Peering back through to release of Darkfall I remember the utter disaster that it was... i..e. the lack of Beta testing (bugs galore) through to the disaster of ordering the game (allowing waves of people in becuase the ordering system was overloaded, downloading and logging in systems were broken and they did not anticipate the numbers). 

My main concern now is that here we are several weeks out from release with supposedly a brand new game with a lot of new feature that has not been properly Beta tested, stress tested etc.

Seems they have not learnt from the original release .. or have they? 

My prediction is the release will be rough and many of the new systems bugged or not implemented properly through lack of testing.

It is beyond belief that they are going down the same path.

0. People that couldnt BUY the game. There's alot of those too.. AV couldnt handle all the requests and "If I have to put so much effort just to buy the game, why should I bother?"

Originally posted by Hotjazz

Originally posted by asdar

1. People who hated the UI and didn't even give the game a few days chance. I know a lot of these.
2. People who didn't like a world that didn't guide you.
3. People who didn't like the FFA PvP.

4. The grind to become pvp viable.

If DF1 was released as it is NOW it would have been a great success.. too bad that when it got really good with reduced grind and tweaks for the spells, armor etc the population was already too low.. And ppl dont want to start playing a MMO long after the release so the population never raised again.. :(

I kind of get where those players are coming from. They really want this kind of MMO. Even though it is not my cup of tea, I do think that this kind of MMO, if executed well, could have certainly enough players to be succesful. But I doubt too if it will come from this company. I agree with the OP on this, they don't seem to learn. And the players that really crave for this kind of MMO becomes somehow blinded and are setting themselves up for disappointment. I would be very wary anyway.

When I see Aventurine promising and claiming things, I have to think back about Dark & Light devs.

Originally posted by reacaer

If DF1 was released as it is NOW it would have been a great success.. too bad that when it got really good with reduced grind and tweaks for the spells, armor etc the population was already too low.. And ppl dont want to start playing a MMO long after the release so the population never raised again.. :(

I will admit it appears AV has fixed everything that caused me to leave back in 2009.  Im very hopeful regarding UW based on the changes they've made to DF1 alone.

I never played Darkfall, but from what little is out there to read about Darkfall:Unholy Wars, it seems it's a facelift of the original with more added to it as well. That's what other companies need to do with classic mmo's like Ultima Online, Asheron's Call, Dark Age of Camelot...Give them a facelift to make them more appealing to the 2012-2013 and beyond mmo fans.

I'll stay lurking about, reading reviews once Darkfall:UW comes out. If it turns out to be good, I'll buy it, if not, I won't.

Originally posted by blythega

Peering back through to release of Darkfall I remember the utter disaster that it was... i..e. the lack of Beta testing (bugs galore) through to the disaster of ordering the game (allowing waves of people in becuase the ordering system was overloaded, downloading and logging in systems were broken and they did not anticipate the numbers). 

My main concern now is that here we are several weeks out from release with supposedly a brand new game with a lot of new feature that has not been properly Beta tested, stress tested etc.

Seems they have not learnt from the original release .. or have they? 

My prediction is the release will be rough and many of the new systems bugged or not implemented properly through lack of testing.

It is beyond belief that they are going down the same path.

 

 

 

they actully did have beta test for df1 just the release caused problems that didnt appear in beta for some reason. and there was other issues that didnt get resolved either

i was in the beta. Plus they bassiccly been using df1 as the beta since the new game is just optimizations and BIg changes