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  SBFord

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OP  10/25/12 3:23:48 PM#1

Warner Bros. Entertainment Group has confirmed that Turbine employees have been laid off as part of a 'restructuring move. The company cited fluctuating market conditions as the causative factor in the layoffs.

“As part of the continual review of our business operations and fluctuating market conditions, we have had to make reductions in our Turbine workforce,” said Remi Sklar, spokeswoman for Warner Bros. Entertainment Group, in an e-mail. “The group continues to remain an integral part of Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment.”

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  Xerith

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A monkey poured coffee in my boots

10/25/12 3:34:08 PM#2
Guess RoR didn't sell that well? Have seen next to really nothing about it since it was released. 
  Cecropia

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Poacher killer.

10/25/12 3:35:07 PM#3
Looks like F2P conversions are time buyers and not the sweet saviour that many folks had dreamed. Ah well, it will be intriguing to see how everything unfolds.

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  Elsabolts

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Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

10/25/12 3:36:02 PM#4

I've got a Lifetime sub and quit the game when it went F2P glad to see the Lay-offs.

  Entris38

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Joined: 6/14/12
Posts: 199

10/25/12 3:36:21 PM#5

   As a human being, it's a shame to see such thing and hope these folks find work elsewhere in a hurry. On a gaming perspective, it's a bit dissappointing, being a lifetime subscriber whom has already mostly given up on the game. I thought for sure with having to go FTP that they would up the speed on getting to mordor, maybe get some attention of past players back. They certainly are finding a way to inch their way to Mordor and in my opinion this can only hurt that progress. A pity, I was really looking forward to Mordor and the game just feels dated.  Rohan is the first expansion I haven't bothered with.

 

We should have been at the gates of Mordor long ago.....keep trying to pinch every penny you can out of this Turbine/Warner..just sad

  Blackrayn

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10/25/12 3:37:11 PM#6
Hope this does not end up being bad news for the AC community!!
  Xerith

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A monkey poured coffee in my boots

10/25/12 3:37:29 PM#7
Originally posted by Elsabolts

I've got a Lifetime sub and quit the game when it went F2P glad to see the Lay-offs.

Because people losing their jobs is cool right?

  Elsabolts

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Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

10/25/12 3:39:51 PM#8
Originally posted by Xerith
Originally posted by Elsabolts

I've got a Lifetime sub and quit the game when it went F2P glad to see the Lay-offs.

Because people losing their jobs is cool right?

Bad Management Decisons lead to folks getting laid off blame them.

  User Deleted
10/25/12 3:43:32 PM#9
Originally posted by Blackrayn
Hope this does not end up being bad news for the AC community!!

AC still has a community? Huh.

  JeroKane

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Joined: 2/21/06
Posts: 5185

10/25/12 3:43:55 PM#10

/sigh  It is always very sad to see people losing their jobs!  But they had it coming.

This is what you get when you keep delivering less and less and ask more and more from your customers.

LOTRO:

Rise of Isengard expansion was a farce, nothing but a questpack but charging full expansion price for it. Instance cluster was terrible and not released until december, more than 2 months after the expac release.

Riders of Rohan expansion even more a farce. Just a questpack but charging even more than last year with RoI !  No news yet about Instance Cluster nor what it will bring nor when it will be released.

The biggest joke, was that they first tried to charge EXTRA for the upcoming instance cluster! It took a whole outrage on both LOTRO forums and public forums, before Turbine decided to include the Instance cluster within the expac again and adding TP to the bundles like they did last year with RoI ! /Facepalm

They lost a lot of fans with that stunt alone already! And directly affected the poor sales of this expansion and hence the lay offs!

Mounted combat is hit or miss with most people!  Not to mention the whole lootbox crap with keys from Warbands!

People say a lot about Cryptic and their lootbox lottery in STO!  LOTRO is now full of it as well!

 

Then lets move on to the LOTRO Store, which was suppose to be convenience items that has slowly via stealth additions turned into a FULL Pay 2 Win Store! 

First came the stackable health/mana pots!  Then came all the crap with Monster Play stuff!  Then came the relics and scrolls!

And now the most disgusting addition is that people can buy scrolls to insta max out ENTIRE crafting tiers! Yes you read it right, you can now just throw money at Turbine and insta max out your crafting profession!

So what is next?  Insta leveling scrolls? I wouldn't be suprised.

LOTRO used to be a very good game, but the more and longer Turbine has been under Warner Bros reign, the more nickle and diming the game has become.

I was part of a huge guild with serious die hard Tolkien fans that have been around since launch, but ever since the F2P and the move to more and more Pay 2 Win with the Store.... more and more people in my kinship got fed up with Turbine and quit. Only a tiny fraction of the people remain.

Turbine has become a terrible and greedy company, making both EA and Cryptic look like Saints.

 

  Elsabolts

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Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

10/25/12 3:45:45 PM#11
Originally posted by JeroKane

/sigh  It is always very sad to see people losing their jobs!  But they had it coming.

This is what you get when you keep delivering less and less and ask more and more from your customers.

LOTRO:

Rise of Isengard expansion was a farce, nothing but a questpack but charging full expansion price for it. Instance cluster was terrible and not released until december, more than 2 months after the expac release.

Riders of Rohan expansion even more a farce. Just a questpack but charging even more than last year with RoI !  No news yet about Instance Cluster nor what it will bring nor when it will be released.

