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  Icewhite

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11/01/12 9:14:05 AM#61
Originally posted by Calerxes

 Ah! you're talking about GW2 fans then.... no wait a minute that must be wrong because GW2 is mainstream and under appreciated for its revolutionary gameplay, gamers just don't get it... that doesn't make sense when held up against your argument does it?

Buh whut?

"There's a thread somewhere on mmorpg.com that isn't about GW2! Let's see if I can derail it."

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  Roxtarr

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11/01/12 9:46:43 AM#62
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by grimal

I can see that happening with the younger crowds.  But there are some...more mature folk here too.

You mean  us 50-somethings?

What in the world led you to believe they're immune to peer pressure?  More resistant, at best.

Remember Celine Dion and that #&@*&$*^&! Titanic theme?  I hated the piece of crap with such a passion...simple overexposure...poor me, trapped in an office and cursed with 'lite rock' Musak that played it 1E+17 times a day, every day, for years... 

She'd best hope I'm never near Vegas with a weapon.

Edit. Nevermind. I'm not sure I even agree with what I posted.  Carry on :P

If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.

  Torvaldr

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11/01/12 9:55:08 AM#63
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Quirhid

Its not prejudice, its an observation. Healthy critisism towards self-righteous posters who've become increasingly vocal lately. Anything mainstream is trash and anything they like and its under-appreciated.

Psh...

Soo...you being self-righteous is okay, but if they do it...

How am I self-righteous?

Preaching against self-righteousness, of course.

Well then, none of us can avoid it. You yourself are self-righteous.

Indeed, that is often the case.

But I'm not the one on the soap box.  That's you.

You're not on the soap box?  You've entered the thread, stepped up to the pulpit for correction or edification.  Does one need to be the OP of the thread to stand on the soap box?

I understand your point though.  The original post is hypocrtical to a point, but is that in his point or how he vented it in frustration?  He does have a point with the OP does he not?

  Torvaldr

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11/01/12 10:04:42 AM#64
Originally posted by Lobotomist

I am a hipster

But I hate hipsters ...

I was a hipster since I was born - or let me use the right term for this NON-CONFORMIST

Its just my character, something in my blood.

Than in last few years we have this trend to hate everything mainstream , making you "HIP" and popular with "HIP" community.

I am just underlying the clear paradox of this. Being non conformist means you dont subscribe to trends. But they do.

Basicaly "hipsters" are fake.

However

And i can not stress this enough : popular =/= good ... at least not always.

Just look IMDB , you have mass vote there for movie rating. Yet some great movies have poor vote, and some shit have high vote. Why ?

Because real great works of art that move us - speak to limited number of people , when they speak to masses they are deluted in order to please everyone.

No.  Art, art in whatever form it takes, is subjective.  You're inferring that the limited group, just because it has a narrowly defined and exclusive criteria for what is good, is more right than the unwashed masses who may appreciate that art for other reasons.

Outside of the delivery, the OP seems to criticizing the idea that small exclusive sub-groups withing the mmo demographic somehow have better taste or more insight into what makes an mmo good.

  Foomerang

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11/01/12 11:17:31 AM#65


Originally posted by Quirhid


Have you noticed how everything popular seems to be bad and everything unpopular seems to be the greatest thing on earth? We are surrounded by hipsters, I tell you. And I hate hipsters...

Its not like the games they like require a refined taste or anything. They're unpopular for a reason: they are crap. They love to make the McDonalds argument whenever it suits them, but when they encounter a game they like its like dining in a 3-Michelin-star restaurant. I've played enough games to know there's no such thing as refined taste. So take that fastfood metaphor and shove it.

I know when I'm playing a mediocre game, and I'm not afraid to say so. Pirates of the Burning Sea was one of them. But only because I'm a sucker for Age of Sail-games. I'd only give it 6/10 but I still found it entertaining for good 3 weeks. Not everything I play is a masterpiece.

So if something is popular, it must be good at something. Anyone who says "its full of shit" is talking out of their arse.

There. I said it. I feel better for it.


