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General Discussion  » SWTOR has the best music of any MMORPG .. the game had problems but the music sure as hell didn't

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  Karteli

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OP  10/27/12 3:51:34 AM#21
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by BigAndShiny

SW:TOR's remix of the Binary Suns track from the original OST is so perfect it would make John WIlliams proud.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtVqLwroDio

 

 

(The new section starts at around 0:40)

Sorry but that is such a cheesy attempt of a rearrangement ("remix" is the wrong word mate),

Orchestra= detuned

Harmonic progression = awful

New part = lame

 

JW would have never scored it that way.

I must be tone deft .. because I enjoy hearing it.  Detuned?, lol

 

If you hate the game, thats one thing.  I can sympathize there.  But the music was pretty good.

 

I'm still trying to wrap it around me .. Detuned.. lol :P

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  RavingRabbid

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Remember Rabbids cant play MMO's, but they can dance!

10/27/12 3:51:42 AM#22
Holy fing batpoop Batman!!!! Karteli is actually complimenting something about SWTOR!! I'm going to have a heart attack!!!!!! Call the paramedics!!!!!!!

All my opinions are just that..opinions. If you like my opinions..coolness.If you dont like my opinion....I really dont care.
Playing: SWTOR, Marvel Heroes and WOT.

  Methos12

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10/27/12 3:54:47 AM#23
Originally posted by Swanea

Dont get me wrong, I love the music, I have the CD and star wars music has always been amazing.  But there are a fair number of games that just have some epic music.  I thought the original gw was great (Soule did do KotOR I believe?).  I thought Age of Conans was pretty epic and well done.  WoW has it's moments, few and far between, but when they hit, wowwy!

 

I don't know if I could say this game has the best music, just because John Williams made so much of it so long ago, and it wasn't created just for the game.  The music created just for the game is quite good though.

Seconding AoC. Such an amazing soundtrack that doesn't get enough attention becuase of how the game turned out. Also yes, I'd argue GW1 has better soundtrack than GW2, but mainly becuase Soule opted for a more subdued and atmospheric soundtrack in the sequel so you barely hear it by design when exploring. Both Final Fantasy MMOs have amazing soundtracks that retain the series' core roots, yet also works as something you can listen to for a long time in an MMO.

Problem with TOR's soundtrack is that it's basically just retreading the same old songs we're all familiar with so it feels incredibly samey and cashing in on nostalgia, aside from few good new songs. One good SW game that did its own thing with the soundtrack and triumphed because of it would be Republic Commando.

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  Karteli

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OP  10/27/12 3:56:36 AM#24
Originally posted by RavingRabbid
Holy fing batpoop Batman!!!! Karteli is actually complimenting something about SWTOR!! I'm going to have a heart attack!!!!!! Call the paramedics!!!!!!!

Heaven forbid I'm actually a SW fan !! :P

 

I hate the F2P model, but I love the art.. will that make me a .. . is there a word to describe a lover and a hater?

 

Actually if you read my posts, you'd realize my best interests are for Star Wars, even if I massively critisize EA and what they are doing :P

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  Yakamomoto

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10/27/12 3:57:49 AM#25
Originally posted by Karteli
 

 

Mind linking the Age of Conan songs you liked?

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDx3frjt3O4&feature=related

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g5KYv2oqXk&feature=related

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3OB8vDw7EE

 

some more on youtube, check related videos

  Yakamomoto

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10/27/12 4:05:58 AM#26
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by BigAndShiny

SW:TOR's remix of the Binary Suns track from the original OST is so perfect it would make John WIlliams proud.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtVqLwroDio

 

 

(The new section starts at around 0:40)

Sorry but that is such a cheesy attempt of a rearrangement ("remix" is the wrong word mate),

Orchestra= detuned

Harmonic progression = awful

New part = lame

 

JW would have never scored it that way.

I must be tone deft .. because I enjoy hearing it.  Detuned?, lol

 

If you hate the game, thats one thing.  I can sympathize there.  But the music was pretty good.

 

I'm still trying to wrap it around me .. Detuned.. lol :P

 

Compare to the original, that doesn´t mean I don´t like the game, but the new TOR ingame music doesn´t live up to any track by JW. They should have used more material by JW. There are some tracks in game by JW, but not enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxDm-4Jrg9w

  Karteli

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OP  10/27/12 4:12:01 AM#27
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by Yakamomoto
Originally posted by BigAndShiny

SW:TOR's remix of the Binary Suns track from the original OST is so perfect it would make John WIlliams proud.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtVqLwroDio

 

 

(The new section starts at around 0:40)

Sorry but that is such a cheesy attempt of a rearrangement ("remix" is the wrong word mate),

Orchestra= detuned

Harmonic progression = awful

New part = lame

 

JW would have never scored it that way.

I must be tone deft .. because I enjoy hearing it.  Detuned?, lol

 

If you hate the game, thats one thing.  I can sympathize there.  But the music was pretty good.

