Originally posted by kastrix
The game engine is from like 2001,  they can only do that much in terms off animation and "smoothness", then again you can always look at wows engine.

The original Darkfall engine is from 2003, this one I believe is a totally overhauled, if not brand new engine. But expecting A team of 30 devs with a budget of a couple million to match WoW's animations that cost upwards of 1,000,000 million, with hundreds of devs, you HAVE to be joking.

Originally posted by lorddarka
gonna flop if this is all they r offering.  if they built the game they said they were going  to theyd of never had money problems in the first place. And the reason they r giving unholy wars away is cause they current player base is less than 500 people and this is just a really small expansion that no ones going to pay for.

All the trolls are skuttling into the light it seems. They did built they game they were going to. Who said they had money problems? Way WAAAAY more than 500 people bought Darkfall 1. And if Unholy Wars is a small expansion, than Burning Crusade and Lich King put together were quick bug fixes.

Originally posted by parrotpholk
Not to shabby but shouldnt a stomp animation be o I dont know a stomp?  Nice footage though all in all.

Agreed!

Looked like EQ1...

Originally posted by Drevar
I'm not at all a fan of DF at all, but I really have to laugh at people who compare the graphics to "the 90's".  It's pretty obvious they never played a 3D game in the 90's or have a very poor memory of what it was actually like.

You are right ofc, but you see, some people who are not "fans" don't just ignore games they have no interest in. Instead they feel they have to spout the most OTT negative comments they can think of whenever they happen to notice threads about said game.

Originally posted by DavisFlight

Originally posted by BadSpock

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Talented? Absolutely, no other game has pulled off an engine capable of what Darkfall 1 is. thousands of people fighting in the same place in real time with FPS combat? No zones, instances, or loading lines? 

Respectable? They turned down dozens of publishers for 2 years because they refused to turn Darkfall into a WoW clone, even when it meant borrowing more money to stay afloat. They're also giving Unholy Wars for free to everyone who bought Darkfall 1. Very respectable. 

Honest? Ever feature they ever said would be in the last 3 expansions was in those expansions. Dishonesty implies deliberate lies. Missing ETAs is hardly dishonest. Unless you want to start yelling at Valve and Blizzard and Nintendo for how often they miss ETAs. 

DF1 engine didn't pull it off. The game engine fell to its knees when even 200 people in one area, it was a slide show being battles as it was CPU bound and poorly optimized.  1000 people fighting just didn't happen often because of the poor performance for everybody fighting in a slide show with a select few with very high end systems overclocked who had it just about playable during a big city battles.

Originally posted by Galadourn
the animations are actually top-notch. They have set up a motion-capture studio to record all the animations for players and NPCs. So if you don't like the animation of the guy running with the 2h sword, I guess you can blame it on the person that acted out that particular animation.

I find that hard to believe.  Compared to the orginal yeah its an upgrade but thats not saying much.

Originally posted by IAmMMO

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DF1 engine didn't pull it off. The game engine fell to its knees when even 200 people in one area, it was a slide show being battles as it was CPU bound and poorly optimized.  1000 people fighting just didn't happen often because of the poor performance for everybody fighting in a slide show with a select few with very high end systems overclocked who had it just about playable during a big city battles.

Well, I can't really think of a game that pulled such a thing of in a seamless engine. Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen such a thing pulled of in a zoned engine either. Even the zone based engines use tricks like hiding everyone but names and other tricks to try and keep the load low.

I wonder if Archeage managed to pull it through.

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by Galadourn
the animations are actually top-notch. They have set up a motion-capture studio to record all the animations for players and NPCs. So if you don't like the animation of the guy running with the 2h sword, I guess you can blame it on the person that acted out that particular animation.

I find that hard to believe.  Compared to the orginal yeah its an upgrade but thats not saying much.

they did set up a motion-capture studio, back in 2009. What's hard to believe about that?

Originally posted by Galadourn

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by Galadourn
the animations are actually top-notch. They have set up a motion-capture studio to record all the animations for players and NPCs. So if you don't like the animation of the guy running with the 2h sword, I guess you can blame it on the person that acted out that particular animation.

I find that hard to believe.  Compared to the orginal yeah its an upgrade but thats not saying much.

they did set up a motion-capture studio, back in 2009. What's hard to believe about that?

That's not hard to believe.

However, their work so far sucks (in my opinion based on the original post video). Having a "motion-capture studio" and utilizing it correctly are, obviously, two different things.

well, the animation of that man running with the 2h weapon is as realistic as it gets in terms of motion. You may argue that it doesn't look pretty, but if you or me try to run around in a similar fashion with a 2h weapon unsheathed you'd see that our motion would look the same.

Darkfall has had my attention since the beginning... and since Adventurine is doing the rather extraordinary gesture of letting former players who bought Darkfall 1 play without buying a new game, I'm certainly going to give it a try.

If it's a grind-heavy nightmare like the last one, it'll amuse me for 2 weeks and then I'll step out of the way of serious gamers, like the last one.