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  dotdotdash

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10/28/12 11:23:59 AM#41

I think Windows 8 looks stylish. No Windows operating system has been brave enough to try to define a style in the way Windows 8 has. In fact, I think that out of any OS release Windows 8 is the most focused on how it looks. And I think that the simplicity of it will mean that in a years time we'll probably all be using it. Pricing it at the point they have means that a huge number of people will be buying it because it's cheap. And again.... we will all be doing that as well. Eventually we may come to realise precisely why Windows 8 is Microsoft's best OS... because I think it probably is the best OS they've ever made. I also think it will age well.

  Quizzical

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10/28/12 1:23:27 PM#42
Originally posted by ShakyMo
A gamer buying win 8 is like a turkey looking forwards to Christmas

Which means that the Turkey survived Thanksgiving.  :p

  ShakyMo

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10/28/12 1:24:27 PM#43
I'm from the UK, I don't have thanksgiving.
  Xthos

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11/03/12 2:52:59 AM#44

I am going to probably be buying two new gaming computers (for me and the wife) in the next year.  So I will most likely be jumping in also.  Probably going to be getting two windows phones too, and maybe a tablet/laptop towards the end of next year (aug/septish).  I think keeping everything on the same platform will be the easiest thing to do...

 

Instead of say using a android/iOS, and W8 for 3 devices.

 

People have said that W8 uses less resources, and things perform better on it, so give us a update on how it is, once you get into it a little longer.

 

I do not see how a OS that supposedly has less system strain could be bad for a gamer?  I mean if I am clicking a icon, or a tile....I am in my game, and wouldn't know which windows is behind it, while I am playing.

 

  Arcondo87

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11/03/12 3:06:47 AM#45

all you need to know about Windows 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw

Personally i will buy Windows 8 just so i can run it over with my car....

  karmath

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11/03/12 3:15:59 AM#46

 "Post pc era", what complete and utter cancer.

Nothing annoys me more than 'people' who think they have indepth knowlage of something when all they know is some marketing buzzword tripe that they have swallowed and now proceed to regurgitate in an effort to make themselves look cool.

It is these people who we have to thank for things going backwards, idiots that buy insane amounts of inane overpriced inferior crap.

Welcome to everything having an inferior input like a touch screen/motion controls and WoW Clones being spewed for yet another decade.

  Ridelynn

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OP  11/05/12 2:29:05 PM#47

It's been a bit over a week now.

Honestly, now, I can pretty easily say that I've adjusted to Win8. But probably not how Microsoft wanted me to.

First off, I largely have been able to ignore Metro/Modern/whatever. I have not used any of the various hacks/utilities to boot straight to the desktop - but after booting, that's usually what I end up doing - going right to the desktop, where I have set shortcuts for my most used programs. I also made "Tiles" for them (for the sake of figuring out how to do it), but I rarely do anything from the new Start screen if I don't have to.

I still have a general dislike for Metro apps. The full screen still looks poor to me on a computer monitor, I have a difficult time finding the UI elements. For instance, I still can't find "Print" in the email client, although Ctrl-P will bring it up - I doubt having keyboard shortcuts was the way they intended a touchscreen based program to function. I can't decide if not having the ability to quit a Metro app (at least via the GUI - sure you can kill it from the Task Manager, or Alt-F4 it) is a feature (because most tablets/phones don't "quit" processes, they just sleep merrily in the background and don't really consume any resources, and the same occurs in Win8 for the most part) or just lazy. If I can avoid using a program that uses the new interface, I avoid it. Fortunately, I haven't found anything that requires it yet.

i did a little browsing of the Windows Store - nothing caught my eye. Mostly the same junk I see in the iOS App Store, only it's for Windows... yay for more Angry Birds, and do I really need a dedicated Netflix app when it runs fine in my web browser.

A good tip for Shutdown. This I have found useful:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-shutdown-windows-8-in-just-one-click
Alternatively, you could also go into Energy Management and set your computer to "Shutdown" or "Sleep" when you push the power button - making your hardware perform the same function.

All in all, I use Win8 almost identically to the way I used 7, and I'm either ignoring or actively working around most of the "new" UI elements.

  knightaudit

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Those are my thoughts, not yours

11/05/12 2:49:50 PM#48

I went out and purchased the Windows 8 pro version .. and then hummed and hawwed over if to install or not to install (then I did that with Windows 7, vista and XP.. after being burned by ME). The key thing to remember if you are one of those still on teh fence ... It is new and different. It does take some getting used to .. and you may have to find a new way of doing something you used to do.

If it helps the "Start Window" is just like your start button.. but a LOT bigger. If you go into your apps .. it is like clicking all programs .. with bigger icons.