Everywhere? Name 1 member that fits your description and the quotes to back it up. I haven't seen a single member here who hates only mainstream big budget mmos and loves only small obscure mmos. I'm waiting patiently :)

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  wordiz

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11/01/12 11:22:38 AM#66
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  User Deleted
11/01/12 11:22:39 AM#67
Originally posted by Quirhid
Originally posted by Paradigm68
Originally posted by Quirhid
 

What an amazing rant for accepting what you're given uncritically.  And just because something is popular because it's good at something that doesn't mean the thing is good. McDonald's is really good at marketing. That doesn't make McDonald's good.

The point is: there is no "fine dining" in MMOs, therefore the fastfood metaphor is trashed.

Why bother creating fine dining when people are lapping up shit all the time?

 

Personally I don't gauge a games quality on it's popularity, nor do I dislike games simply because they are popular.

  User Deleted
11/01/12 11:51:49 AM#68
Ironicly, I doubt the hipsters could agree on what a fine dining MMO is...
  BadSpock

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11/01/12 11:53:37 AM#69
Originally posted by Psychow
Ironicly, I doubt the hipsters could agree on what a fine dining MMO is...

They have, you just probably haven't heard of it...

 

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  Kyleran

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11/01/12 12:28:35 PM#70
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Psychow
Ironicly, I doubt the hipsters could agree on what a fine dining MMO is...

They have, you just probably haven't heard of it...

 

True, but I like to think of myself as Tragically Hip.  (actual in game name for some of my avatars)

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  Kyleran

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11/01/12 12:32:05 PM#71
Originally posted by Quirhid
nvm

You know, I read this before you deleted it.

Not really fair, I finally got you to admit you don't care for any MMORPG, and the question stills stands.  Do you now (or did you ever) consider any MMORPG a good "game" or are you so hip you don't enjoy any of them?

What exactly are you looking for?

While most hipsters are pretty clear what they dislike, trying to figure out what they are looking for is the real challenge.

"What gamers want ... is new game play patterns different from what they've experienced before" - Axehilt
Kyleran - Bitter Vet ™ since 2006
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  User Deleted
11/01/12 12:37:19 PM#72
Originally posted by Quirhid

Have you noticed how everything popular seems to be bad and everything unpopular seems to be the greatest thing on earth? We are surrounded by hipsters, I tell you. And I hate hipsters...

Its not like the games they like require a refined taste or anything. They're unpopular for a reason: they are crap. They love to make the McDonalds argument whenever it suits them, but when they encounter a game they like its like dining in a 3-Michelin-star restaurant. I've played enough games to know there's no such thing as refined taste. So take that fastfood metaphor and shove it.

I know when I'm playing a mediocre game, and I'm not afraid to say so. Pirates of the Burning Sea was one of them. But only because I'm a sucker for Age of Sail-games. I'd only give it 6/10 but I still found it entertaining for good 3 weeks. Not everything I play is a masterpiece.

So if something is popular, it must be good at something. Anyone who says "its full of shit" is talking out of their arse.

There. I said it. I feel better for it.

Agreed 100%.  I am one of those types who hate anything indie, indie things make me sick and want to puke!

 

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

11/01/12 12:56:49 PM#73
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Psychow
Ironicly, I doubt the hipsters could agree on what a fine dining MMO is...

They have, you just probably haven't heard of it...

 

True, but I like to think of myself as Tragically Hip.  (actual in game name for some of my avatars)

It's like the iconic hipster joke -

What's a hipster's favorite band?

I don't know, you've probably never heard of them...

It is ironic when people complain about hipsters. As hipsters in general are ironic because by being hipsters they are popular and trendy. It's like Goth kids rejecting social norms - to adapt a different set of social norms.

The real joke is humanity - one big punch line.

MMO History:
UO, SWG, WoW, E&B, EQ2, EVE, FFXI, GW2, LOTRO, RIFT, WAR
Beta/Trial: EVERYTHING else
Looking To: FFXIV, ESO(meh), Black Desert (Maybe)

  Creslin321

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11/01/12 1:01:58 PM#74

Honestly Quirhid...I agree with you lol.

It seems that the more popular and well received a game is, the more hate it gets.  I mean, compare the amount of hate that Guild Wars 2 gets on these forums to the amount of hate that Mortal Online gets...then ask yourself which one is the better game lol :).

