Trending Games | Swordsman | Rift | World of Warcraft | ArcheAge

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,736,845 Users Online:0
Games:714  Posts:6,175,631
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Deco Online Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Phoenix Edition LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Project Blackout Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Puzzle Pirates Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Hammers End The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Total Domination Transformers Universe Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Rift

Rift 

General Discussion  » Sorry, but I cannot subscribe.

5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Search
99 posts found
  Aerowyn

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

10/26/12 11:29:50 AM#61
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by mWo4life

I have Rift trial account. I just reached lvl 20 and to continue to play it  I need to buy the game and to subscribe. I can buy the game with expansion, no problem, what is stopping me is subscription. I just don't want to pay to play.

I also play GW2 and EVE now, and I cannot see any justification why I should pay sub-fee in Rift. Combat is boring tap-targeting, graphics is outdated, no voiced cut-scenes, all quests are like kill 10x of this, collect 10x of that, etc. GW2 provides better experience for me without sub-fee than Rift with sub-fees. Ppl say Rift has good end-game. Maybe, but it will take me months before I reach it. So why bother, if I don't know I will even like it? The only sub-fees that I tolerate atm are in EVE. And this is because, I have an option to pay the fees using in-game currency.

 

 

So what are you looking for? Sounds like you made your choice.

same thing as any of these kinds of posts in any games forum.. to get attention, complain and sir things up... but i suppose without them the forums would be pretty silent... 

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  PsyMike3d

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/01/11
Posts: 394

Sorry for my English xD

10/26/12 11:37:30 AM#62
Originally posted by mWo4life

 graphics is outdated

 

Are you serious?!?!

Rift has awsome graphics probably better in general than GW2.

GW2 has better shaders/materials but Rift's artstyle/models/atmosphere are ways superior!

  f0dell54

Novice Member

Joined: 4/16/12
Posts: 311

Sanity....
It's for the weak.

10/26/12 11:40:23 AM#63
Originally posted by FlawSGI
Originally posted by alancode
Omg I don't see how people have a problem paying a TINY tiny 15 dollars a month....really? really. Going to the movie theater on friday night with your buds is more than 15 dollars...and that is for 2 hours...It is just 15 bucks

And I can't understand why so many people on these forums get hung up on the amount of the sub and discredit peoples opinions when they don't feel it's a value. Price and Value are not the same thing. I have no problem paying a sub for a game, but none have been worth the price nor has the cost varied or been justified by any developers. The only exception I have found was EVE and that's because you aren't charged for the expansions. When they say the sub pays for the further development guess what, it actually does and your monthly sub is returned in the form of the content you have been paying for every month.

I refuse to pay a sub for a lot of titles I bought and it has ZERO to do with whether or not I can afford it. Never has and never will. When I don't play games I am much more inclined to blow money on dumb stuff so playing a MMO actually saves me money. OP, you pretty much didn't do what I am talking about because you came across as whining about the price so I can see why you get the flak, but to turn this into a statement about anyone not agreeing with a sub should stop playing because they are poor is pretty dumb. Other than how the issue was put out there, I agree that I also couldn't subscribe to Rift and there is no reason to be sorry. Move on OP.

 

So let me get this straight you think that paying for a sub is only for content released and that sub money is returned in the form of content. Then in the next paragraph say that you couldn't subscribe to Rift, eventhough Trion release more content and updates then any other company; including CCP. That is with being charged for expansion or not. 

You completely contradicted yourself. Atleast you could have said, "Hey I don't like Rift and neither do you we won't sub." But instead you just talked in circles.

 

I'm confused

  kitarad

Hard Core Member

Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 1174

10/26/12 11:40:40 AM#64

Whether a game has a sub or not has never been a consideratin for me playing it. If the game is fun I will sub simple as that. 

 

That comment about content is rubbish too as Trion has been releasing content like very very often in fact it has been hailed as a standard other games should follow by people on this very board.

  f0dell54

Novice Member

Joined: 4/16/12
Posts: 311

Sanity....
It's for the weak.

10/26/12 11:43:26 AM#65
Originally posted by mWo4life

graphics is outdated, no voiced cut-scenes

 

Graphics do look bad if your running a crappy computer. If you can max out Rift it looks pretty decent and on par with GW2 in my opinion.

 

Yes, we all know voice over cut scenes make the mmo. I mean look at SWTOR is doing wonderful.

  GeezerGamer

Elite Member

Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 4388

It's a combination of Nightingale Armor with the Mod Truebound Deadric Armors

10/26/12 11:49:47 AM#66
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by mWo4life

I have Rift trial account. I just reached lvl 20 and to continue to play it  I need to buy the game and to subscribe. I can buy the game with expansion, no problem, what is stopping me is subscription. I just don't want to pay to play.

