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  Kilsin

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10/24/12 11:23:21 PM#41
Originally posted by Abdiell

This is constructive criticism, please take it at face value. I would change the name if I were you. I saw this thread on the front page all day today, and did not click on it because when I saw Greed Monger, I immediatly thought tycoon style game. After seeing the thread a dozen times, I finally clicked.

 

I'm glad I did take a look because it looks awesome, and I applaud your effort.

 

People judge books by their cover. That is realty, and that is why so much money goes into branding. I stronly recommend you reconsider how your present your brand to the world.

I have to agree with this, the name is pretty bad and made me skip past it several times too until there was nothing else to read at 2am...

I am not liking the rich get richer and pay to win motto's being thrown around here...apart from that the game looks pretty good and has a lot of potential but I won't be supporting it if it's pay to win with real cash to buy land, that just takes the whole fun from gaming out of it.

  Loktofeit

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10/24/12 11:25:40 PM#42
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by Biskop
So.. The whole map will eventually be owned by rich whales who will rule supreme and who people with normal funds won't be able to touch?

Just like the real world, then. I must say you've picked a fitting name for thos game..

Otherwise it sounds pretty interesting.

 

This is a valid point... will there be limits to amount of land per account? I would guess not considering how easy it is to make alt accounts in a F2P game?

I never played it... is this model similar to Entropy Online?

Otherwise, I actually love the idea of a crafting focused MMO like this. I would prefer land to be achieved through in game play though, as opposed to real life cash, but that's just me.

I am not a fan at all of the name either, but again that's just personal taste.

I'm interested in the answer to that one.

What are the differences between Greed Monger and Entropia Universe?

 

 

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  Mogus

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OP  10/24/12 11:27:34 PM#43

How does Utopian Settlers sound?

I only ask because that's what we were going to name the game.

Knowing what I know about the game, I feel Greed Monger is better suited, but I have heard several times how the name strikes people in a negative way.

 

www.greedmonger.com
Did you like Ultima Online? Then you'll LOVE Greed Monger!

  Loktofeit

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10/24/12 11:27:44 PM#44
Originally posted by Kilsin
Originally posted by Abdiell

This is constructive criticism, please take it at face value. I would change the name if I were you. I saw this thread on the front page all day today, and did not click on it because when I saw Greed Monger, I immediatly thought tycoon style game. After seeing the thread a dozen times, I finally clicked.

 

I'm glad I did take a look because it looks awesome, and I applaud your effort.

 

People judge books by their cover. That is realty, and that is why so much money goes into branding. I stronly recommend you reconsider how your present your brand to the world.

I have to agree with this, the name is pretty bad and made me skip past it several times too until there was nothing else to read at 2am...

I am not liking the rich get richer and pay to win motto's being thrown around here...apart from that the game looks pretty good and has a lot of potential but I won't be supporting it if it's pay to win with real cash to buy land, that just takes the whole fun from gaming out of it.

In agreement here, as well. Random latenight browsing is the only thing that got me to click this as at first glance I had originally ignored it as probably being some reskinned browser game.

 

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

  Mogus

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Joined: 5/21/04
Posts: 176

 
OP  10/24/12 11:29:30 PM#45

Entropia Universe is a HUGE money pit. I've played it and still have an account with 1,000 PED left on it.

The big difference is, Greed Monger isn't a RCE (Real Cash Economy) game that you have to constantly feed cash into it in hopes of getting something of value.

The only real cash transactions that should be taking place are Land Purchases and Estate Sales.

www.greedmonger.com
Did you like Ultima Online? Then you'll LOVE Greed Monger!

  Abdiell

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Joined: 2/28/08
Posts: 102

10/24/12 11:57:59 PM#46

Utopian Settlers is better, but still not attention grabbing.

 

Since the game is a land grab, how about something like "Manifest Destiny" or "Terra Firma."

 

Just a thought.

  Myrdynn

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Joined: 3/25/07
Posts: 1452

10/25/12 12:10:41 AM#47

nice Mogus, I remember your original thread, I actually posted, I wasnt a fan if there wasnt a pve aspect, but it seems like you have quite a bit of pve.

This sounds really cool, I may just KS this to try and get a nice bunch of parcels with the soul intention of selling down the road.

when it comes to KS, take a little friendly advice, recently MMOrpgs, that have been KS'd have been looking for 700k, 1.3mil etc, set your goals low, so you get something to help boost you along

I havent bothered to KS COS or OOM cause I really dont see how either of those even come close to their no's

  DSWBeef

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10/25/12 4:35:43 AM#48
Hmmm a better name then Greed Monger........ If you have a name for the world we are on you could call it SETTLERS OF (insert name here). Just a thought. Ill think of more.

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  Icewhite

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10/25/12 5:04:55 AM#49
Promoters shore do talk purty.

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  Vesavius

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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

10/25/12 5:20:30 AM#50
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Vesavius
Originally posted by Biskop
So.. The whole map will eventually be owned by rich whales who will rule supreme and who people with normal funds won't be able to touch?

Just like the real world, then. I must say you've picked a fitting name for thos game..

Otherwise it sounds pretty interesting.

 

This is a valid point... will there be limits to amount of land per account? I would guess not considering how easy it is to make alt accounts in a F2P game?

I never played it... is this model similar to Entropy Online?

