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  deakon

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10/31/12 9:50:07 AM#141

I dont see why people see this as a bad thing tbh

 

GL wasnt going to do anything good with star wars anyway and disney have a great track record when it comes to other companies under their wing (pixar, marvel etc)

 

What I would love to see happen would be that they postpone the movie to 2018 and get Joss Whedon to write/direct it, for me the main thing missing from the prequels was the cockpit humor and Joss could bring that in spades imho

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

10/31/12 9:50:39 AM#142
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Originally posted by Binny45

Apparently they're going to retcon everything after Return of the Jedi.

Episode VII will be something entirely new.

As it should be.  The books weren't very good, even Zahns first trilogy.

What?

Zahns trilogy was fantastic - as was the Xwing series and lots of other EU books after ROTJ.

And whoever said the comment about 75% of Star Trek fans not liking the JJ Abrams reboot is full of it. That was also a fantastic movie.

Here's the real truth - MOST of the Original series, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and the Star Trek movies are really quite bad.

But the universe kicks ass, has some incredible fiction outside the "official" series and movies, and yes there are some phenominal episodes and good movies in the line up.

Star Wars is similar - the absolute best stuff in the universe is found outside the official 6 movie series.

Zahn, Stackpole, original KOTOR, Jedi Knight / Outcast series, Xwing/Tie Fighter series, comics...

The movies are more like the Rebel Assault games - entertaining, but the REAL meat and potatoes of the IP is done outside.

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  TigerAero

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10/31/12 9:55:31 AM#143

I hope there's a lot of killing in the series and it doesn't involve any romance or any of that crap. Death and destruction...from Disney?

 

Most likely we can all guess what will happen and we all know the types of people Disney caters to  and we close our doors in disapproval.

  Daddydazzle

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10/31/12 9:56:13 AM#144
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Originally posted by Binny45

Apparently they're going to retcon everything after Return of the Jedi.

Episode VII will be something entirely new.

As it should be.  The books weren't very good, even Zahns first trilogy.

What?

Zahns trilogy was fantastic - as was the Xwing series and lots of other EU books after ROTJ.

And whoever said the comment about 75% of Star Trek fans not liking the JJ Abrams reboot is full of it. That was also a fantastic movie.

Here's the real truth - MOST of the Original series, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and the Star Trek movies are really quite bad.

But the universe kicks ass, has some incredible fiction outside the "official" series and movies, and yes there are some phenominal episodes and good movies in the line up.

Star Wars is similar - the absolute best stuff in the universe is found outside the official 6 movie series.

Zahn, Stackpole, original KOTOR, Jedi Knight / Outcast series, Xwing/Tie Fighter series, comics...

The movies are more like the Rebel Assault games - entertaining, but the REAL meat and potatoes of the IP is done outside.

everything in this post. +1 

Experience is the best teacher.. if you can afford the tuition.

  VikingGamer

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10/31/12 10:00:45 AM#145
Originally posted by evolver1972

It'll be interesting to see if Disney f's up the franchise more than Lucas did.

 

I'm hoping for a more John Carter-ish trilogy but expecting a Little Mermaid version of Star Wars.

 

Either way, for a franchise that was so great for so long, it's a pity to see how it was run into the ground.

 

Help us Obi Walt Disney.  You're our only hope.

I really don't think Disney will damage Star Wars any worse than Jar Jar Binks. Of course I am not holding out hope that they will improve it either. All in all, it is probably an appropriate match.

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  lizardbones

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10/31/12 10:01:25 AM#146


Originally posted by Daddydazzle

Originally posted by FrodoFragins

Originally posted by Binny45 Apparently they're going to retcon everything after Return of the Jedi. Episode VII will be something entirely new.
As it should be.  The books weren't very good, even Zahns first trilogy.
you're allowed to have an opinion, but i thought they were solid stories, and a good read in general. also ignoring the expanded universe, and going a new direction, is going to piss off a lot of fans of the franchise.



Not making fans of the franchise angry isn't going to be an option at this point. What they can do is what they do well...write and develop things that people in general like, with a nod to the fans of the franchise.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  Volenibblets

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Posts: 203

10/31/12 10:02:40 AM#147
And now the circle is complete...
  Vesavius

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10/31/12 10:05:12 AM#148
Originally posted by deakon

I dont see why people see this as a bad thing tbh

GL wasnt going to do anything good with star wars anyway and disney have a great track record when it comes to other companies under their wing (pixar, marvel etc)

 

Agreed.