I also play GW2 and EVE now, and I cannot see any justification why I should pay sub-fee in Rift. Combat is boring tap-targeting, graphics is outdated, no voiced cut-scenes, all quests are like kill 10x of this, collect 10x of that, etc. GW2 provides better experience for me without sub-fee than Rift with sub-fees. Ppl say Rift has good end-game. Maybe, but it will take me months before I reach it. So why bother, if I don't know I will even like it? The only sub-fees that I tolerate atm are in EVE. And this is because, I have an option to pay the fees using in-game currency.

 

 

So what are you looking for? Sounds like you made your choice.

same thing as any of these kinds of posts in any games forum.. to get attention, complain and sir things up... but i suppose without them the forums would be pretty silent... 

HAHA, yeah, true. But yeah, I admit it, I come here for the PVP.

Recently started playing SWTOR. I am posting updates to my experience in this thread:
SWTOR Experience

  Aerowyn

Novice Member

Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

10/26/12 11:51:04 AM#67
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by GeezerGamer
Originally posted by mWo4life

I have Rift trial account. I just reached lvl 20 and to continue to play it  I need to buy the game and to subscribe. I can buy the game with expansion, no problem, what is stopping me is subscription. I just don't want to pay to play.

I also play GW2 and EVE now, and I cannot see any justification why I should pay sub-fee in Rift. Combat is boring tap-targeting, graphics is outdated, no voiced cut-scenes, all quests are like kill 10x of this, collect 10x of that, etc. GW2 provides better experience for me without sub-fee than Rift with sub-fees. Ppl say Rift has good end-game. Maybe, but it will take me months before I reach it. So why bother, if I don't know I will even like it? The only sub-fees that I tolerate atm are in EVE. And this is because, I have an option to pay the fees using in-game currency.

 

 

So what are you looking for? Sounds like you made your choice.

same thing as any of these kinds of posts in any games forum.. to get attention, complain and sir things up... but i suppose without them the forums would be pretty silent... 

HAHA, yeah, true. But yeah, I admit it, I come here for the PVP.

didn't start that way for me but guess it's become that heh:P

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  halflife25

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

10/26/12 11:55:11 AM#68
Originally posted by Candomble
The most entertaining about OP is that to him the game is not good (combat, graphics, quests), but even so he would buy it and keep playing if it wasn't for the sub fee. Is it masochism?

It is a skewed mentality. 

'Hey this game has bad graphics, combat..no voice acting. I am not paying a sub for this game, but if it was free i would play it'.

If game is crap it is crap... if it has no sub fee all above mentioned stuff is not going to get automaticaly better. 

  FlawSGI

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/14/10
Posts: 1387

All of history is a lie. The truth depends on who does the listening, and who does the telling...

10/26/12 11:56:58 AM#69
Originally posted by f0dell54
Originally posted by FlawSGI
Originally posted by alancode
Omg I don't see how people have a problem paying a TINY tiny 15 dollars a month....really? really. Going to the movie theater on friday night with your buds is more than 15 dollars...and that is for 2 hours...It is just 15 bucks

And I can't understand why so many people on these forums get hung up on the amount of the sub and discredit peoples opinions when they don't feel it's a value. Price and Value are not the same thing. I have no problem paying a sub for a game, but none have been worth the price nor has the cost varied or been justified by any developers. The only exception I have found was EVE and that's because you aren't charged for the expansions. When they say the sub pays for the further development guess what, it actually does and your monthly sub is returned in the form of the content you have been paying for every month.

I refuse to pay a sub for a lot of titles I bought and it has ZERO to do with whether or not I can afford it. Never has and never will. When I don't play games I am much more inclined to blow money on dumb stuff so playing a MMO actually saves me money. OP, you pretty much didn't do what I am talking about because you came across as whining about the price so I can see why you get the flak, but to turn this into a statement about anyone not agreeing with a sub should stop playing because they are poor is pretty dumb. Other than how the issue was put out there, I agree that I also couldn't subscribe to Rift and there is no reason to be sorry. Move on OP.

 

So let me get this straight you think that paying for a sub is only for content released and that sub money is returned in the form of content. Then in the next paragraph say that you couldn't subscribe to Rift, eventhough Trion release more content and updates then any other company; including CCP. That is with being charged for expansion or not. 

You completely contradicted yourself. Atleast you could have said, "Hey I don't like Rift and neither do you we won't sub." But instead you just talked in circles.

