odd that there are no server wipes when I thought it was a completely new game

Originally posted by birdycephon
Because there would be riots in the streets if they wiped.

...and not only that, but it is simply unnecessary if new fresh servers are offered as well. Why create the bad feeling when you don't need to?

Hearing of the fresh servers really excites me!!! I didn't know there would be any.

I swore never to return without a character wipe, knowing all the exploits that were abused to level and gain retarded amounts of money.

Them taking a zero off of everything does nothing towards making sure everyone gets a even start. going from a billion to a hundred million for launch, while taking a zero off the price of everything, does nothing to stop them from abusing the market and skyrocketing prices

I think this is a mistake.  If the game is not that great then those new servers will be ghost towns and pointless.  And lack of wipe will discourage some people from coming back.

I doubt anyone would riot if they wiped. 

Originally posted by adam_nox

I think this is a mistake.  If the game is not that great then those new servers will be ghost towns and pointless.  And lack of wipe will discourage some people from coming back.

 

I doubt anyone would riot if they wiped. 

You doubt that those who have paid a sub for a year or more would riot if there was a wipe?

You don't know what you're talking about, I assure you.

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by adam_nox

I think this is a mistake.  If the game is not that great then those new servers will be ghost towns and pointless.  And lack of wipe will discourage some people from coming back.

 

I doubt anyone would riot if they wiped. 

 

You doubt that those who have paid a sub for a year or more would riot if there was a wipe?

You don't know what you're talking about, I assure you.

Didn't they do a poll for wiping vs not wiping, and it was split almost even?

So...of the 8k players that subbed after the downfall, 4k people would be SO MAD. Minimal, and something i would call a neccessary sacrifice :)

EDIT: This coming from someone who has two chars with most of the combat classes maxed and a nice wad of cash.

I want a fresh start in this fresh revamp. Everyone should.

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by adam_nox

I think this is a mistake.  If the game is not that great then those new servers will be ghost towns and pointless.  And lack of wipe will discourage some people from coming back.

 

I doubt anyone would riot if they wiped. 

 

You doubt that those who have paid a sub for a year or more would riot if there was a wipe?

You don't know what you're talking about, I assure you.

Didn't they do a poll for wiping vs not wiping, and it was split almost even?

So...of the 8k players that subbed after the downfall, 4k people would be SO MAD. Minimal, and something i would call a neccessary sacrifice :)

Was it really only 8k? Where did you get that from?

And an even split? I am not sure... I seme to remember seeing somewhere that it was closer to 70/30, and if the unwiped servers drop below 30% then they would get dropped... I might be wrong there though, it's purely from flawed memory, I don't have a source and cba to get one right now ;)

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by adam_nox

I think this is a mistake.  If the game is not that great then those new servers will be ghost towns and pointless.  And lack of wipe will discourage some people from coming back.

 

I doubt anyone would riot if they wiped. 

 

You doubt that those who have paid a sub for a year or more would riot if there was a wipe?

You don't know what you're talking about, I assure you.

Didn't they do a poll for wiping vs not wiping, and it was split almost even?

So...of the 8k players that subbed after the downfall, 4k people would be SO MAD. Minimal, and something i would call a neccessary sacrifice :)

 

Was it really only 8k? Where did you get that from?

And an even split? I am not sure... I seme to remember seeing somewhere that it was closer to 70/30, and if the unwiped servers drop below 30% then they would get dropped... I might be wrong there though, it's purely from flawed memory, I don't have a source and cba to get one right now ;)

SE/community manager has removed the chart showing population on servers from the japanese website once subscriptions started again. The chart had the population pegged at 47k total( that's logging in, active) before the sub kicked in. Using that as a base, the community came up with 8-12k as a subscriber base number after the sub kicked in.

Mostly speculation, no hard numbers as to how many are subbing. Looking for forum posts to linky for ya

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Originally posted by Toxia

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Originally posted by Vesavius

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Originally posted by Toxia

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Originally posted by Netspook

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Originally posted by adam_nox I think this is a mistake.  If the game is not that great then those new servers will be ghost towns and pointless.  And lack of wipe will discourage some people from coming back.   I doubt anyone would riot if they wiped. 

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  You doubt that those who have paid a sub for a year or more would riot if there was a wipe? You don't know what you're talking about, I assure you.

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Didn't they do a poll for wiping vs not wiping, and it was split almost even? So...of the 8k players that subbed after the downfall, 4k people would be SO MAD. Minimal, and something i would call a neccessary sacrifice :)

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  Was it really only 8k? Where did you get that from? And an even split? I am not sure... I seme to remember seeing somewhere that it was closer to 70/30, and if the unwiped servers drop below 30% then they would get dropped... I might be wrong there though, it's purely from flawed memory, I don't have a source and cba to get one right now ;)

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SE/community manager has removed the chart showing population on servers from the japanese website once subscriptions started again. The chart had the population pegged at 47k total( that's logging in, active) before the sub kicked in. Using that as a base, the community came up with 8-12k as a subscriber base number after the sub kicked in.

Mostly speculation, no hard numbers as to how many are subbing. Looking for forum posts to linky for ya

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So where is the chart of the amount of people who followed up on yoshis promise to keep the old characters as far as possible? Let me guess, it's a tiny minority just because you said so?

Personaly you sound like someone to whom this game is already lost. If what others did or didn't (even on other servers) bothers you so much, i'm sure you will find something else to quit over.
A Wipe is out of question anyway.

So from the column I read today it really sounds like they wiped and will make a totally new game. Did I read it wrong? Will there be grandfathered charaters/gil somewhere in there?

I would like to know because I would like to start totally new so I would want to know if I need to pick out a certain server for that or if the whole game got reset.

New servers, no wipes.

Older players from 1.0 will have their own servers so they don't effect the economy and crafters that start fresh, everyone wins.

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by Netspook

Originally posted by adam_nox

I think this is a mistake.  If the game is not that great then those new servers will be ghost towns and pointless.  And lack of wipe will discourage some people from coming back.

 

I doubt anyone would riot if they wiped. 

 

You doubt that those who have paid a sub for a year or more would riot if there was a wipe?

You don't know what you're talking about, I assure you.

Didn't they do a poll for wiping vs not wiping, and it was split almost even?

So...of the 8k players that subbed after the downfall, 4k people would be SO MAD. Minimal, and something i would call a neccessary sacrifice :)

 

Was it really only 8k? Where did you get that from?

And an even split? I am not sure... I seme to remember seeing somewhere that it was closer to 70/30, and if the unwiped servers drop below 30% then they would get dropped... I might be wrong there though, it's purely from flawed memory, I don't have a source and cba to get one right now ;)

SE/community manager has removed the chart showing population on servers from the japanese website once subscriptions started again. The chart had the population pegged at 47k total( that's logging in, active) before the sub kicked in. Using that as a base, the community came up with 8-12k as a subscriber base number after the sub kicked in.

Mostly speculation, no hard numbers as to how many are subbing. Looking for forum posts to linky for ya

Dont have numbers to back it  but I beleive it went from 47k to 20k when subs came in and by 1.23 had more than doubled the 20k number.

How do you "relaunch" a game without a server wipe?

Will existing players even know how to play their toons in the new game?

So despite the fact that these existing characters will have no effect on new players, their mere existence is troubling folks?

I'll never understand you humans.

Originally posted by zevni78

New servers, no wipes.

Older players from 1.0 will have their own servers so they don't effect the economy and crafters that start fresh, everyone wins.

This.