All this can do is improve the situation for the SW franchise IMO. It's ridiculous to see Disney as some kind of evil ruinous corperate entity when we are looking at Lucas Arts...

Maybe we can get this franchise heading in the right direction again now.

  User Deleted
10/31/12 10:58:44 AM#149
I wonder what the new Star Wars play ground will look like at Disney Land?
  ktanner3

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10/31/12 10:58:58 AM#150
Originally posted by lizardbones

 




Not making fans of the franchise angry isn't going to be an option at this point. What they can do is what they do well...write and develop things that people in general like, with a nod to the fans of the franchise.

 

Exactly. Star Wars fanatics gripe about any and everything. Disney already has experience in this regard with the heat they took from Marvel fans over the casting of Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man turned out to be a huge success and the fanatics that kicked up a mighty stink ended up with egg on their faces. In a few years,the same might happen to the posters on this board making snarky referrences to this franchise turning into Micky Mouse with lightsabers. Have none of you heard of Iron  Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America and The Avengers? All solid movies and all made a crap load of money. It's amazing. The same people that griped how Lucas was running Star Wars in the ground are griping because he got rid of it. Make up your minds already. 

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  Aerowyn

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10/31/12 11:02:04 AM#151
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by lizardbones

 




Not making fans of the franchise angry isn't going to be an option at this point. What they can do is what they do well...write and develop things that people in general like, with a nod to the fans of the franchise.

 

Exactly. Star Wars fanatics gripe about any and everything. Disney already has experience in this regard with the heat they took from Marvel fans over the casting of Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man turned out to be a huge success and the fanatics that kicked up a mighty stink ended up with egg on their faces. In a few years,the same might happen to the posters on this board making snarky referrences to this franchise turning into Micky Mouse with lightsabers. Have none of you heard of Iron  Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America and The Avengers? All solid movies and all made a crap load of money. It's amazing. The same people that griped how Lucas was running Star Wars in the ground are griping because he got rid of it. Make up your minds already. 

agreed after seeing how well done the recent marvel movies have been(especially The Avengers) from them as I star wars nut I really have HIGH hopes for the future of star wars.. before this annoucment I had pretty much gave up on hope for anymore star wars movies

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

10/31/12 11:39:49 AM#152
Originally posted by Daddydazzle
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by FrodoFragins
Originally posted by Binny45

Apparently they're going to retcon everything after Return of the Jedi.

Episode VII will be something entirely new.

As it should be.  The books weren't very good, even Zahns first trilogy.

What?

Zahns trilogy was fantastic - as was the Xwing series and lots of other EU books after ROTJ.

And whoever said the comment about 75% of Star Trek fans not liking the JJ Abrams reboot is full of it. That was also a fantastic movie.

Here's the real truth - MOST of the Original series, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, and the Star Trek movies are really quite bad.

But the universe kicks ass, has some incredible fiction outside the "official" series and movies, and yes there are some phenominal episodes and good movies in the line up.

Star Wars is similar - the absolute best stuff in the universe is found outside the official 6 movie series.

Zahn, Stackpole, original KOTOR, Jedi Knight / Outcast series, Xwing/Tie Fighter series, comics...

The movies are more like the Rebel Assault games - entertaining, but the REAL meat and potatoes of the IP is done outside.

everything in this post. +1 

That being said, Episode 7,8,9 without using material from EU especially Hier to Empire / Jedi Academy etc. is just as big of a gamble as using material from EU.

If they use material from EU, it probably won't match up to fan expectations.

If they don't use EU and do something new, it's a real big gamble - it either works and is a major success and people are thankful for the retcon.

Or it doesn't work and everyone wishes they would have just used EU material etc.

It's really hard to win this game.

It all depends on who the screenplay writer is, who the director is, and who plays Han Solo.

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  lizardbones

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10/31/12 11:55:19 AM#153


Originally posted by BadSpock
That being said, Episode 7,8,9 without using material from EU especially Hier to Empire / Jedi Academy etc. is just as big of a gamble as using material from EU.

If they use material from EU, it probably won't match up to fan expectations.

If they don't use EU and do something new, it's a real big gamble - it either works and is a major success and people are thankful for the retcon.

