-steps and has come off very antagonistic at times with the community, which is VERY at odds with their history. Very much like how GW1 was different than a lot of games, GW2 is different. Some people thought they were getting one thing and they got something else entirely. 

There are valid criticisms to be made about GW2 and ANet.

The "problem" is not specific to GW2 forums. WoW is the favorite target of those people for 8 years now.

What I will say here is only for the "serial haters", those who post daily on the forums of games they hate, over and over again, repeating the same often agressive arguments. It doesn't concern the guy who posted his negative review, stopped playing, and also stopped posting until he eventually plays again, those persons are mature and just fine.

- Some people are just insecure about their own decisions, and they need back patting and approval from others to validate it, so they go on a crusade of negativity, posting more on the hated game's forum than on forums of games they like and in which they could participate positively. Typical post would be "Bored with the game", and then a few days later "Is it just me, or is the game failing?", and another few days later "I've quit, who else?" - and it doesn't stop there of course, it will continue until the eventual ban, if it ever happens.

- Some are pissed that their favorite game had less success than the hated game, they think it's unfair, that their game is the best ever, and therefore they must go on a crusade against the unfairly popular game. You see that in other domains like movies too. A good example would be the supposed TSW fans who post more here than on the TSW forums, you know who they are. A couple of Tera fans do the same too. And then, the eternal sandbox fans, of course, but those bash anything not a sandbox anyway.

- Some other people just like to troll, being annoying, and are generally delighted when they make other people angry or miserable. They do that on the net hidden behind a computer screen of course, because face to face, there are way to many possible negative consequences for being a nuisance. Examples abound, no need for specific ones here, it's basically posts made just to "stir the pot".

For many, it's a percentage of all three points combined.

The real question is why anyone bashes any game on these forums.? or OP is trying to tell us that some how GW2 is above crtici...errr i mean bashing?

You reap what you sow bro. GW2 fans have been riling up fans of every other MMO on this site for almost a year now. This backlash is their way of returning the favor and getting under your skin.

The guy above me is perfect example of what i am saying.

there are 3 kinds of people..

gw1 people who were calm, knew what to expect from gw2 and were nicely excited

people who think logical, didnt get to excited but certainly would try the game to see how much they would like it

people who "OMG GW2 IS GOING TO KILL ALL OTHER MMORPGS, ITS GOING TO BE AMAZING AND REVOLUTIONAIR AND EVERYONE WILL PLAY IT AND NO FLAWS WILL EVER BE FOUND" .... that

now.. guess which of the 3 kinds of people is bashing at gw2?

:P

I see bashing as someone posting things like "LOLZ GW2 sucks" "It' clearly dying" "WOW clone" "worst game ever" "It's in a tail spin", etc.

Basically, threads that don't discuss anything at all, just make a vague comments attacking the game.

Now, pointing out flaws and problems the gam might be facing, from questing, dungeons, story, bugs, bots, pvp, zerging, progression, etc, is perfectly valid discussion IMO. I do agree the somtimes teh same topic like the above appear multyple times and can be annoying, but that doesn't invalidate their point.

Also, your points mean nothing really. The game may be AAA and have enough content for you, and the B2P may be perfect aswel, but to many, it's not so.

Originally posted by khameleon

It has way too easy PVE where you can solo 1-80, makes the game feel like an offline game and does not engage you in the world to care about anyone else or anything else but you.

Is there a cheat that I am unaware of, how the hell do you solo any boss when the system drops you from what ever level you are to that of the area you are in with the boss being over powered because this is a group play game. If you not sure what I'm talking about, try a squishy necro character against any boss solo!

Originally posted by zastroph

Originally posted by khameleon

It has way too easy PVE where you can solo 1-80, makes the game feel like an offline game and does not engage you in the world to care about anyone else or anything else but you.

Is there a cheat that I am unaware of, how the hell do you solo any boss when the system drops you from what ever level you are to that of the area you are in with the boss being over powered because this is a group play game. If you not sure what I'm talking about, try a squishy necro character against any boss solo!

Is fighting boss necessary to solo from lvl 1 to 80? i leveld my first character pretty much solo doing hearts and only half of the DE chains because the bosses pop up on the end chain of DE's. There are plenty of events that can be soloed. I was working graveyard shifts so played off time and had no trouble hitting 80.

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by stevebmbsqd

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by stevebmbsqd

 

If a ton of people say something....there must be some truth to it.....

yup just like wow is the worst mmo ever made.. see that thrown around here all the time.. MUST be true though

I suppose to a lot of people it must be.....  I wonder how many tens of millions have unsubscribed over the years??????

sure TONS have doesn't stop it from being one of the most popular MMOs ever even after all those years.. point is take anything anyone says here with a grain of salt.. but figured that was a given...

i dont think popular meens good though. look at the keeping up with the Kardashians numbers. or the real housewives of ( add city here) Very popular shows but are consider by many to be the sespool of entertainment. Spinger and Maury show have huge mumbers but is some of the worst tv in history. Just like GW2, they are a quick "fix" to fill your day with entertainment.