The biggest joke, was that they first tried to charge EXTRA for the upcoming instance cluster! It took a whole outrage on both LOTRO forums and public forums, before Turbine decided to include the Instance cluster within the expac again and adding TP to the bundles like they did last year with RoI ! /Facepalm

They lost a lot of fans with that stunt alone already! And directly affected the poor sales of this expansion and hence the lay offs!

Mounted combat is hit or miss with most people!  Not to mention the whole lootbox crap with keys from Warbands!

People say a lot about Cryptic and their lootbox lottery in STO!  LOTRO is now full of it as well!

 

Then lets move on to the LOTRO Store, which was suppose to be convenience items that has slowly via stealth additions turned into a FULL Pay 2 Win Store! 

First came the stackable health/mana pots!  Then came all the crap with Monster Play stuff!  Then came the relics and scrolls!

And now the most disgusting addition is that people can buy scrolls to insta max out ENTIRE crafting tiers! Yes you read it right, you can now just throw money at Turbine and insta max out your crafting profession!

So what is next?  Insta leveling scrolls? I wouldn't be suprised.

LOTRO used to be a very good game, but the more and longer Turbine has been under Warner Bros reign, the more nickle and diming the game has become.

I was part of a huge guild with serious die hard Tolkien fans that have been around since launch, but ever since the F2P and the move to more and more Pay 2 Win with the Store.... more and more people in my kinship got fed up with Turbine and quit. Only a tiny fraction of the people remain.

Turbine has become a terrible and greedy company, making both EA and Cryptic look like Saints.

 

Funcom and CCP will not be far behind.

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5799

10/25/12 3:49:11 PM#12

I'm not surprised.  *shrug*

They've treated their customers poorly.  They have shady marketing tactics.  They've botched a most beloved fantasy IP that gave them an advantage most other dev/publishers would kill for.  They've made the bed they're lieing in.

edit: JeroKane pretty much covered the specifics and my sentiment.

You know I'm sad that they have failed.  I really do miss my characters there and the friends I had, but Turbine was just so hideous.

Curse you AquaScum!

  dreamsofwar

Novice Member

Joined: 4/04/09
Posts: 471

10/25/12 3:49:31 PM#13
This is actually a real shame for me as I thought LOTRO was doing well. Maybe these layoffs don't mean doom and gloom for the company and the game and if they do, nothing lasts forever.
  Scorchien

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Joined: 5/12/06
Posts: 1093

10/25/12 4:06:13 PM#14

  This may be more of a restructuring and taking Turbine in a new direction , as they made some key hires just days previous to lead there development.

 

http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/109839-turbine-expands-leadership-team-ken-rolston-joins-as-director-of-design.html

  FrodoFragins

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Joined: 4/29/10
Posts: 2771

10/25/12 4:10:48 PM#15

They stopped bragging about their F2P numbers a long time ago.

 

It's sad that people are losing their jobs, but LOTRO has been going down this path for a long time.  I think Turbine, and now WB, totally mismanage this product.  But WB isn't one for taking risks so it's to be expected.

 

I still see them releasing quest packs every year and most liklely abandoning instance clusters altogether.  They might even put out some more skirmishes.

 

The problem is that they've been focused on milking the property rather than giving the players what they want.  This means we likely will never catch a glimpse of Mordor. 

 

This would have been a better release plan:

 

1) Vanilla - ignore Angmar/Forochel.  Include Moria and Lothlorien and parts of mirkwood.  Also let people start in Lothlorien, Edoras or Minas tirith and then get sent to the west of the Misty Mountains

 

2) Expansion #1 - released 2 years after vanilla - Rohan/Isengard

 

3) Expansion #2 - Released 4 years after vanilla - Gondor and Gates of mordor

 

4) Expansion #3 - Released 6 years after vanilla - Mordor expansion

 

Turbine has some horrible lead designers and art directors (everything indoors is a muddy brown/black/gray).  I bet they kept their jobs though.

  xalvi

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/10
Posts: 343

10/25/12 4:16:04 PM#16
Originally posted by FrodoFragins

They stopped bragging about their F2P numbers a long time ago.

 

It's sad that people are losing their jobs, but LOTRO has been going down this path for a long time.  I think Turbine, and now WB, totally mismanage this product.  But WB isn't one for taking risks so it's to be expected.

 

I'm just extremely sad WB owns the right for the LOTR title mmo, unless they sell it. Now we will never see a well rounded LOTR mmo,shame.

 

What goes around comes around....turbine, peace and cha cha.

  User Deleted
10/25/12 4:18:38 PM#17
Originally posted by Xerith
Originally posted by Elsabolts

I've got a Lifetime sub and quit the game when it went F2P glad to see the Lay-offs.

Because people losing their jobs is cool right?

People lose their jobs because they make poor descisions.

  User Deleted
10/25/12 4:20:24 PM#18
Also, I really hope Sapience was one of the employees to get canned.
  FrodoFragins

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Posts: 2771

10/25/12 4:23:41 PM#19
Originally posted by asmkm22
Also, I really hope Sapience was one of the employees to get canned.

Can't agree with this more.  He's really not a people person at all.  He uses the Derek Smart interpersonal skill system

  starwarsnut

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10/25/12 4:24:42 PM#20
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Xerith
Originally posted by Elsabolts

I've got a Lifetime sub and quit the game when it went F2P glad to see the Lay-offs.

Because people losing their jobs is cool right?

People lose their jobs because they make poor descisions.

yeah like accusing my friend of buying 3000$ worth of gold lol. Im really glad about this 5 years to late but maybe something good will happen now doubt it but least the toilet will be flushed for once

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