Or it doesn't work and everyone wishes they would have just used EU material etc.

It's really hard to win this game.

It all depends on who the screenplay writer is, who the director is, and who plays Han Solo.




Christian Bale as Darth Vader and Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Skywalker. Bruce Willis or Ben Affleck gets to play Han Solo.

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  Aerowyn

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Posts: 7969

10/31/12 11:58:51 AM#154
Originally posted by lizardbones

 


Originally posted by BadSpock
That being said, Episode 7,8,9 without using material from EU especially Hier to Empire / Jedi Academy etc. is just as big of a gamble as using material from EU.

 

If they use material from EU, it probably won't match up to fan expectations.

If they don't use EU and do something new, it's a real big gamble - it either works and is a major success and people are thankful for the retcon.

Or it doesn't work and everyone wishes they would have just used EU material etc.

It's really hard to win this game.

It all depends on who the screenplay writer is, who the director is, and who plays Han Solo.




Christian Bale as Darth Vader and Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Skywalker. Bruce Willis or Ben Affleck gets to play Han Solo.

 

i really hope they don't try to recast the originals.. i'd much rather the original actors have maybe small cameo parts and it focus on their kids.. when you recast originals it brings up to many comparisons and generally leads to much dissapointment.. especially with iconic characters like these..

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Painlezz

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10/31/12 12:04:12 PM#155
Originally posted by Darksix
This could be good or bad....as long as we never see Mickey Mouse with a light saber I suppose it would be hard to screw this up...Hopefully they will look into making a real Star Wars mmo similiar to Pre-cu SWG and dump that disney fart of a game TOR...only time will tell  :)

http://www.toonbarn.com/star-wars/star-wars-weekends-strike-disney/

 

Too late!

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

10/31/12 12:05:59 PM#156
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by lizardbones


Originally posted by BadSpock
That being said, Episode 7,8,9 without using material from EU especially Hier to Empire / Jedi Academy etc. is just as big of a gamble as using material from EU.

 

If they use material from EU, it probably won't match up to fan expectations.

If they don't use EU and do something new, it's a real big gamble - it either works and is a major success and people are thankful for the retcon.

Or it doesn't work and everyone wishes they would have just used EU material etc.

It's really hard to win this game.

It all depends on who the screenplay writer is, who the director is, and who plays Han Solo.




Christian Bale as Darth Vader and Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Skywalker. Bruce Willis or Ben Affleck gets to play Han Solo.
 

i really hope they don't try to recast the originals.. i'd much rather the original actors have maybe small cameo parts and it focus on their kids.. when you recast originals it brings up to many comparisons and generally leads to much dissapointment.. especially with iconic characters like these..

It worked well for Star Trek!

Han Solo is the only character that would be hard to recast.

The rest were no one before and (sorry but true) no one after.

Harrison Ford, James Earl Jones, Sir Alec Guiness only actors from Star Wars people knew about before or after.

Two of their characters are dead, so again only Han Solo is worth worrying about casting.

Luke could realistically be any decent actor that they can make look kind of close. Same with Leia, droids are droids and I'm sure Anthony Daniels would voice 3PO again, and Chewie is a guy in a suit (RIP Peter M) and beyond that you have all new bad guys (all original bad guys died) and Lando as well as minor bit characters (though super awesome) like Wedge.

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  Aerowyn

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10/31/12 12:09:22 PM#157
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by lizardbones


Originally posted by BadSpock
That being said, Episode 7,8,9 without using material from EU especially Hier to Empire / Jedi Academy etc. is just as big of a gamble as using material from EU.

 

If they use material from EU, it probably won't match up to fan expectations.

If they don't use EU and do something new, it's a real big gamble - it either works and is a major success and people are thankful for the retcon.

Or it doesn't work and everyone wishes they would have just used EU material etc.

It's really hard to win this game.

It all depends on who the screenplay writer is, who the director is, and who plays Han Solo.




Christian Bale as Darth Vader and Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Skywalker. Bruce Willis or Ben Affleck gets to play Han Solo.
 

i really hope they don't try to recast the originals.. i'd much rather the original actors have maybe small cameo parts and it focus on their kids.. when you recast originals it brings up to many comparisons and generally leads to much dissapointment.. especially with iconic characters like these..

It worked well for Star Trek!