EDIT: My comparison on GW2 to these shows was to point out that GW2 is ment for that quick log in and play for 10 mins then log out. Was in no way intended to compared to those shows as if GW2 was a POS lol.

i just wanted to clear that up before i got bashed.

SFS

It's been funny to watch Creslin's approach to inconsolable GW2 bashers (many people post real criticisms; I'm talking about posters who are clearly just bashing, or who perhaps have real criticisms but are so inarticulate that they simply cannot express them or even properly identify the logical foundations for those criticisms) change from detailed, well-reasonsed responses filled with honest counter arguments using actual, you know, arguments, to expressions of infuriated indignation, and now to casual sarcastic dismissal.  

Perhap it's just his day to day mood, or maybe...

He is evolving!

/sigh @ players nowadays

GW2 just came out...what do you expect? To have EVERYTHING like player housing etc. etc.? 

Unlike WoW and some other games which had couple of years to evolve, this game is new and is still releasing content. It would be very stupid of the devs to release ALL ideas at once (expansions). Also GW2's philosophy is to release polished content (note: not bugfree). 

Here's a link https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/november-2012/

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

There is plenty of content for everyone?

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

The same reason why people hate on things like: Walmart, Nickelback, Wall St, and Starbucks.  A large segment of the population just hate anything successful and popular.

you presume to much.

I like walmart.

I hate nickelback

Im indifferent about wall st

I hate Starbucks

Now unless i told you, you wouldnt know why i like or dislike these things. So dont just say a large segment of the population hates anything successful or popular because in fact you really dont know. Your projecting your opinion as facts again.

Originally posted by 1vald2

/sigh @ players nowadays

GW2 just came out...what do you expect? To have EVERYTHING like player housing etc. etc.? 

Unlike WoW and some other games which had couple of years to evolve, this game is new and is still releasing content. It would be very stupid of the devs to release ALL ideas at once (expansions). Also GW2's philosophy is to release polished content (note: not bugfree). 

Here's a link https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/november-2012/

 

Lol.......

Originally posted by xAPOCx

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

There is plenty of content for everyone?

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

The same reason why people hate on things like: Walmart, Nickelback, Wall St, and Starbucks.  A large segment of the population just hate anything successful and popular.

you presume to much.

 

I like walmart.

I hate nickelback

Im indifferent about wall st

I hate Starbucks

 

Now unless i told you, you wouldnt know why i like or dislike these things. So dont just say a large segment of the population hates anything successful or popular because in fact you really dont know. Your projecting your opinion as facts again.

 

 

some people do hate things for being successful.  http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101116231928AAjXS12

im curious as to why you hate starbucks?

Originally posted by xAPOCx

EDIT: My comparison on GW2 to these shows was to point out that GW2 is ment for that quick log in and play for 10 mins then log out. Was in no way intended to compared to those shows as if GW2 was a POS lol.

So when many guildies (including myself) play up to 6+ hours a day during week ends, we are doing something wrong...

Sorry man, but your play style isn't by any means a general rule ;)

Originally posted by muffins89

Originally posted by xAPOCx

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Torgrim

GW2 is a AAA product right?

There is plenty of content for everyone?

You are not forced into a roll in a dungeon run?

You are not forced to play in your homeland you can travel and meet up friends right?

Ohh, did I forget to say It's buy and play.

Guild Wars 2 have huge amount of content for players to experince when they buy the game and still this game is attacked from all side like a common sub game.

Why is that?

The same reason why people hate on things like: Walmart, Nickelback, Wall St, and Starbucks.  A large segment of the population just hate anything successful and popular.

you presume to much.

 

I like walmart.

I hate nickelback

Im indifferent about wall st

I hate Starbucks

 

Now unless i told you, you wouldnt know why i like or dislike these things. So dont just say a large segment of the population hates anything successful or popular because in fact you really dont know. Your projecting your opinion as facts again.

 

 

some people do hate things for being successful.  http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101116231928AAjXS12

 

im curious as to why you hate starbucks?

Yes some people do hate on popular things ( for there own reasons)  but he said a LARGE Segment of the population...

Also i hate coffee and spending money so a shop that charges outragous prices for coffee gets added to my hate list =)

GW2 have probably the worst and most defensive fanbase on this site. THere is more threads about why peole bash the game then there are thread actually bashing...

Every critizism against GW2 is met with a bunch of fans  blaming "themepark burnout" .. just lol...

Ive even seen fans saying that not having mounts is a PRO not a con.. unbelievable.

GW2 is just a solid game without a monthly sub.

Theres always idiots that will bash every single game on the market . Its a bit pathetic really but I'm sure in thier heads they are legends .