Originally posted by Ozmodan
Atrocious to sully the Wizardry name with this POS!  Basically nothing from any of the prior Wizardry games is in this one.

-Oh but you are mistaken.

After Wiz 8 the IP was sold to the japenese (Chinese?) and they have literally kicked out TONS of "official" Wizardry games (more than 8 I believe).

To me, Wiz 7 and 8 were phenominal... What happened after that is "official" but not the Wizardry we have come to know and love.

Actually there were a couple Wiz games from Asiai which looked really good but getting a translation was impossible- The ones that DID get translated (including for the PS3) were very "cute". =/

EDIT: Essentially I see your point- My point is that the name has been soiled for a LONG TIME.

Originally posted by Ozmodan
Atrocious to sully the Wizardry name with this POS!  Basically nothing from any of the prior Wizardry games is in this one.

You're like 10 years and ~25 games late to the party to complain about this.

Want something Wizardry?

Support: http://www.indiegogo.com/grimoireforever

Originally posted by AdamTM

Originally posted by Ozmodan
Atrocious to sully the Wizardry name with this POS!  Basically nothing from any of the prior Wizardry games is in this one.

You're like 10 years and ~25 games late to the party to complain about this.

Want something Wizardry?

Support: http://www.indiegogo.com/grimoireforever

Long live CLEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yes...You are SOOOOOOOOO correct.

Originally posted by Ozmodan
Atrocious to sully the Wizardry name with this POS!  Basically nothing from any of the prior Wizardry games is in this one.

Kind of what I'm thinking as well.  Sir-Tech (original founding company) created the Wizardry world.  A new company stepping in is about as useful to gaming as EA creating a new Ultima game (Original for Ultima was Richard Garriott, Origin Systems, Inc.).  Everything EA makes turns to garbage because the "suits" are not even gamers.

The founders for any original game had passion for games and roleplaying.  The "license owning" companies these days are more concerned with how much money they can make, instead of making a superior game.

Geez, how long before a craptastic company comes along and tries to monetize Might and Magic as an MMORPG.  Ugh.

While we're at it, lets also sodomize Bard's Tale.  The SP remake wasn't bad enough?

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Ozmodan
Atrocious to sully the Wizardry name with this POS!  Basically nothing from any of the prior Wizardry games is in this one.

Kind of what I'm thinking as well.  Sir-Tech (original founding company) created the Wizardry world.  A new company stepping in is about as useful to gaming as EA creating a new Ultima game (Original for Ultima was Richard Garriott, Origin Systems, Inc.).

 

The founders for any original game had passion for games and roleplaying.  The new companies these days are more concerned with how much money they can make, instead of making a superior game.

Geez, how long before a craptastic company comes along and tries to monetize Might and Magic as an MMORPG.  Ugh.

...Please do not give them any ideals. Imagine "mandate of heaven" or "World of Xeen" F2P with Cash Shop... You log in and the flashing ad says "Click here to buy Dragon Class" or "$2.99 chest key- Today ONLY"

EDIT: I see you now have given them bards tale as well... Yes the remake was bad... But not 2012 bad...yet...

Originally posted by SaintPhilip

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Ozmodan
Atrocious to sully the Wizardry name with this POS!  Basically nothing from any of the prior Wizardry games is in this one.

Kind of what I'm thinking as well.  Sir-Tech (original founding company) created the Wizardry world.  A new company stepping in is about as useful to gaming as EA creating a new Ultima game (Original for Ultima was Richard Garriott, Origin Systems, Inc.).

 

The founders for any original game had passion for games and roleplaying.  The new companies these days are more concerned with how much money they can make, instead of making a superior game.

Geez, how long before a craptastic company comes along and tries to monetize Might and Magic as an MMORPG.  Ugh.

...Please do not give them any ideals. Imagine "mandate of heaven" or "World of Xeen" F2P with Cash Shop... You log in and the flashing ad says "Click here to buy Dragon Class" or "$2.99 chest key- Today ONLY"

EDIT: I see you now have given them bards tale as well... Yes the remake was bad... But not 2012 bad...yet...

Hehe to your comments :)

Whatever happened to games that are good because they were original? /Peace

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Ozmodan
Atrocious to sully the Wizardry name with this POS!  Basically nothing from any of the prior Wizardry games is in this one.

Kind of what I'm thinking as well.  Sir-Tech (original founding company) created the Wizardry world.  A new company stepping in is about as useful to gaming as EA creating a new Ultima game (Original for Ultima was Richard Garriott, Origin Systems, Inc.).  Everything EA makes turns to garbage because the "suits" are not even gamers.