Otherwise, I actually love the idea of a crafting focused MMO like this. I would prefer land to be achieved through in game play though, as opposed to real life cash, but that's just me.

I am not a fan at all of the name either, but again that's just personal taste.

I'm interested in the answer to that one.

What are the differences between Greed Monger and Entropia Universe?

 

Thanks for making the connection and the correction there Lok. It's a title I am not really familiar with :)

  Vesavius

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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

10/25/12 5:27:46 AM#51
Originally posted by Mogus

How does Utopian Settlers sound?

I only ask because that's what we were going to name the game.

Knowing what I know about the game, I feel Greed Monger is better suited, but I have heard several times how the name strikes people in a negative way.

 

It's hard to come up with something nice that isn't cheesy... Ascendance Online?

 

  Caldrin

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Posts: 4305

10/25/12 5:44:11 AM#52

this does sonud interesting..

as others have mentioned if land = power and you can buy land with real money then its clearly pay to win..

 

Still I will keep an eye on this one and see how your development comes along..

 

Good luck :)

 

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  Mogus

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OP  10/25/12 10:47:09 AM#53

Land Ownership is just a part of the overall game experience. Owning land and being inactive doesn't help you at all. A player with no land that works hard can easily achieve more than someone who owns 4 parcels of land and doest little.

Kickstarter campaign will be launching this week. Please visit our forums for lots of your questions that are being answered over there.

Thanks so much for your support here.

 

www.greedmonger.com
Did you like Ultima Online? Then you'll LOVE Greed Monger!

  JamesP

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Posts: 315

10/26/12 11:45:15 AM#54

Hello, I'm James Proctor! I'm one of the Programmers for Greed Monger.

 

I've seen some people upset about the fact that we are charging for the Ownership of Land. That right there is THE ONLY thing we are charging for. We don't have some $15 per month subscription fee, No Cash shop, No other way to keep money flowing in to keep the Servers online for you guys. Running a MMO isn't cheap between Hardware costs, Bandwidth costs, and other costs that creep up on us from time to time.

Some games such as SecondLife charge a whole lot more then $20 for their land ownership and add a maintance fee on top of that per month. Plus with SecondLife it's kind of hard to really do anything at all with out owning some land. In Greed Monger you will still be able to get plenty of enjoyment out of the game with out ever owning any land.

 

Well that's enough from me for now! I really can't wait until our Kick Starter Campaign gets going and we can show you guys what we have been working on!

Lead Programmer
Greed Monger
http://www.GreedMonger.com

  Kalafax

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10/26/12 12:14:18 PM#55
Looks very promising, I will definitly be watching it

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  Mogus

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Posts: 176

 
OP  10/26/12 1:35:27 PM#56

Thank you Dalgor!

We really appreciate the support.

www.greedmonger.com
Did you like Ultima Online? Then you'll LOVE Greed Monger!

  Vesavius

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Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this.

10/26/12 8:32:26 PM#57
Originally posted by JamesP

Hello, I'm James Proctor! I'm one of the Programmers for Greed Monger.

 

I've seen some people upset about the fact that we are charging for the Ownership of Land. That right there is THE ONLY thing we are charging for. We don't have some $15 per month subscription fee, No Cash shop, No other way to keep money flowing in to keep the Servers online for you guys. Running a MMO isn't cheap between Hardware costs, Bandwidth costs, and other costs that creep up on us from time to time.

Some games such as SecondLife charge a whole lot more then $20 for their land ownership and add a maintance fee on top of that per month. Plus with SecondLife it's kind of hard to really do anything at all with out owning some land. In Greed Monger you will still be able to get plenty of enjoyment out of the game with out ever owning any land.

 

Well that's enough from me for now! I really can't wait until our Kick Starter Campaign gets going and we can show you guys what we have been working on!

 

I am not sure people here are 'upset'..? I think they are just asking reasonable questions and giving valid thoughts on it. I don't sense much emotion here at all in tbh. I think folks are just questioning how your model would affect them in the long run if they couldn't afford to spend the money on land to stay competitive. I think that's reasonable. I don't think anyone is challenging your right to make an income :)

I, like others here, wish you guys luck. The more variety in the MMORPG space the better.

  Venger

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10/26/12 9:35:19 PM#58
Very interesting idea.
  Deriums

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10/26/12 10:33:55 PM#59
Originally posted by JamesP

Hello, I'm James Proctor! I'm one of the Programmers for Greed Monger.

 

I've seen some people upset about the fact that we are charging for the Ownership of Land. That right there is THE ONLY thing we are charging for. We don't have some $15 per month subscription fee, No Cash shop, No other way to keep money flowing in to keep the Servers online for you guys. Running a MMO isn't cheap between Hardware costs, Bandwidth costs, and other costs that creep up on us from time to time.

Some games such as SecondLife charge a whole lot more then $20 for their land ownership and add a maintance fee on top of that per month. Plus with SecondLife it's kind of hard to really do anything at all with out owning some land. In Greed Monger you will still be able to get plenty of enjoyment out of the game with out ever owning any land.

 

Well that's enough from me for now! I really can't wait until our Kick Starter Campaign gets going and we can show you guys what we have been working on!

Is there an upkeep cost? If not what would happen after a few years when the surge of players stop and your income drops a lot?

  blognorg

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10/26/12 10:54:02 PM#60

This game sounds very cool so far. I will definitely be tossing some money towards it when it launches on Kickstarter.

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