 

I'm confused

No, I was saying that I haven't played a game where I felt the cost was justified and an example I was giving was when devs say the cost is for further development of the product yet people still have to pay for the expansions. I have never played EVE, but I respect how they handle their content releases. I also don't understand why $15 is the amount that almost ever P2P game sets on but that's neither here nor there and ties into why I haven't felt that most games were not worth the monthly entitlements. 

As for my Rift comment, I meant it simply as I agree that I also couldn't pay for a sub and I never stated it had anything to do with their amount of released content because they do release it faster than a lot of other games. I just didn't feel the need to go into my many reasons I don't enjoy the game because I have done so in the past and didn't really want to turn this into a response regarding my many dislikes for the game. I'll list them to clear it up for you though. 

* 2 starter zones makes rolling an alt a very boring ordeal,

* overly streamlined quest hub to quest hub experience lending little into exploration and choice,

* obnoxiouse amount of skills that appear to do a lot of the same stuff cluddering up my UI,

* the souls system for some classes were aweful,

* gameplay felt too grindy although leveling was fast, it was a bore to me,

* rifts quickly became repetative and sometimes when there was an absence of others they were impossible to clear so you can get your NPC back,

* the world was shallow and small and the fact that you had pretty much one leveling path made it more so.

I'll stop there. These are just my opinions on why I realy couldn't see myself playing the game. You are correct, I could have worded it differently I suppose but the point of the whole things was the fact that people like to bash others when they don't feel a game is worth it's sub fee and try to belittle them by stating how frugel they sound over the price when for some it has nothing to do with the price itself. I in no way contradicted myself, I just didn't feel the need to repeat my dislikes for the title other than I agree I could't pay the sub.

RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.

  hfztt

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 590

10/26/12 12:00:47 PM#70
Originally posted by jdnewell

Rift is one of the better MMOs on the market IMO.

All the free content, updates, events ( that dont require real money to enjoy ), ect make it well worth the sub fee. If your hung up on $15 a month then nothing anyone says will really persuade you anyways. F2P and B2P you usually get what you pay for.

Yes even with GW2 ( and I am a fan who plays almost daily ). I guess I am old school and would rather pay a sub and not get nickle and dimed to death from the F2P / B2P models. I personally would be happier paying $15 month with GW2 and have no gem store than the current model. But I realize I am in the minority here.

Good luck with whatever you choose =)

Greates trick they pulled off with GW2 was to convince everybody it's B2P. Really its F2P, just without any actual free part... Nice trick.

  cronius77

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1281

10/26/12 12:04:44 PM#71
forum pvp is fun here because so many people have the most insane stances on games ive ever seen. Its not about hey try this its fun , oh no i do not like that try this anymore. Instead especially with guild wars 2 fans here (not all of course) its my game is so superior im going to post threads in every other game forum i can to rile up as many people as i can. It seems to like majority of the posts come from a bunch of kids to especially this free to play crap argument about how they cant go back to pay to play games because the quality is so great with free to play games. Guild wars 2 is not great OP its shallow and has at least 6 months of patches before id even consider it a contender with games like rift and wow or even  everquest 2. I think most people here would much rather pay 15 bucks a month for quality then putting stupid gambling boxes in game to try milk the loyal fans of free to play games like guild wars 2. Seriously OP if you cant stomach 15 bucks a month or dont like it , get a job and stop living off your parents...
  User Deleted
10/26/12 12:07:19 PM#72
Originally posted by mWo4life

I have Rift trial account. I just reached lvl 20 and to continue to play it  I need to buy the game and to subscribe. I can buy the game with expansion, no problem, what is stopping me is subscription. I just don't want to pay to play.

I also play GW2 and EVE now, and I cannot see any justification why I should pay sub-fee in Rift. Combat is boring tap-targeting, graphics is outdated, no voiced cut-scenes, all quests are like kill 10x of this, collect 10x of that, etc. GW2 provides better experience for me without sub-fee than Rift with sub-fees. Ppl say Rift has good end-game. Maybe, but it will take me months before I reach it. So why bother, if I don't know I will even like it? The only sub-fees that I tolerate atm are in EVE. And this is because, I have an option to pay the fees using in-game currency.

 

 

You're absolutely right. There is no justification. Altho I like Trion's honesty with their players and the speed at which they churn out content and updates with actual fun things to do, there really isn't a justification at this point to pay a sub.

GW2 you can buy things by exchanging gold for gems so it's the same concept as Eves using in game currency to pay for a sub. 

Their model seems to be the only one that lasts.

