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  rungard

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The Sandbox Foundation does not exist!

11/09/12 6:59:06 AM#841

well..

 

this has taken a turn to the weird. lol.

 

certainly brad has had some really good ideas but he has had some equallty bad ideas.

Good:

factions, classes, theme, challenge, fluff...

bad:

levelling, raiding, camping, wait your turn gameplay, bookstaring.

 

if hes working on the game lets hope hes learned something over the past 14 years.

  pvpirl

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11/09/12 6:59:46 AM#842

  rungard

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11/09/12 7:42:49 AM#843

Lets hope fires of heaven stays in eq where they belong. We dont need them turning yet another game into a raid grinder.

thats half the problem these days in mmo's. Special interest groups getting into alpha/beta early and getting in bed with the developers. Reliance on endgame raiding has had its day. Time to let it go.

 

  Rimmersman

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11/09/12 7:49:52 AM#844
Originally posted by rungard

Lets hope fires of heaven stays in eq where they belong. We dont need them turning yet another game into a raid grinder.

thats half the problem these days in mmo's. Special interest groups getting into alpha/beta early and getting in bed with the developers. Reliance on endgame raiding has had its day. Time to let it go.

 

Fire of heaven or not, EQNext will be very raid and PVE centric with an robust PvP system available on select servers.

  rungard

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11/09/12 7:52:31 AM#845
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by rungard

Lets hope fires of heaven stays in eq where they belong. We dont need them turning yet another game into a raid grinder.

thats half the problem these days in mmo's. Special interest groups getting into alpha/beta early and getting in bed with the developers. Reliance on endgame raiding has had its day. Time to let it go.

 

Fire of heaven or not, EQNext will be very raid and PVE centric with an robust PvP system available on select servers.

 somehow i just dont think so, but well have to wait and see wont we.

  Siveria

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11/09/12 7:57:59 AM#846
In b4 its just a generic wow clone. Sandbox and mmo just doesn't seem to work well, to me a sandbox has full crafting of even player housing, cities, but also has lots to do, which most mmo's lack, I don't call doing repeting quests content, since they are all fetch this, or kill this, nothing epic or intersting about that. Anyway, I just hope they don't screw it up, but remember: never believe the shit these devs spew because most of the time it never happens. *points at swtor as a prime example* "Cinematic heroic combat" you get in game and its just wow.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  pvpirl

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11/09/12 8:27:29 AM#847


Originally posted by rungard
well..

 

this has taken a turn to the weird. lol.

 

certainly brad has had some really good ideas but he has had some equallty bad ideas.

Good:

factions, classes, theme, challenge, fluff...

bad:

levelling, raiding, camping, wait your turn gameplay, bookstaring.

 

if hes working on the game lets hope hes learned something over the past 14 years.


I think the failures of both Smed and Brad, coupled with their seeming willingness to change and return to the drawing board maybe be fertile grounds for good game design.

Having said that, confirmation of Brad actually working on EQN is not there yet, I fired off an e-mail to him for shits and giggles to confirm this other e-mail.

  CalmOceans

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11/09/12 1:21:26 PM#848

They open classic servers a lot of EQ if that is what you like to do. Fippy and Vulak and some others opened  a while ago, I forgot all the names.

As for FoH, they are the ones who bailed on Everquest during GoD and ran off to WoW. I don't know why they even get mentioned, they haven't been in EQ for 10 years. I remember them as a very annoying bunch, they were before they ran off to WoW and in any game they rear their ugly head.

  Rimmersman

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11/09/12 1:31:18 PM#849
Originally posted by rungard
Originally posted by Rimmersman
Originally posted by rungard

Lets hope fires of heaven stays in eq where they belong. We dont need them turning yet another game into a raid grinder.

thats half the problem these days in mmo's. Special interest groups getting into alpha/beta early and getting in bed with the developers. Reliance on endgame raiding has had its day. Time to let it go.

 

Fire of heaven or not, EQNext will be very raid and PVE centric with an robust PvP system available on select servers.

 somehow i just dont think so, but well have to wait and see wont we.

Lol, you really think that smed is going to turn EQ into a sandbox PVP game with PVE as an add on? I'm not saying it will be a total copy of EQ but make no mistake EQNext  will have plenty of raiding and PVE, more so than PVP.

