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General Discussion  » I really don't understand the bashing against GW2

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  eyelolled

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11/03/12 9:33:52 PM#341
Originally posted by lifeordinary
Originally posted by Torgrim
Great post and well written.

+1

Yeah sure. it is great post and well written because it confirms with your own opinions. Not that there are not other well written posts among 30 pages of dribble.

Even though he is completely wrong about players getting confused on opening the map because things are not marked for them. I don't know what game he is talking about. GW2 holds hand of players and guide them like any other themepark MMO. As usual trying to make GW2 look more complex than it really is.

Feeling sorry for those who dislike GW2? why? because they have different taste? 

Fans defending the game not out of loyalty but because people state false facts? really? how about that topic where the issue of players farming only 2 or 3 events in Cursed Shore was brought up and OP was accussed for having an agenda? even though it was a reasonable issue.

How about that guy Atlan who brought up  issues regarding bugged DEs in ORR and he was simply labeled as a hater?

I can give you a long list of topic where OP is flamed for being constructive. Truth is that Fans can not hear anything negative about GW2, constructive or otherwise.

Shall i go on?

I don't know why you even made this topic when it is clear that you don't even want to acknowledge replies which do not confirm with your own opinion. Isn't that the whole point of discussion? to be open to arguments from other side of the fence?

But yeah +1 for a such a great post.

*rolls eyes*

So it's a terrible post because it disagree's with your opinion?

 

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  Gurpslord

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11/03/12 9:36:37 PM#342
Pick a game on this site.  Go to that games forums.  Witness Game bashing.  It's kinda what we do here at MMORPG.com.
  Pivotelite

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11/03/12 9:37:08 PM#343
Originally posted by eyelolled

So it's a terrible post because it disagree's with your opinion?

 How childish, just like your earlier sarcastic remarks which also got called out.

 

The GW2 fans who consider the game their saviour can not handle any criticism of the game and mock/flame/conjure up theories about anyone who doesn't think it's perfect. Just like these same people before the game came out hyped it up to epic proportions, ones unknown to MMOs before it.

People like yourself, Zylaxx, Itgrowls, "Paradigm shift" guy, Aerowyn(to a lesser extent on defending moreso on hyping) and Torgrim are the reason GW2 gets flamed so much, and you set yourselves up for it, ask for it even.

 

So there we have it, thread answered, problem solved.

 

 

  GeezerGamer

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11/03/12 9:48:37 PM#344
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by eyelolled

So it's a terrible post because it disagree's with your opinion?

 How childish, just like your earlier sarcastic remarks which also got called out.

 

The GW2 fans who consider the game their saviour can not handle any criticism of the game and mock/flame/conjure up theories about anyone who doesn't think it's perfect. Just like these same people before the game came out hyped it up to epic proportions, ones unknown to MMOs before it.

People like yourself, Zylaxx, Itgrowls, "Paradigm shift" guy, Aerowyn(to a lesser extent on defending moreso on hyping) and Torgrim are the reason GW2 gets flamed so much, and you set yourselves up for it, ask for it even.

 

So there we have it, thread answered, problem solved.

 

 

You have a point there (in red) This thread.....the OP.....did, in fact ASK for this.

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  KhinRunite

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Joined: 11/05/10
Posts: 897

11/03/12 9:56:09 PM#345
Originally posted by lifeordinary
Originally posted by Torgrim
Great post and well written.

+1

Yeah sure. it is great post and well written because it confirms with your own opinions. Not that there are not other well written posts among 30 pages of dribble.

Even though he is completely wrong about players getting confused on opening the map because things are not marked for them. I don't know what game he is talking about. GW2 holds hand of players and guide them like any other themepark MMO. As usual trying to make GW2 look more complex than it really is.

Feeling sorry for those who dislike GW2? why? because they have different taste? 

Fans defending the game not out of loyalty but because people state false facts? really? how about that topic where the issue of players farming only 2 or 3 events in Cursed Shore was brought up and OP was accussed for having an agenda? even though it was a reasonable issue.

How about that guy Atlan who brought up  issues regarding bugged DEs in ORR and he was simply labeled as a hater?