 

The founders for any original game had passion for games and roleplaying.  The "license owning" companies these days are more concerned with how much money they can make, instead of making a superior game.

Geez, how long before a craptastic company comes along and tries to monetize Might and Magic as an MMORPG.  Ugh.

 

While we're at it, lets also sodomize Bard's Tale.  The SP remake wasn't bad enough?

It was easier back then, all they had was passion. The money wasn't there yet. Not its big business and ya you can go it indie, if you want it to look like a game from 1992.

Sad truth is, games cost money now. A LOT of money and theres way too much competiton and pressure to produce results. I would never want to be a developer in this generation of games. I'm amazed anyone does.

Originally posted by Karteli

While we're at it, lets also sodomize Bard's Tale.  The SP remake wasn't bad enough?

It wasn't that bad. I know a few youngsters who liked it :)

But if you loved the first series, this new version was so thin... and without any respect to the first 3. It almost seemed like a Bard's Tale: The Parody.

Games like these have a tendency to come and go pretty quick. Thye usually fade in obsecurity in few days. Let us see how long this one will last and if all the so called 'hardcore ' players will put their money where there mouth is.

Time to face the music boys and girls. I am in are you? (no i am not hard core and i despise words like care bear).

Originally posted by halflife25

Games like these have a tendency to come and go pretty quick. Thye usually fade in obsecurity in few days. Let us see how long this one will last and if all the so called 'hardcore ' players will put their money where there mouth is.

Time to face the music boys and girls. I am in are you? (no i am not hard core and i despise words like care bear).

Already signed up for beta and yes I'll put my money where my mouth is, like I will for Unholy Wars, Archeage, WoD, like I did for Darkfall, like I did for EVE. Just like many other players will.

Really though, you need to understand that the "hardcore" crowd also want games which are not just bug ridden, highly exploited, badly developed messes. Mortal Online didn't die on it's arse because it was "hardcore".

Half of the time we stick with these games even though they have major major technical issues, limited support and virtually zero funding. If anything it is probably one of the most "loyal" crowds who invest in even piss poor quality products for the long term due to wanting that high risk/open ruleset.

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by Karteli

While we're at it, lets also sodomize Bard's Tale.  The SP remake wasn't bad enough?

It wasn't that bad. I know a few youngsters who liked it :)

But if you loved the first series, this new version was so thin... and without any respect to the first 3. It almost seemed like a Bard's Tale: The Parody.

I liked the original Bard Tale games.  Rough games, and definitely not casual. Lol!

I loved the M&M series more though.  The one really worth playing (IMO) is MM3, which is free as abandonware. 4+ good too, 1-2 were good for the time.  Might and Magic is best left to meories and replayability of the original games.

I sort of feel the same way with Wizardry, the more I think about it.

If someone buys the Sonny & Cher license, can they now start doing Sonny & Cher concerts?  Would fans actually notice their names are really Alfred & Donna?  .... Probably, so will we notice the developers of Wizardry Online are not the same developers from Sir-Tech?  Some might.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by Karteli

While we're at it, lets also sodomize Bard's Tale.  The SP remake wasn't bad enough?

It wasn't that bad. I know a few youngsters who liked it :)

But if you loved the first series, this new version was so thin... and without any respect to the first 3. It almost seemed like a Bard's Tale: The Parody.

I liked the original Bard Tale games.  Rough games, and definitely not casual. Lol!

 

I loved the M&M series more though.  The one really worth playing (IMO) is MM3, which is free as abandonware. 4+ good too, 1-2 were good for the time.  Might and Magic is best left to meories and replayability of the original games.

I sort of feel the same way with Wizardry, the more I think about it.

 

If someone buys the Sonny & Cher license, can they now start doing Sonny & Cher concerts?  Would fans actually notice their names are really Alfred & Donna?  .... Probably, so will we notice the developers of Wizardry Online are not the same developers from Sir-Tech?  Some might.

-Good Sir, I would like to direct your attention to http://www.indiegogo.com/grimoireforever which is truley Wizardry 7.5. This was made by Cleve Blakemore one of the original Sir tech devs who worked on 7 and 8. Its been in the works for about 200 years and is EPIC beyond belief.

I played the demo/beta/whatever like 15 years ago and its still around on certain...um...sites I cannot mention with Skull Flags and Black beards- needs configured in DosBox... Anyhow, its seriously amazing (the 15 year old version) and he has been working on it this whole time.

Here is a good read where he announces this all http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-kickstarter.75724/ as a "kickstarter"

I think this may be right up your alley- Cleve is a...very interesting individual.

Cheers.