And most of the folks that post negative things about popular games are fans of obscure or dead games that most people don't know about.  Many of them even go so far as to argue that said popular games don't even qualify as MMORPGs.

The craziest thing is that I even like the older games like UO...heck I even enjoyed Darkfall.  The difference is that I don't let that stop me from liking the more popular games like GW2.

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  Gardavsshade

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11/01/12 1:03:05 PM#75
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Psychow
Ironicly, I doubt the hipsters could agree on what a fine dining MMO is...

They have, you just probably haven't heard of it...

 

True, but I like to think of myself as Tragically Hip.  (actual in game name for some of my avatars)

It's like the iconic hipster joke -

What's a hipster's favorite band?

I don't know, you've probably never heard of them...

It is ironic when people complain about hipsters. As hipsters in general are ironic because by being hipsters they are popular and trendy. It's like Goth kids rejecting social norms - to adapt a different set of social norms.

The real joke is humanity - one big punch line.

Agreed.

Somebody on these boards said something about a recent MMO feeling "soulless"... it's soulless because Humanity has lost it's soul. Can't make something really good and useful with crap tools.

We just got to get the good tools back we misplaced is all.

 


Nothing to see here... just another MMO Ghost....

  Creslin321

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11/01/12 1:03:34 PM#76
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Psychow
Ironicly, I doubt the hipsters could agree on what a fine dining MMO is...

They have, you just probably haven't heard of it...

 

True, but I like to think of myself as Tragically Hip.  (actual in game name for some of my avatars)

It's like the iconic hipster joke -

What's a hipster's favorite band?

I don't know, you've probably never heard of them...

It is ironic when people complain about hipsters. As hipsters in general are ironic because by being hipsters they are popular and trendy. It's like Goth kids rejecting social norms - to adapt a different set of social norms.

The real joke is humanity - one big punch line.

 I don't like hipsters...too mainstream ;).

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

  fenistil

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11/01/12 1:05:05 PM#77
Originally posted by Creslin321

Honestly Quirhid...I agree with you lol.

It seems that the more popular and well received a game is, the more hate it gets.  I mean, compare the amount of hate that Guild Wars 2 gets on these forums to the amount of hate that Mortal Online gets...then ask yourself which one is the better game lol :).

And most of the folks that post negative things about popular games are fans of obscure or dead games that most people don't know about.  Many of them even go so far as to argue that said popular games don't even qualify as MMORPGs.

The craziest thing is that I even like the older games like UO...heck I even enjoyed Darkfall.  The difference is that I don't let that stop me from liking the more popular games like GW2.

Have you visited Mortal Online forum section?  It get alot of hate for years. I mean alot - buckets load of steaming poo.  It is just less noticeable because it is like 1000x less popular.

  bcbully

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11/01/12 1:07:59 PM#78
Bieber great, Gorrilas suck, and if you like the Gorrilas you a hipster 

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  Nikopol

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11/01/12 1:16:57 PM#79
Originally posted by BadSpock

 

The real joke is humanity - one big punch line.

Hey, you were going for a nicely-veiled The Comedian cynicism, weren't you?

You hipster you! :)

 

  Creslin321

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11/01/12 1:18:22 PM#80
Originally posted by fenistil
Originally posted by Creslin321

Honestly Quirhid...I agree with you lol.

It seems that the more popular and well received a game is, the more hate it gets.  I mean, compare the amount of hate that Guild Wars 2 gets on these forums to the amount of hate that Mortal Online gets...then ask yourself which one is the better game lol :).

And most of the folks that post negative things about popular games are fans of obscure or dead games that most people don't know about.  Many of them even go so far as to argue that said popular games don't even qualify as MMORPGs.

The craziest thing is that I even like the older games like UO...heck I even enjoyed Darkfall.  The difference is that I don't let that stop me from liking the more popular games like GW2.

Have you visited Mortal Online forum section?  It get alot of hate for years. I mean alot - buckets load of steaming poo.  It is just less noticeable because it is like 1000x less popular.

 Hehe that's a good point.  I probably just never see it because the 3 people that play and care about MO keep to themselves ;).

Still though, I feel like popular games get a lot of hate from people that don't play, and never plan to play them.  While a more obscure, yet bad, game will only get hate (often legitimate) from its actual player base.

Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?

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