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  Vhaln

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10/19/12 8:01:13 AM#101

I'm concerned that Smedley just knows that "sandbox" is this huge buzzword, but he doesn't know or care what it really means.  Will it just be a sandbox, the way the first EQ was (not!) a sandbox?

 

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  User Deleted
10/19/12 8:01:58 AM#102
Originally posted by JeroKane

Why don't they look at TSW's design and improve on that.

Its not hard to improve on that heaping pile of excrement.

Back to the topic, Sandbox was really the only viable option for them, and to be honest it suits the Everquest franchise. Yes it was the first themepark, but it also has a lore and world far deeper than anything released since.

They cant out-themepark the big themeparks, they tried with EQ2 and its just not going to happen, the only way for them to succeed with EQ3 is to fill the sandbox market.

  Rimmersman

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10/19/12 8:07:59 AM#103
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by JeroKane

Why don't they look at TSW's design and improve on that.

Its not hard to improve on that heaping pile of excrement.

Back to the topic, Sandbox was really the only viable option for them, and to be honest it suits the Everquest franchise. Yes it was the first themepark, but it also has a lore and world far deeper than anything released since.

They cant out-themepark the big themeparks, they tried with EQ2 and its just not going to happen, the only way for them to succeed with EQ3 is to fill the sandbox market.

I just spat my coffee all over my boss which is my dad lol. Seriously though that was funny as hell. But on a serious note i actually like TSW but asking for EQNext to go the same route as TSW is just dumb.

Seem JeroKane hasn't been reading what Smed has said lol.

  health001

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10/19/12 8:09:22 AM#104
Originally posted by ShakyMo
I will be amazed if this game doesn't have a raid based endgame.

it better have underwater raids :) zerg style raids! remember doing Ntov raids having 5 and 6 100+ size guild trying to bum rush mobs,omg monks wiping full raids !!!!! great times

  Rimmersman

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10/19/12 8:10:56 AM#105
Originally posted by Vhaln

I'm concerned that Smedley just knows that "sandbox" is this huge buzzword, but he doesn't know or care what it really means.  Will it just be a sandbox, the way the first EQ was (not!) a sandbox?

 

He said "type of sandbox" that does not mean it's going to be a total sandbox game, i think from what he has said in the past that it will take some elements from Vanguard and EQ1 with updated features.

Hybrid is the way.

  WereLlama

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10/19/12 8:28:41 AM#106

Are we even going to be playing games on the PC when this game comes out?

 

  Rimmersman

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10/19/12 8:30:08 AM#107
Originally posted by BlitzVF

Are we even going to be playing games on the PC when this game comes out?

 

Speak for yourself, PC gaming is here to stay.

  cataphracht

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10/19/12 8:42:08 AM#108
Everquest is definitely my favourite brand for mmorpg's, every other doesn't  have the right  touch.... Had a lot of fun with eq1 & eq2 it's actually a bit  worrying they will go a different route and make a sandbox -  hoping it  works out  wont be really touching other mmo's anymore 

  Entris38

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10/19/12 8:42:32 AM#109

I am just happy to see another EQ world coming. Love the lore behind EQ. Started with UO and ended up in EQ a few months after launch and have played EQ2 off and on for its existance. I do hope it doesn't go the way of GW2, some people love that game, it just wasn't for me. I do hope the hybrid way they go is Vanguard'ish.  I am not a huge sandbox fan, but EQ lore would draw me to it.

Really wish it was not so far off..........

  rungard

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The Sandbox Foundation does not exist!

10/19/12 8:55:44 AM#110

theres more to it than just this game. If it does well well see more worlds.

I cant see that as being a bad thing.

  Icewhite

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Pink, it's like red but not quite.

10/19/12 9:00:49 AM#111
Smed's not known for honest assessment of games...

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Istavaan

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10/19/12 9:02:39 AM#112
Originally posted by Ripostethis
Not enough funding to make it a big theme park mmo like Everquest 2 was. Will be something like GW2 , sounds like it will suck and be boring if you are into PVE, but will be based on pvp.

This guy is already moaning and bitch, incredible haha. Sony has more money than any other mmo company.

  Rimmersman

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10/19/12 9:06:06 AM#113
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Ripostethis
Not enough funding to make it a big theme park mmo like Everquest 2 was. Will be something like GW2 , sounds like it will suck and be boring if you are into PVE, but will be based on pvp.

This guy is already moaning and bitch, incredible haha. Sony has more money than any other mmo company.

Well i think we sent him packing back to the messiahs forum.

  Rimmersman

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10/19/12 9:09:21 AM#114
Originally posted by Icewhite
Smed's not known for honest assessment of games...

Where EQ is concerned Smed tells it like it is, nothing come before his first MMO child. Nope, Smed will go all out to make EQNext an epic rebirth of the original EQ.

  Icewhite

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Pink, it's like red but not quite.