Love the argument that GW2 isn't great because it doesn't have a sub. Talk about poor delusional people. It's great because it has VO, a vibrant world, and secrets to find explore and overcome outside of dungeons. Even Trion has noticed it's success and has made changes to their game accordingly. Saying it isn't good or that it hasn't affected the entire industry is like saying everything in an ecosystem is completely separate so killing this animal to extinction isn't going to affect anything else living there.

 

  BigAndShiny

Novice Member

Joined: 6/06/11
Posts: 177

10/26/12 12:11:15 PM#73

The thing is, Rift has tonnes of content.   It has a hardworking team of developers and a great patch schedule.  The graphics may not be incredible, but they're certainly satisfactory. 

 

The problem is that I don't want to play another MMO with NO SPECIAL FEATURES.  Apart from the fact that there's lots of content, Rift has nothing different about it.   The combat is the same that we've always seen.  It has neither the animations of SW:TOR, the movement of GW2, or the action-combat feel of Tera.  Rift doesn't have the lore and cutscenes/story of SW:TOR, nor does it have the beautiful environments of GW2. 

Who cares about a lot of content when it's just fighting more boring mobs with more standard combat without any story in a derivate cliched universe that makes no effort to draw the player into the lore or plot and provides them with no motivation to progress in any way except gear?   

The main reason to play Rift is that it provides a frequent amount of endgame content and progression for serious players.  However, that motivation is exactly the same as WoW, a game that was released 7 years before it. 

  halflife25

Apprentice Member

Joined: 9/13/12
Posts: 787

10/26/12 12:14:24 PM#74
Originally posted by BigAndShiny

The thing is, Rift has tonnes of content.   It has a hardworking team of developers and a great patch schedule.  The graphics may not be incredible, but they're certainly satisfactory. 

 

The problem is that I don't want to play another MMO with NO SPECIAL FEATURES.  Apart from the fact that there's lots of content, Rift has nothing different about it.   The combat is the same that we've always seen.  It has neither the animations of SW:TOR, the movement of GW2, or the action-combat feel of Tera.  Rift doesn't have the lore and cutscenes/story of SW:TOR, nor does it have the beautiful environments of GW2. 

Who cares about a lot of content when it's just fighting more boring mobs with more standard combat without any story in a derivate cliched universe that makes no effort to draw the player into the lore or plot and provides them with no motivation to progress in any way except gear?   

The main reason to play Rift is that it provides a frequent amount of endgame content and progression for serious players.  However, that motivation is exactly the same as WoW, a game that was released 7 years before it. 

If you had played Rift recently you will realise that Rift isn't about end game raiding progression anymore. They have added a lot of alternative ways of progression.Something they are goign to expand upon with new expansion. Yes raiding is a big part of Rift but not the focus of entire game.

As far as cliche universe.....nothign is more cliche than evil dragons and everyone is a hero ready  to save the world. Sounds familiar? yeah...and yet you enjoy that cliche universe in GW2. Matter of taste and all.

  FlawSGI

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/14/10
Posts: 1387

All of history is a lie. The truth depends on who does the listening, and who does the telling...

10/26/12 12:14:35 PM#75
Originally posted by cronius77
forum pvp is fun here because so many people have the most insane stances on games ive ever seen. Its not about hey try this its fun , oh no i do not like that try this anymore. Instead especially with guild wars 2 fans here (not all of course) its my game is so superior im going to post threads in every other game forum i can to rile up as many people as i can. It seems to like majority of the posts come from a bunch of kids to especially this free to play crap argument about how they cant go back to pay to play games because the quality is so great with free to play games. Guild wars 2 is not great OP its shallow and has at least 6 months of patches before id even consider it a contender with games like rift and wow or even  everquest 2. I think most people here would much rather pay 15 bucks a month for quality then putting stupid gambling boxes in game to try milk the loyal fans of free to play games like guild wars 2. Seriously OP if you cant stomach 15 bucks a month or dont like it , get a job and stop living off your parents...

Case and point :)     Sad really.....  

To the green portion I can agree with you but it's your tone... it's all wrong....  I also don't see many arguments claiming F2P has superior quality over P2P. I think a lot of people understand what they sacrifice for a game to be free. There are some delusional ones though I'll give you that. I do however (me included) see people argue over the lack of quality in P2P games on the market. But that's not saying F2P has superior quality. 

To the yellow  I see you claim others try to rile up people yet you make this asinine statement. Hypocrisy...

RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.

  Eir_S

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4670

GW2 socialist.

