I like the idea of this, but I doubt its execution. Especially since the majority of the modern MMO playerbase prefers to solo. I fear that once I'm in the level range to do a Public Dungeon, that there won't be anyone running it at the time. This may not be a problem when the game first releases and IF you keep up with the Jones's in leveling, but once the game passes release and the bulk of people are past where a casual player may be in levels, these Public Dungeons may be dead, especially if the world is large and the population spread out. 

Since I'm a completionist, and want to do said content at the level where it's still challenging, this would be a game breaker for me. Guess I'll have to wait and see.

Originally posted by Daddydazzle
after reading this, the things i'm worried about is how it will scales (as stated), and if there are more then one group, can we go in with it partially completed? i may not be understanding it correctly, but multiple groups would allow for mobs being dead before we even get to them?

I don't know for sure but it might be like the old Everquest system. In kunark dungeons for example, you would fight though to a boss area then either camp that boss or move to another boss. Bosses would respawn periodically and often had a placeholder mob that you had to kill repeatedly. So if that is the model, you zone in with your party and ask in chat what is camped before you head that way. This was done because known bosses dropped particular items. It's certainly not how things happen these days but it did work after a fashion. 

Didnt DAOC have the same?

This is DAOC 2 in a ES mask.   Not saying that is a bad thing tho.   DAOC was pretty good in its day and ES has a lot of fans

I look forward to most big titles and this is no exception. In addition I am a primarily solo player (lone hero - horrible odds etc) so the public dungeons/PvE areas are of interest. After playing GW2 however, with the solo play and the no need for groups, I am beginning to rethink. The echoing of silence in zones (entire zones) for hours on end (usually the starter zones chat somewhat) makes me wonder about enjoyability of more of these PUnonG type models.

Time will tell. As a whole we're becoming a global community at the expense of the nuclear community/family. Gaming seems to be following that trend at a rapid rate.

Originally posted by chriswsm

Didnt DAOC have the same?

This is DAOC 2 in a ES mask.   Not saying that is a bad thing tho.   DAOC was pretty good in its day and ES has a lot of fans

 

And this is being designed by some of the minds that created DAoC.

I'll be interested to see gameplay footage and get some more detail on the advancement system, but TESO looks like it has potential.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by health001
u know company's that like to post pics of fluffy screen shots minus the actual in game vid with the UI are 90% fail games that just like to ramp the hpye up for a major let down......I really hope i am wrong on this game,but more then likely i wont be ;/

Name me any company that releases screenshots of ther UI or combat when its in pre-Alpha stages?  Because there arent any, quit making crap up to fit a false narrative.  It reeks of ignorance.

Above & beyond technologies would be one, for the game (The Repopulation). They show UI / combat in both screenshots, and videos. as seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRfQvwAuesQ imo there is some truth to what health001 is saying.

Originally posted by mmoDAD

To be honest, I get sick of these types of screenshots.

When I was a noobish consumer, I used to imagine (after a screenshot like this), "Exploration and adventure". After experiencing all these bore-fests, all I now see is, "You can't climb this rock, you can't go past this mountain range, you can't go more than 100 yards from the main path, the cool tower has one NPC in the middle that gives out the same 'fetch my lost necklace quest' and will explain to me and 100,000,000 other n00bs how I'm the chosen one..."

 

Well said...

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by Galadourn

Originally posted by Daddydazzle

Originally posted by Galadourn

so TESO will have zoning like... AoC (iirc)? meaning multiple copies of the same location with different players in it, despite they all are on the same server?

well, that's the nail in the coffin for me. And for a while i got really happy they had decided to make combat quasi-realtime...

an entire server pop inside an instanced dungeon would be a bit silly.

"who's hand is on my ass?!?"

I'm not talking about the PDs, but about the world; will it be instanced like AoC or will there only be one "instance" for the players? That's crucial imho.

I don't really mind about the public dungeons being "population capped" but it does sort of negate the whoe point of "public" to make them multi-instanced...Vanguard, for example, does not split dungeons into multiple instance regardless of the number of people in it.

 

Vanguard dungeons are true open world non instanced dungeons where any amout of players can enter and you will all be in the same area. These are glorified instances but they are being called public dungeons. EQ had dungeons that you zoned into but were still open dungeons these are not the same. Anyway ill still try the game but PD are not true open world dungeons which is a pity.

Actually I think their method of realising an open dungeon feel whilst making griefing less likely is a happy compromise. Truly open dungeons are a camping/grief-fest and populated by the kind of people I would happily defenestrate from the 20th floor.

I have been playing MMOs for a long time and never seen an open dungeon which didn't become a griefers version of 'Second Life'.