Originally posted by bunnyhopper

 

Half of the time we stick with these games even though they have major major technical issues, limited support and virtually zero funding. If anything it is probably one of the most "loyal" crowds who invest in even piss poor quality products for the long term due to wanting that high risk/open ruleset.

Couldn't have said it better myself, so I won't.

/cheers.

Originally posted by SaintPhilip

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by Karteli

While we're at it, lets also sodomize Bard's Tale.  The SP remake wasn't bad enough?

It wasn't that bad. I know a few youngsters who liked it :)

But if you loved the first series, this new version was so thin... and without any respect to the first 3. It almost seemed like a Bard's Tale: The Parody.

I liked the original Bard Tale games.  Rough games, and definitely not casual. Lol!

 

I loved the M&M series more though.  The one really worth playing (IMO) is MM3, which is free as abandonware. 4+ good too, 1-2 were good for the time.  Might and Magic is best left to meories and replayability of the original games.

I sort of feel the same way with Wizardry, the more I think about it.

 

If someone buys the Sonny & Cher license, can they now start doing Sonny & Cher concerts?  Would fans actually notice their names are really Alfred & Donna?  .... Probably, so will we notice the developers of Wizardry Online are not the same developers from Sir-Tech?  Some might.

-Good Sir, I would like to direct your attention to http://www.indiegogo.com/grimoireforever which is truley Wizardry 7.5. This was made by Cleve Blakemore one of the original Sir tech devs who worked on 7 and 8. Its been in the works for about 200 years and is EPIC beyond belief.

I played the demo/beta/whatever like 15 years ago and its still around on certain...um...sites I cannot mention with Skull Flags and Black beards- needs configured in DosBox... Anyhow, its seriously amazing (the 15 year old version) and he has been working on it this whole time.

Here is a good read where he announces this all http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-kickstarter.75724/ as a "kickstarter"

I think this may be right up your alley- Cleve is a...very interesting individual.

Cheers.

Yeah there was a booth at E3 I stopped at.  Cool game design, great graphic displays.  Their Gamescon demo was more limited, poster displays were not plentiful, shall we say.  I've been signed up to be a beta tester for quite some time .. next month we go! oh yeah.

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by SaintPhilip

Originally posted by Karteli

Originally posted by Po_gg

Originally posted by Karteli

While we're at it, lets also sodomize Bard's Tale.  The SP remake wasn't bad enough?

It wasn't that bad. I know a few youngsters who liked it :)

But if you loved the first series, this new version was so thin... and without any respect to the first 3. It almost seemed like a Bard's Tale: The Parody.

I liked the original Bard Tale games.  Rough games, and definitely not casual. Lol!

 

I loved the M&M series more though.  The one really worth playing (IMO) is MM3, which is free as abandonware. 4+ good too, 1-2 were good for the time.  Might and Magic is best left to meories and replayability of the original games.

I sort of feel the same way with Wizardry, the more I think about it.

 

If someone buys the Sonny & Cher license, can they now start doing Sonny & Cher concerts?  Would fans actually notice their names are really Alfred & Donna?  .... Probably, so will we notice the developers of Wizardry Online are not the same developers from Sir-Tech?  Some might.

-Good Sir, I would like to direct your attention to http://www.indiegogo.com/grimoireforever which is truley Wizardry 7.5. This was made by Cleve Blakemore one of the original Sir tech devs who worked on 7 and 8. Its been in the works for about 200 years and is EPIC beyond belief.

I played the demo/beta/whatever like 15 years ago and its still around on certain...um...sites I cannot mention with Skull Flags and Black beards- needs configured in DosBox... Anyhow, its seriously amazing (the 15 year old version) and he has been working on it this whole time.

Here is a good read where he announces this all http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/grimoire-kickstarter.75724/ as a "kickstarter"

I think this may be right up your alley- Cleve is a...very interesting individual.

Cheers.

Yeah there was a booth at E3 I stopped at.  Cool game design, great graphic displays.  Their Gamescon demo was more limited, poster displays were not plentiful, shall we say.  I've been signed up to be a beta tester for quite some time .. next month we go! oh yeah.

No you are thinking of the "other" Sir tech devs- Brenda and whats his name from Projet Obsidian (I think is the name)- They cancelled that. This has never been at E3 (or anywhere)- Cleve actually has a huge rivalry with those guys and says some damn funny stuff (in the thread I linked) about his adventures with that "team" (stuff he has said even on their kickstarter page which was never  denied)

Cleves game was actuall;y supposed to come out in 1999/2000 I think but he is a perfectionist and kept "adding stuff"/"fixing stuff" etc - never satisfied. Now in 2012 he decided to release and honestly the Demo thats out there was ready to go... Add years worth of content and fixes to that-