10/19/12 9:11:23 AM#115
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by Icewhite
Smed's not known for honest assessment of games...

Where EQ is concerned Smed tells it like it is, nothing come before his first MMO child. Nope, Smed will go all out to make EQNext an epic rebirth of the original EQ.

Did he send you a t-shirt to wear? Picture for your wall?

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  fenistil

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10/19/12 9:12:24 AM#116
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Ripostethis
Not enough funding to make it a big theme park mmo like Everquest 2 was. Will be something like GW2 , sounds like it will suck and be boring if you are into PVE, but will be based on pvp.

This guy is already moaning and bitch, incredible haha. Sony has more money than any other mmo company.

Not really it does not.  Sony is in big trouble atm, it is losing money as crazy and it lost alot of it's worth in last years. SoE is not in bad shape, but Sony overall it is.

 

  Rimmersman

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10/19/12 9:18:54 AM#117
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by Icewhite
Smed's not known for honest assessment of games...

Where EQ is concerned Smed tells it like it is, nothing come before his first MMO child. Nope, Smed will go all out to make EQNext an epic rebirth of the original EQ.

Did he send you a t-shirt to wear? Picture for your wall?

Nope but having played the game for six years i won't hide the fact i'm an avid EQ fan and where EQ is concerned a Smed fan.

So put that in you're pipe and smoke it.

  Incomparable

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10/19/12 9:25:47 AM#118
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by Incomparable
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by Incomparable
I am concerned with how SOE tries to sell this mmo as a sand box, and what they think is good for the market with a history of sand box mmos failing. If they think by making a sand box mmo that is purely sand box and player created content only then it won't do well. It will still need epic bosses, npcs with alignment systems, advanced ai, questing, Mini games, and complex and rewarding combat. Those are not staple sand box features but are important enough to include. Also things like crafting, customization, are staples of sand box mmos... However rare items are not. Then there should be a balance of introducing rare items with unique uses, and stats but still fit with a sand box mmo... Since these kind of rewards are also great to encourage exploration. And I do hope it has the depth of sand box mmos, and enough otter non sand box content as well. Having missions to do is still important, and it being a pure sand box mmo takes away the feeling of being on a quest when getting rewards but instead macroing skills for end game. And it would be nice if there was quests and a skill point system like tsw, but a short trip to reach end game, and lvling is horizontal to acquire rewards in quests, not macros of chopping wood all the time, for end game. And usual, I prefer games to be for a mature audience since they can put content that makes the game more enjoyable without having to worry about ratings.

He said a sandbox type MMO, this to me means some kind of hybrid along the lines of Vanguard but with an up to date questing system and so forth. As long as people don't take his word as literally a sandbox their should not be any over the top expectations.

He did mention a way back that they are taking a more EQ/Vanguard approach, this could be the one that calls all the old EQ vets back home.

He also said the classes will be more akin to EQ than they are in EQ2, Vanguard classes share more in common with EQ than they do in EQ2.

Van guard is cool. But they said sand box so I'm guessing something more ambitious than van guard in terms of housing and large scale combat. Or am I getting over hyped?

Explain what you mean by housing and large scale combat plz mate.

An economy that revolves around controlling strategic locations by building cities or guild castles to have easier access to these points of interest. And these are areas that might be the housing for intents and purposes... but more about actual use than decoration, and it of course involves pvp. Possibly including destructible houses or just guild castles that are destructible. And new guilds castles can levy high taxes to try to force out existing players to sell their land or possibly other tools the devs can introduce to make the game have non instanced housing ( which might mean capacity is reached) that is fun and realistic that involves a player generated economy and destructible houses and/or guild castles. Also there should be ai/npc involved with the usages of these areas and how it affects the areas and npcs, since I believe npc alignment should play a major role in how it affects the world. Since we do a lot of quests for people it is essentially building favor for the area or even race which may be scattered, or even relocated affecting events in the world.

“Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  GeezerGamer

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10/19/12 9:32:42 AM#119
Originally posted by Thorqemada

Its SOE - i believe it when i see it!

 

Even if it wasn't SOE. Not going to make any judgements until I see somthing solid here. Certainly, not boarding any hype trains.

It's the sad state of the genre. The next big title has as many threads discussing issues with it's business model than issues with the game itself.

  halflife25

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10/19/12 9:33:21 AM#120
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by JeroKane

Why don't they look at TSW's design and improve on that.

Its not hard to improve on that heaping pile of excrement.

Back to the topic, Sandbox was really the only viable option for them, and to be honest it suits the Everquest franchise. Yes it was the first themepark, but it also has a lore and world far deeper than anything released since.

They cant out-themepark the big themeparks, they tried with EQ2 and its just not going to happen, the only way for them to succeed with EQ3 is to fill the sandbox market.

This coming from somoeone who wouldn't listen to one negative thign about GW2. Where does your 'reasonable crticism' goes when it comes to other games? something you people can't stop parroting about on GW2 forums?

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