10/26/12 12:16:06 PM#76
A friend of mine tried Rift out recently.  She was excited first, and was all like "This will get the GW2 disappointment out of my mouth".  Less than a week later, she was back to GW2, and I watched on Skype screenshare as she deleted Rift from her pc lol.  I found it fun for longer than a week..... two, in fact.
  cronius77

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/26/12
Posts: 1281

10/26/12 12:24:06 PM#77
Originally posted by FlawSGI
Originally posted by cronius77
forum pvp is fun here because so many people have the most insane stances on games ive ever seen. Its not about hey try this its fun , oh no i do not like that try this anymore. Instead especially with guild wars 2 fans here (not all of course) its my game is so superior im going to post threads in every other game forum i can to rile up as many people as i can. It seems to like majority of the posts come from a bunch of kids to especially this free to play crap argument about how they cant go back to pay to play games because the quality is so great with free to play games. Guild wars 2 is not great OP its shallow and has at least 6 months of patches before id even consider it a contender with games like rift and wow or even  everquest 2. I think most people here would much rather pay 15 bucks a month for quality then putting stupid gambling boxes in game to try milk the loyal fans of free to play games like guild wars 2. Seriously OP if you cant stomach 15 bucks a month or dont like it , get a job and stop living off your parents...

Case and point :)     Sad really.....  

To the green portion I can agree with you but it's your tone... it's all wrong....  I also don't see many arguments claiming F2P has superior quality over P2P. I think a lot of people understand what they sacrifice for a game to be free. There are some delusional ones though I'll give you that. I do however (me included) see people argue over the lack of quality in P2P games on the market. But that's not saying F2P has superior quality. 

To the yellow  I see you claim others try to rile up people yet you make this asinine statement. Hypocrisy...

hey now i never said i didnt like forum pvp i enjoy it as with the first statement. But you are right some companies release a game hence swtor warhammer online etc and are crap quality and the vision of a select few and they tank but still expect everyone to pay for a sub. But there is posts like 3 or 4 above here to that make no sense at all like saying paying a sub after guild wars 2 released is stupid and pointless. No IMO you are just a jobless cheap skate if you take that argument (not you the poster 3 or 4 above) Im so sick of seeing the free to play arguement championed here by guild wars 2 fans because most of them seem to be cheap kids living off mommy still . Guild Wars 2 is a 60.00 free to play game not buy to play yet their loyal fans (most of them) cannot seem to see it for what it is.  You have to gem to open up inventory slots , bank slots , now gambling chests..... and this is coming from someone who still plays it off and on also.  Im just sick of people here complaining about sub fees like free to play is so much better when every model ive ever seen from lotr online to eq2 , all milk the crap out of its playerbases including guild wars 2 , though they do it as its not "needed" but they rely on impulse buying with chests instead to milk their players.

  Candomble

Novice Member

Joined: 7/15/11
Posts: 167

10/26/12 12:26:32 PM#78
Originally posted by Eir_S
A friend of mine tried Rift out recently.  She was excited first, and was all like "This will get the GW2 disappointment out of my mouth".  Less than a week later, she was back to GW2, and I watched on Skype screenshare as she deleted Rift from her pc lol.  I found it fun for longer than a week..... two, in fact.

I found GW2 fun for about a week also. Funny thing, peoples tastes. And I don't play Rift either. 

  Silok

Advanced Member

Joined: 6/22/06
Posts: 742

10/26/12 12:36:18 PM#79
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

we will see when the next round of mmo's are released..planetside is next and is free 2 play. can you name an mmorpg coming out soon that will have a sub? Subcriptions are dead.

Sorry it took me a few minutes to stop laughing to reply.

Subs are dead yet the most successful MMO in history still has 10 million subs 8 yrs later and counting.

Add to that the fact that TITAN is going to be sub based and crush everything on the market when it arrives and you think sub-based is dead. lol.

well i'm laughing at you now, because only one mmo can maintain subs every other mmo has gone f2p..that is one mmo out of dozens and dozens. you don't know anything about titan or whether it will be sub based or f2p, but the fanboi is strong in you. you think a game that you know nothing about will crush everything..can i borrow your crystal ball please?

I stop reading there, you must do some research before implying all mmo are f2p, and you should know that mmo like lotro or swotor are not f2p, there are limited, if you want the full content you need to pay.

  User Deleted
10/26/12 12:45:01 PM#80
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by JackFrosty
Then stop complaining and go back to GW2. Bye.

Lol, the thing is all these players saying they can never pay for a sub again are going to come unstuck. If they think subs died with the release of GW2 then they are delusional.

All they are doing is limiting the amount of MMOs they can play.

They'll all pay their sub like good little customers when the next big thing comes around.

 

And promptly reroll another char on MMORPG to avoid embarassment (as if *anyone* really cares).

5 Pages « 1 2 3 4 5 » Search