What updated PVE/RAID system we will get  i don't know but it will be there.

  DavisFlight

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Posts: 2512

11/09/12 1:36:39 PM#850
Originally posted by rungard

well..

 

this has taken a turn to the weird. lol.

 

certainly brad has had some really good ideas but he has had some equallty bad ideas.

Good:

factions, classes, theme, challenge, fluff...

bad:

levelling, raiding, camping, wait your turn gameplay, bookstaring.

 

if hes working on the game lets hope hes learned something over the past 14 years.

I hope you aren't implying that an MMO needs instancing... DAoC did great raids and had no camping in the game world, and it didn't have any instancing.

Also, Brad made Vanguard, which is probably the best PvE MMo to date. He's learned quite a lot.

  rungard

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Joined: 7/25/03
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The Sandbox Foundation does not exist!

11/09/12 2:36:01 PM#851
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by rungard

well..

 

this has taken a turn to the weird. lol.

 

certainly brad has had some really good ideas but he has had some equallty bad ideas.

Good:

factions, classes, theme, challenge, fluff...

bad:

levelling, raiding, camping, wait your turn gameplay, bookstaring.

 

if hes working on the game lets hope hes learned something over the past 14 years.

I hope you aren't implying that an MMO needs instancing... DAoC did great raids and had no camping in the game world, and it didn't have any instancing.

Also, Brad made Vanguard, which is probably the best PvE MMo to date. He's learned quite a lot.

 No im no fan of instances but im no fan of rare spawn camping either. I was just pointing out that not everything was great in everquest. Well see what mcquaid has learned. I look forward to him being on the EQN team but i certainly wont use vanguard as proof of anything.

  OG_Zorvan

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11/09/12 5:03:20 PM#852
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Lol at having the code, having code is next to useless if you don't have the guys that wrote it.

If that were true, you wouldn't have game companies stealing other companies code ( remember NCsoft vs. Blue Hole with the stolen Lineage 3 code used for TERA? ), you wouldn't have private servers where new items and mechanics have been added the originals don't have, etc., etc.

EA CEO John Riccitiello's on future microtransactions: "When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging."

  pvpirl

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Posts: 171

11/09/12 7:18:00 PM#853

Its all merely a rumor at this point anyway..

Having said that, some McQuaid involvement in EQN does make this already controversial title even moreso, I dig it.

  rungard

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The Sandbox Foundation does not exist!

11/09/12 8:46:36 PM#854

they should call the game "Everquest Free"

it rhymes with everquest 3

its free to play

its a sandbox which emphasizes player freedom.

can we get a forum now? lol.

  pvpirl

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11/09/12 10:33:29 PM#855

wtb EQN forum.

  Torgrim

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11/10/12 2:34:23 AM#856
Originally posted by Starpower
And even if we get what's promised, I'm sure forumgoers will have plenty to bitch about anyway.

 

That is the order of things.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  CalmOceans

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11/10/12 6:24:19 PM#857
the thread was on the second page already, omg you guys, I'm away 5 minutes and look what happens
  rungard

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11/10/12 7:26:56 PM#858

Smed? Georgenson? Aradune? anyone?

were in dire need of a detail...any detail.....

  Rydeson

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Posts: 3259

11/10/12 8:29:54 PM#859
Originally posted by rungard

well..

 

this has taken a turn to the weird. lol.

 

certainly brad has had some really good ideas but he has had some equallty bad ideas.

Good:

factions, classes, theme, challenge, fluff...

bad:

levelling, and what is wrong using an artificial tool to indicate experience and skill?  Real life jobs, and military have it.. you just can't expect to jump into something and be King..  raiding,  This can be a good thing iif done correctly , or a bad thing like how WoW and others did  it.. camping,  I actually enjoyed camping a location whether I was by myself or a group..  wait your turn gameplay, bookstaring.

 

if hes working on the game lets hope hes learned something over the past 14 years.

 

  Yizle

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Posts: 528

11/10/12 8:36:45 PM#860
Is mmorpg.com anti EQN? Over 80 pages on this thread and we still can not get a forum for it.
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