I can give you a long list of topic where OP is flamed for being constructive. Truth is that Fans can not hear anything negative about GW2, constructive or otherwise.

Shall i go on?

I don't know why you even made this topic when it is clear that you don't even want to acknowledge replies which do not confirm with your own opinion. Isn't that the whole point of discussion? to be open to arguments from other side of the fence?

But yeah +1 for a such a great post.

*rolls eyes*

 

You should, so we can help you out more on certain misinformation.

 

True, GW2 does hand-holding, and it is a smart design. It's to accommodate players who are new to the genre or those that don't have a sandbox-like mentality. It does, however, get scarce as players move on. There are a number of unmarked areas with secret puzzles and dungeons, also where DEs kick off. Players can earn achievements upon completing the puzzles which makes for a hefty amount of XP. It's true about what he said that some people are either unable to comprehend the content, or are unwilling to look for these things. There are also those whose understanding of the design is only skin deep, hence the misconception. I'm not trying to make GW2 more complex than it is. The content I'm talking about are in the game.

  Deivos

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Posts: 1701

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11/03/12 10:01:45 PM#346

That really didn't answer the thread at all Pivotelite.

 

Though it has been answered previously.

 

Fact is there are multiple camps or mindsets that ranger from distinct cynicism towards the game to excessive zeal. Like any location where two such polar opinions meet, you have conflict.

 

Each side is incapable of seeing the flaws in their own arguments as they see their arguments to be thr truth, and for the most part only take objective commentary and assessment if it reaffirms their stance, and everything else ir wrong/a lie.

 

So what is the end result, one group of people labeling everyone 'fanboys' or somesuch and the other side's eqiovalent labening everyone 'haters'.

 

This may be hard for some to wrap their heads around, but both sides are wrong.

 

They have both pushed their pinions and rationale to an extreme and alienated most rational thought. They would rather argue semantics to stand for the opinion rather than taking any given title for what it is.

This creates a very large middle ground of players and posters that are more or less lost in the noise of it all.

 

So to answer the question myself.

There are people bash the game because they don't like it and need to tell the world they don't like it.

There are also people who bash the game because someone else doesn't like the game and they don't like that someone likes it.

They also bash the game because some people who do like the game bash others for not liking the game.

And they may also bash the game because they don't like the people playing the game.

 

It varies from person to person. For a few it's simply because they feel they need to get their voiced heard over what they see to be valid concerns. For others it's righteous indignation, the very same element that drives some to defend a title from any negative input.

 

In general, it's becaue people have an overall inability to make a clear distinction of when they are talking about mechanical aspects of a game and when they are talking about their opinions and inevitably tread on one another's toes as a result of their conflicting opinions. This wanders out of hand, and a brand new flame war starts where people who didn't even necessarily find the game that bad now 'hate' it because someone rebuked their point of view or someone who kinda likes it now thinks it's a gold plated lambo because someone else called it shit.

 

In other words, it's because people are people.

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  eyelolled

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Posts: 3082

I am more than some of my parts

11/03/12 10:02:03 PM#347
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by eyelolled

So it's a terrible post because it disagree's with your opinion?

 How childish, just like your earlier sarcastic remarks which also got called out.

 

The GW2 fans who consider the game their saviour can not handle any criticism of the game and mock/flame/conjure up theories about anyone who doesn't think it's perfect. Just like these same people before the game came out hyped it up to epic proportions, ones unknown to MMOs before it.

People like yourself, Zylaxx, Itgrowls, "Paradigm shift" guy, Aerowyn(to a lesser extent on defending moreso on hyping) and Torgrim are the reason GW2 gets flamed so much, and you set yourselves up for it, ask for it even.

 

So there we have it, thread answered, problem solved.

 

 

So because I like GW2 I'm not allowed to ask a question? Was it not a legitmate question?

 

Oh and as for my earlier sarcastic remarks. I apologized for them. Didn't you see? Don't you realize how much I care that you're not hurt.

EDIT:  I forgot to thank you for your input, I definately treasure your objectivity.

 

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  MikeB

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Posts: 5400

11/03/12 10:30:15 PM#348
Let's try and pursue some more constructive discussions. Locking this one up.

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