Han Solo is the only character that would be hard to recast.

The rest were no one before and (sorry but true) no one after.

Harrison Ford, James Earl Jones, Sir Alec Guiness only actors from Star Wars people knew about before or after.

Two of their characters are dead, so again only Han Solo is worth worrying about casting.

Luke could realistically be any decent actor that they can make look kind of close. Same with Leia, droids are droids and I'm sure Anthony Daniels would voice 3PO again, and Chewie is a guy in a suit (RIP Peter M) and beyond that you have all new bad guys (all original bad guys died) and Lando as well as minor bit characters (though super awesome) like Wedge.

true it did work well in that regard but that was also more of a retelling of how it all started and a reboot not a continuation of a series of movies.. 

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  BadSpock

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Joined: 8/21/04
Posts: 7769

Logic be damned!

10/31/12 12:11:14 PM#158
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Aerowyn

i really hope they don't try to recast the originals.. i'd much rather the original actors have maybe small cameo parts and it focus on their kids.. when you recast originals it brings up to many comparisons and generally leads to much dissapointment.. especially with iconic characters like these..

It worked well for Star Trek!

Han Solo is the only character that would be hard to recast.

The rest were no one before and (sorry but true) no one after.

Harrison Ford, James Earl Jones, Sir Alec Guiness only actors from Star Wars people knew about before or after.

Two of their characters are dead, so again only Han Solo is worth worrying about casting.

Luke could realistically be any decent actor that they can make look kind of close. Same with Leia, droids are droids and I'm sure Anthony Daniels would voice 3PO again, and Chewie is a guy in a suit (RIP Peter M) and beyond that you have all new bad guys (all original bad guys died) and Lando as well as minor bit characters (though super awesome) like Wedge.

true it did work well in that regard but that was also more of a retelling of how it all started and a reboot not a continuation of a series of movies.. 

True, but I'm telling you - they get the casting right for Han Solo and they get the right director / screenplay no one will care that it's not Harrison Ford.

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  xAPOCx

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Joined: 10/25/12
Posts: 894

10/31/12 12:13:57 PM#159
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by lizardbones


Originally posted by BadSpock
That being said, Episode 7,8,9 without using material from EU especially Hier to Empire / Jedi Academy etc. is just as big of a gamble as using material from EU.

 

If they use material from EU, it probably won't match up to fan expectations.

If they don't use EU and do something new, it's a real big gamble - it either works and is a major success and people are thankful for the retcon.

Or it doesn't work and everyone wishes they would have just used EU material etc.

It's really hard to win this game.

It all depends on who the screenplay writer is, who the director is, and who plays Han Solo.




Christian Bale as Darth Vader and Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Skywalker. Bruce Willis or Ben Affleck gets to play Han Solo.
 

i really hope they don't try to recast the originals.. i'd much rather the original actors have maybe small cameo parts and it focus on their kids.. when you recast originals it brings up to many comparisons and generally leads to much dissapointment.. especially with iconic characters like these..

It worked well for Star Trek!

Han Solo is the only character that would be hard to recast.

The rest were no one before and (sorry but true) no one after.

Harrison Ford, James Earl Jones, Sir Alec Guiness only actors from Star Wars people knew about before or after.

Two of their characters are dead, so again only Han Solo is worth worrying about casting.

Luke could realistically be any decent actor that they can make look kind of close. Same with Leia, droids are droids and I'm sure Anthony Daniels would voice 3PO again, and Chewie is a guy in a suit (RIP Peter M) and beyond that you have all new bad guys (all original bad guys died) and Lando as well as minor bit characters (though super awesome) like Wedge.

If they cast Bradly Copper as Han ill fucking shoot myself >.<

  Yuujakumi

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Joined: 6/24/12
Posts: 11

10/31/12 12:14:55 PM#160

If there is to be a reboot it would be of SWToR, Tho I doubt this will happen.  

SWG is dead and gone (thank the gaming gods)  and there will be no SWG2.  Disney doesn't like Sony/SoE and they would not have anything to do with something they made.  

If anything in 5 years when ToR's contract is up  (but ToR being long dead by then cause of their F2P model)  we'll see the next Star Wars MMO.

So the SWG people can leave the forums now and stop beating what was a dead horse but is now just a puddle of goo seeping into the ground heading for the nearest river and out to sea to be gone forever.

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