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  Entinerint

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Joined: 5/06/12
Posts: 752

10/23/12 11:31:11 AM#21
Originally posted by ste2000
Originally posted by tazarconan

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/6819/The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-The-Comprehensive-Preview.html

For the last 2-4 months i ve read several posts from various ppl here in mmorpg,claiming things about how TESO was to be a wow clone,with the usual auto-attack combat system wow,eq etc etc has, but guess what...After reading the preview of that alpha tester here in the site the game uses the typical oblivion-skyrim, style combat system .Aim and attack,block dodge manually,even spells need a typical aim.And by reading the whole thread this game looks like a deep mmorpg ,even in terms of character progression.Exploration adn adventuring remains in high standards,as most ppl want also.

So im wondering.. Why all those ignorant little pests were frieking lying about with their posts without knowing jacksheet missinforming,bashing a game they didnt have a clue what it is about in the 1st place.

Its too early too speak about it,but from what it looks from the preview i think i found the next mmorpg i ll be playing for the next 5-6 years when it comes.

That was 6 month ago, when people complained about the Combat.

Guess what, because of that, during these 6 months Zenimax improved it (but not good enough yet).

Result !

And it is not over yet, there is still a lot of room from improvement, so get used to the QQ cause we haven't done yet.

It shows that a good TES MMO is possible, we just have to make them understand what is needed and desired.  We need to be vocal, and proud of our opinions.  Not all of them will make it, sure, but hopefully it will get close enough. 

Criticize the hell out of this game, the IP is too precious to let fade into a shitty MMO.

  Fearum

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Joined: 1/15/11
Posts: 1092

10/23/12 11:48:28 AM#22
People are always gonna cry about something. This game is no different. I can't wait for it myself, the 3 server pvp in gw2 is not really that great and hope TESO can put something better together with the 3 factions. But the combat sounds great so far, don't listen to trolls. They are like cancer on the internet. 
  MindTrigger

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Joined: 12/19/07
Posts: 2628

10/23/12 11:55:43 AM#23
Until I see evidence that they are planning more hybrid features, this still just looks like a fly-by-night themepark that people will be bored with inside of 30 days.  I hope I'm wrong.

A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.

  Zefire

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Joined: 9/21/10
Posts: 700

10/23/12 11:57:42 AM#24
Originally posted by tazarconan

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/6819/The-Elder-Scrolls-Online-The-Comprehensive-Preview.html

For the last 2-4 months i ve read several posts from various ppl here in mmorpg,claiming things about how TESO was to be a wow clone,with the usual auto-attack combat system wow,eq etc etc has, but guess what...After reading the preview of that alpha tester here in the site the game uses the typical oblivion-skyrim, style combat system .Aim and attack,block dodge manually,even spells need a typical aim.And by reading the whole thread this game looks like a deep mmorpg ,even in terms of character progression.Exploration adn adventuring remains in high standards,as most ppl want also.

So im wondering.. Why all those ignorant little pests were frieking lying about with their posts without knowing jacksheet missinforming,bashing a game they didnt have a clue what it is about in the 1st place.

Its too early too speak about it,but from what it looks from the preview i think i found the next mmorpg i ll be playing for the next 5-6 years when it comes.

So before u play the game you come to tell us that you have found the mmorpg that you will be playing for 5-6 years.[mod edit]

There were a lot of people just like you saying such things only to realise after one month of release that the game is crap.

What im trying to say is dont get hyped by mmorpgs and by games in general.

Play them for a month and then decide if the ride was worth it.

Getting hyped for a game that has not released yet are just feelings of an unexperienced player and blind hopes for future.

Dont bet on future nor on past today is what matters.

  himods

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Joined: 10/23/12
Posts: 61

10/23/12 11:58:45 AM#25
If we all had behaved like drooling fans, none of these changes would've been made. Blind fanboism only benefits the lazy game developers. This game is still far away from deserving to be called a TES game, and while I doubt it will ever be anything even half-decent, at least the combat has now improved. And LOL at the guy suggesting one should only read the official previews, or posts made by "blues", SWTOR preview/review proved them to be nothing more than part of marketing campaigns.
  Brenelael

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Joined: 10/19/06
Posts: 3985

Pointing out the Obvious to the Oblivious since 2006

10/23/12 12:14:33 PM#26

The more you hype yourself up for this or any game before release the harder you're gonna fall when you finally get to play it. Also every post on this forum should be taken with a grain of salt as they are just someone's opinion on any given topic. Even when facts are given they will be presented in a way that supports the poster's opinion. If you remember these simple guidelines this site can be most enjoyable... when you forget these guidelines this site can be a frustrating cesspool.