I can see why microsoft did all this, a merge between Tablets and PC's ... finding a program on your tablet and pc are done the same way. (provided both are on the pc and tablet)

Overall it took a bit of learning to get used to it ... but yes it is faster I went from 45 seconds from power button to desktop. to now 35 seconds and if I had a newer bios board I could drop that a bit more. As well I have recorded an increase in frame rate in games on average of about 3%.

But in the end it is still personal choice and you have to do what is right for you and what you like, and if nothing else you can always reinstall windows 7

Oh and for the Turkey annalogy .... I got windows 8 after thanksgiving ... It is in early October in Canada.

  Ridelynn

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OP  11/05/12 2:51:04 PM#49


Originally posted by Arcondo87
all you need to know about Windows 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw

Personally i will buy Windows 8 just so i can run it over with my car....


That is actually a really good video to watch. It points out a lot of the shortcomings as well as a lot of the nice new things (even though the overall tone of the video is negative).

  mikuniman

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11/05/12 4:04:24 PM#50
Originally posted by Arcondo87

all you need to know about Windows 8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw

Personally i will buy Windows 8 just so i can run it over with my car....

Wow,  people are so dramatic with change, but thanks for the video it gives me an idea of the big picture.  I like the new look, and really it would take little time to clean it up and make it your own. Basically for that dirt cheap upgrade you get touch capabilities and better connectivity between your win based tablets and phones. For you keyboard dinosaurs it would take just as little time to change up the ui for that also. You buy any new tech these days get it home it always takes some sort of setup.

For me I see this as an option to replace my notebook with a tablet pc with win8 and since I'm about due for a new phone it all makes sense to do that also. For my desktop gaming rig can't see how it would benefit me right off. I usually wait  for hardware to catch up but watching that video gives me the itch to check it out sooner.

  User Deleted
11/05/12 4:08:30 PM#51

Windows 8 is the ugliest, most unintuitive OS I have ever used. It even feels clunky with a mouse and keyboard, which means Microsoft probably designed it for touch first, and the desktop as an afterthought.

Maybe Microsoft will pull its head out of the proverbial backside for Windows 9.

  Torvaldr

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11/05/12 4:42:03 PM#52
Originally posted by Ridelynn

It's been a bit over a week now.

Honestly, now, I can pretty easily say that I've adjusted to Win8. But probably not how Microsoft wanted me to.

First off, I largely have been able to ignore Metro/Modern/whatever. I have not used any of the various hacks/utilities to boot straight to the desktop - but after booting, that's usually what I end up doing - going right to the desktop, where I have set shortcuts for my most used programs. I also made "Tiles" for them (for the sake of figuring out how to do it), but I rarely do anything from the new Start screen if I don't have to.

I still have a general dislike for Metro apps. The full screen still looks poor to me on a computer monitor, I have a difficult time finding the UI elements. For instance, I still can't find "Print" in the email client, although Ctrl-P will bring it up - I doubt having keyboard shortcuts was the way they intended a touchscreen based program to function. I can't decide if not having the ability to quit a Metro app (at least via the GUI - sure you can kill it from the Task Manager, or Alt-F4 it) is a feature (because most tablets/phones don't "quit" processes, they just sleep merrily in the background and don't really consume any resources, and the same occurs in Win8 for the most part) or just lazy. If I can avoid using a program that uses the new interface, I avoid it. Fortunately, I haven't found anything that requires it yet.

i did a little browsing of the Windows Store - nothing caught my eye. Mostly the same junk I see in the iOS App Store, only it's for Windows... yay for more Angry Birds, and do I really need a dedicated Netflix app when it runs fine in my web browser.

A good tip for Shutdown. This I have found useful:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-shutdown-windows-8-in-just-one-click
Alternatively, you could also go into Energy Management and set your computer to "Shutdown" or "Sleep" when you push the power button - making your hardware perform the same function.

All in all, I use Win8 almost identically to the way I used 7, and I'm either ignoring or actively working around most of the "new" UI elements.

This has mostly been my experience as well.

I like the new start menu and how search works when you're at the start menu.  I like the start menu because I can basically configure all my desktop shortcuts that i like to use without cluttering up my desktop or task bar.  The only apps I have pasted to my taskbar are the 3 browsers, Zune, a couple games, Notepad++, KeePass, and File Explorer.  Office, my development tools, and a few others that I start often.

I'm not a huge fan of the Modern apps either.  They are underpowered siblings to their desktop counterparts.  Not only is full screen for a desktop non-productive (we had that in DOS and moved to Windows for a reason), but the interface is just clunky for the desktop.  At this point in UI design they should function similarly but display differently across various devices and the limitations to the app should be specific to the device not the other way around.