 

I'm still trying to wrap it around me .. Detuned.. lol :P

 

Compare to the original, that doesn´t mean I don´t like the game, but the new TOR ingame music doesn´t live up to any track by JW. They should have used more material by JW. There are some tracks in game by JW, but not enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxDm-4Jrg9w

There is only so much music by John Williams (JW).  But I agree JW did it best. JW had power when he did composition.

 

But SWTOR was a new generation.  Composers tried to capture the moment and put it into hours of music for a MMORPG.  It can't all be JW,  but it was pretty good none-the-less.

 

JW didn't compose enough for a MMORPG, so it was improvised.

 

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  RavingRabbid

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Posts: 1132

Remember Rabbids cant play MMO's, but they can dance!

10/27/12 5:58:00 AM#28
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by RavingRabbid
Holy fing batpoop Batman!!!! Karteli is actually complimenting something about SWTOR!! I'm going to have a heart attack!!!!!! Call the paramedics!!!!!!!

Heaven forbid I'm actually a SW fan !! :P

 

I hate the F2P model, but I love the art.. will that make me a .. . is there a word to describe a lover and a hater?

 

Actually if you read my posts, you'd realize my best interests are for Star Wars, even if I massively critisize EA and what they are doing :P

I have read many of your posts..some were a bit ....harsh. Perhaps from your point of view probroly so. Here's where I'm coming from....love the stories, pvp, and crafting. I don't like the themepark, rails starship combat, or limited character customization. I just take the game for what it is. IMO there are far worse games out there, but unfortunately SWTOR seems to be the proverbial punching bag. Oh we'll....

I'm a big Star Wars fan also. I remember sitting in the theater with my jaw to the floor when I was 7 years old watching the 1st movie. 

All my opinions are just that..opinions. If you like my opinions..coolness.If you dont like my opinion....I really dont care.
Playing: SWTOR, Marvel Heroes and WOT.

  Rimmersman

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10/27/12 6:12:10 AM#29
AOC-Vanguard-LOTRO-WOW

  noncley

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10/27/12 6:12:48 AM#30

I have to say that when the game first came out, I thought the music was pretty poor - rather ham-fisted knock-offs of the John Williams originals. I should have known then that this would be symptomatic of the whole approach taken by EA/BW to this game.

I know the fanbois hate comparisons of SWTOR with SWG but Star Wars Galaxies definitely had an edge in this area since it was allowed to use the original Williams music.

  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

10/27/12 9:21:05 AM#31

My absolute favorite:

Balmorra, The Forge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF7ROkpzQ1c

I LOL on one of the comment to video:

Quote: In soviet russia this? would be the national anthem

 

The Mandalorian Blockade is epic too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5MoBb8-75E&feature=relmfu

 

Also I love combat music:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5ulTRodO0w&list=SP9B4051A08A65C57B&index=28&feature=plpp_video

Final duel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V76tPVsnexk&feature=relmfu

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522uGI-8dtE&feature=relmfu


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  User Deleted
10/27/12 9:31:02 AM#32
LOTRO (where you can even write your own) and AOC have better music just to name a pair.  Star Wars scores have been heard at enough movies and football games to be worn and not so special anymore. They need to freshen up the style to maintain relavence.
  Eir_S

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10/27/12 9:33:15 AM#33
I don't agree.  Sure it's great music, but a lot of it is recycled from the movies or (I think) even the Clone Wars cartoon... which could have been recycled from the movies.  Since John WIlliams is probably never going to write music exclusively for an MMO, and not many people are a tenth as talented as he is, they're pretty much forced to recycle if they want Star Wars style tunes.
  TigerAero

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10/27/12 9:37:26 AM#34
I agree, the music was great! However, now that it's F2P it's in the realm of the welfare dogs so I'll never touch it again. I always wished they'd take a look at PVP or PVP balance or something...never really seemed to.
  cybertrucker

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10/27/12 9:43:38 AM#35

I'm sorry but this is definately the most epic and best MMO music of all time !

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6PttciaUv9s

  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

10/27/12 9:49:36 AM#36
Originally posted by cybertrucker

I'm sorry but this is definately the most epic and best MMO music of all time !

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6PttciaUv9s

As much as I love EQ2 it's not a match to SWTOR music in my opinion.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  ShakyMo

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10/27/12 11:12:31 AM#37
I don't know. Tsw, eve and Aoc have better soundtracks imo.

I would probably put tsw at number 1 because of the variety.
  Gorilla

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10/27/12 11:25:01 AM#38
Of course it's all a matter of opinion but I have to disagree. AoC trumps ToR, and no helene bøksle didn't make me cry it was eye strain from playing to long.
  Baratuk

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10/27/12 11:34:29 AM#39

I know its hokey, but my favorite music from an mmo still has to be Everquest 1. I just love the midi music from it. For example, the following link is from the boat ride you could take from freeport dock to butcherblock.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSNXH5nBRU0

  ShakyMo

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10/27/12 11:37:51 AM#40
Gorilla
If you like Aoc soundtrack, tsws is by the same people but slightly better imo. Check out Helen boksle - sirens song.
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