 

As for TESO my own opinion is it still is far from being TES. Without the core combat elements and the open sandbox nature of the TES series of games this game is doomed as the core TES fans will not except anything less. This game may however be a hit with MMO fans that don't usually care for the TES type game play but in my honest opinion that will not be enough to save this game if they keep heading down this path. We shall have to wait and see.

 

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  Amana

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Joined: 1/03/11
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10/23/12 12:24:00 PM#27

Changed the thread title to be less inflammatory but still spark discussion. Carry on. 

 

 

But if yo wanto discuss the items in the preview, please do so in the original preview thread. Thanks.

To give feedback on moderation, contact community@mmorpg.com

  GrumpyMel2

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Joined: 3/24/09
Posts: 1828

10/24/12 3:35:27 PM#28
Originally posted by Galadourn
I blame it on the official news releases by ZOS, which pointed to a more WoW-like experience. Then, after the outcry before and during the E3 presentation, they went silent and reworked on all those things people were whining about. How successful this tweaking will be remains to be seen, or if they've tried to use a band-aid to cure a deep wound.

Pretty much this. Can't blame folks for reacting to what the Dev's ACTUALY SAID thier design intents were, at the time they said them.

Just look at this quote from the reviewer from todays article....

"....the build we played is midway between the old tab-target system and the new free-form targeting..."

Meaning they started out with a different design which was much closer to the traditional WoW/TOR design and much further away from the traditional TES design and THEN decided to change it.

Maybe they looked at what happaned to TOR and decided they didn't want to follow along that path?  Maybe they took fan backlash to heart?

Anyway points awarded for actualy being responsive to feedback in thier design. Points deducted for not thinking through the initial design very well in the first place.

Ultimately I'm reserving judgment until just before release and this thing gets into the hands of actual players. That's where the rubber meets the road and we see how it's really shaped up. I'm not enthused by some of the design decisions they've made but it is sounding better then it was before. Right now TESO has a big question mark on it for me...but at least it's gone from a definite "no buy" to a let's see for me. YMMV.

  GrumpyMel2

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Joined: 3/24/09
Posts: 1828

10/24/12 3:40:57 PM#29
Originally posted by MindTrigger
Until I see evidence that they are planning more hybrid features, this still just looks like a fly-by-night themepark that people will be bored with inside of 30 days.  I hope I'm wrong.

My guess right now is that you are probably right. The real difference right now is this game, unlike TOR, may be actualy be FUN enough to be worthwhile me picking up to play for 30 days before dropping sub. YMMV.

  Nitth

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Joined: 7/29/10
Posts: 3451

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10/24/12 3:42:35 PM#30


Originally posted by salenger

Originally posted by Entinerint DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE! I personally checked with several of the reviewers: combat is NOT real-time.  It is much akin to GW2, not quite like TERA (which is barely real-time).  There is soft-targetting.  You do NOT aim attacks.  You CANNOT swing your weapons freely.  You do NOT aim spells, swings or bows.  You DO have to be facing your target, and put your cursor over the target, but then, voila, auto-attack begins as long as you're in range. It is a hybrid system, which is better than nothing, but they need to take it further, all the way: Mortal, Darkfall, TES-style before it is fully there. They did a good thing by listening to the complaints and improving things. Note that anyone who was there AND was also at the E3 presentation says a LOT has changed.  They are also no longer saying this stuff is impossible.  So there's hope that they may get to proper real-time direct-action combat system, but they may now just rest on their laurels on this one.
The combat in this game failed the moment they decided to use the Hero engine.

omfg. Why exactly?


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  Istavaan

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Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 1398

10/24/12 3:59:40 PM#31
Looking forward to this game, i can imagine there will be lots of haters from now until release.
  Trudge34

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Joined: 8/08/12
Posts: 389

10/24/12 7:48:58 PM#32
Originally posted by Istavaan
Looking forward to this game, i can imagine there will be lots of haters from now until release.

Well if they release a game with The Elder Scrolls title and strip it of most of the core elements that Elder Scrolls fans love, then it's probably pretty deserving.

I'm in a "wait and see" mode for this game, although I'm not expecting a whole lot. Hopefully that'll work in my favor because I love TES...

Played: EQ1 (10 Years), Guild Wars, Rift, TERA
Tried: EQ2, Vanguard, Lord of the Rings Online, Dungeons and Dragons Online, Runes of Magic and countless others...
Currently Playing: GW2

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