The one thing that I had to work around is how VPN works.  I use KeePass because I have a ton of complex passwords to track and it doesn't work well with the network flyout (click the network connection icon in the notification area).  When you tab out to copy/paste the user/pwd the flyout doesn't remember what you just pasted in.  To work around this I created desktop shortcuts that call the rasphone.exe and then added them all to a folder that is a custom toolbar on my taskbar.

Anyway I love how fast it starts even when loaded with prefetch apps.  I like how my settings and store apps populate across my logins.  I really like the tie-in to Skydrive.  Skydrive needs a bit more custom control over folders like my Google Drive has.  It also needs to be configured so it can replace my system folders.  Libraries almost allow this now, but it needs to be seamless.

Overall I'm happy with Win8.  I'm sure it will get the polish it needs.

Curse you AquaScum!

  Tamanous

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11/05/12 4:46:05 PM#53

Once alternate/retro UI is introduced in so called 8.5 all will be good. Windows 8 isn't meant for power users atm on pcs but more a work flow option to laptops and mobiles.

 

Once enterprise editions come out to complete the seemless work flow from pc through smallest devices it will most likely be the best OS option out there ... even the haters may have to admit it. Bit of a wait and see though.

You stay sassy!

  Ridelynn

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OP  11/16/12 11:54:31 AM#54

http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicshell/

Life is back to normal.

  lizardbones

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11/16/12 12:06:14 PM#55


Originally posted by mikuniman

Originally posted by Arcondo87 all you need to know about Windows 8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw Personally i will buy Windows 8 just so i can run it over with my car....
Wow,  people are so dramatic with change, but thanks for the video it gives me an idea of the big picture.  I like the new look, and really it would take little time to clean it up and make it your own. Basically for that dirt cheap upgrade you get touch capabilities and better connectivity between your win based tablets and phones. For you keyboard dinosaurs it would take just as little time to change up the ui for that also. You buy any new tech these days get it home it always takes some sort of setup.

For me I see this as an option to replace my notebook with a tablet pc with win8 and since I'm about due for a new phone it all makes sense to do that also. For my desktop gaming rig can't see how it would benefit me right off. I usually wait  for hardware to catch up but watching that video gives me the itch to check it out sooner.




Not sure about anything else, but Windows 8 doesn't do anything for gaming. It doesn't really hurt it, but it doesn't help it either.

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  botrytis

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11/16/12 12:10:35 PM#56
Originally posted by Yamota
I dont think this hybrid tablet-desktop OS is "where the wind is blowing". It just shows that Microsoft is out of touch as Apple was smart enough to realise that tablets/phones and desktops are vastly different animals and why they didnt bridge their desktop OS with their phone/tablet one. It is like trying to mimic driving a car like a motorcycle, sorry it cannot be done. They are too different.

Some peoplel want the same experience from phone to desktop. Phones are gettting powerful enough to use a multitasking OS. Both iOS and Android are not - period. I have an iPhone, from work, and hate the bloody thing.

 

I know people that have used Win 8 since beta and they really like it. Yes, the UI takes some getting used to but you can turn it off in the OS - you don't have to use Metro. ALso, the security is more beefed up in 8 compared to 7.

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  Rusque

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11/16/12 12:18:22 PM#57
Guess I'm the odd man out here. I think windows 8 is the best windows ever released. A little unintuitive at first, but I had 10 minutes to spare and played around with the hotcorners and shortcuts.
  Castillle

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11/16/12 12:22:43 PM#58
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Yamota
I dont think this hybrid tablet-desktop OS is "where the wind is blowing". It just shows that Microsoft is out of touch as Apple was smart enough to realise that tablets/phones and desktops are vastly different animals and why they didnt bridge their desktop OS with their phone/tablet one. It is like trying to mimic driving a car like a motorcycle, sorry it cannot be done. They are too different.

Some peoplel want the same experience from phone to desktop. Phones are gettting powerful enough to use a multitasking OS. Both iOS and Android are not - period. I have an iPhone, from work, and hate the bloody thing.

 

I know people that have used Win 8 since beta and they really like it. Yes, the UI takes some getting used to but you can turn it off in the OS - you don't have to use Metro. ALso, the security is more beefed up in 8 compared to 7.

You cant turn off metro in the retail version of Win8.  You could in the betas though.

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  ShakyMo

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11/16/12 12:23:38 PM#59
Android Is a multitasking OS. It's one of its main selling points over ios.

It's just Googles version of Linux basicly.
  ShakyMo

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11/16/12 12:26:30 PM#60
It wants to hurt gaming though lizard.

It's a test bed to see how much shit they can get away with with win 9. E.g. own Windows as a gaming platform like the xbox. If enough suckas buy win 8, welcome to console game prices on the pc in a few tears time, with crappy patch and mod support.
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