Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Sentime

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

He want's to know if GW2 is worth the sub fee. Not other games, if you would never pay a sub fee for any theme park then by default you answer here is No.

The options that are given aren't enough to determine whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not.

Let's say that 70% of the voters say "no". This doesn't say whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not because maybe some people voted no because there isn't a game they feel is worth a sub yet, others might vote no because they feel that paying a sub is a stupid concept and no game ever will be worth a sub. The current options don't allow for enough information to answer the OP's question.

 

What?

Would You Pay $14.99 Monthly Fee for GuildWars2?

How can you make the question more simple or direct? 

 

 

But that's just it, they don't want the question to be simple or direct.

I like simple and direct questions. The problem is that on this forum people will take the results and start waving them around as if they prove some point even though they actually provide very little usefull information.

I'm all for simple polls like this, my problem is what people use the results for and how they use them here.

Basically you don't like how the votes are playing out? and can't use your better judgement [mod edit] a

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Sentime

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

He want's to know if GW2 is worth the sub fee. Not other games, if you would never pay a sub fee for any theme park then by default you answer here is No.

The options that are given aren't enough to determine whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not.

Let's say that 70% of the voters say "no". This doesn't say whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not because maybe some people voted no because there isn't a game they feel is worth a sub yet, others might vote no because they feel that paying a sub is a stupid concept and no game ever will be worth a sub. The current options don't allow for enough information to answer the OP's question.

 

What?

Would You Pay $14.99 Monthly Fee for GuildWars2?

How can you make the question more simple or direct? 

 

 

But that's just it, they don't want the question to be simple or direct.

I like simple and direct questions. The problem is that on this forum people will take the results and start waving them around as if they prove some point even though they actually provide very little usefull information.

I'm all for simple polls like this, my problem is what people use the results for and how they use them here.

They have the right to do so. As long as the results are truthful and kept in context, So what?  If they aren't then call them out on the BS. Otherwise make your own poll to counter it.

Originally posted by crosslee

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Sentime

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

He want's to know if GW2 is worth the sub fee. Not other games, if you would never pay a sub fee for any theme park then by default you answer here is No.

The options that are given aren't enough to determine whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not.

Let's say that 70% of the voters say "no". This doesn't say whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not because maybe some people voted no because there isn't a game they feel is worth a sub yet, others might vote no because they feel that paying a sub is a stupid concept and no game ever will be worth a sub. The current options don't allow for enough information to answer the OP's question.

 

What?

Would You Pay $14.99 Monthly Fee for GuildWars2?

How can you make the question more simple or direct? 

 

 

But that's just it, they don't want the question to be simple or direct.

I like simple and direct questions. The problem is that on this forum people will take the results and start waving them around as if they prove some point even though they actually provide very little usefull information.

I'm all for simple polls like this, my problem is what people use the results for and how they use them here.

Basically you don't like how the votes are playing out? and can't use your better judgement IF a troll comes along and uses it to prove some point.?!?! im confused lol

I  can. It's other people who can't, and this forum is full of threads about "X game is dying" and "X game sucks" and "don't buy X game". Simply having a well made poll could cut down on all the pointless and idiotic threads so people can actually have a constructive conversation without people waving around half-assed statistics to push their own agendas.

If I wanted to play, it wouldn't matter if it's f2p or sub. I'd play it if it was good (isn't for me).

I'm not the type of person that has TIME for games I'd "sort of" want to play, in the sense that there's a middle ground where I'd only play something if it's free. Luckily, I have the time to post about it :)

I only play games that are good.

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by crosslee

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Sentime

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

He want's to know if GW2 is worth the sub fee. Not other games, if you would never pay a sub fee for any theme park then by default you answer here is No.

The options that are given aren't enough to determine whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not.

Let's say that 70% of the voters say "no". This doesn't say whether people feel GW2 is worth a sub or not because maybe some people voted no because there isn't a game they feel is worth a sub yet, others might vote no because they feel that paying a sub is a stupid concept and no game ever will be worth a sub. The current options don't allow for enough information to answer the OP's question.

 

What?

Would You Pay $14.99 Monthly Fee for GuildWars2?

How can you make the question more simple or direct? 

 

 

But that's just it, they don't want the question to be simple or direct.

I like simple and direct questions. The problem is that on this forum people will take the results and start waving them around as if they prove some point even though they actually provide very little usefull information.

I'm all for simple polls like this, my problem is what people use the results for and how they use them here.

Basically you don't like how the votes are playing out? and can't use your better judgement IF a troll comes along and uses it to prove some point.?!?! im confused lol

I  can. It's other people who can't, and this forum is full of threads about "X game is dying" and "X game sucks" and "don't buy X game". Simply having a well made poll could cut down on all the pointless and idiotic threads so people can actually have a constructive conversation without people waving around half-assed statistics to push their own agendas.

Basically insulted others saying they can't get well informed by themselves quote "I  can. It's other people who can't" and want to guide said people without better judgement into your way of thinking?!?!? sounds like your trying to push your own agenda that your oh so against and this poll will somehow make you work harder in completing your goals. . hypocritical?

No, I wouldn't. Monthly fees don't suit GW games IMO. GW1 didn't have one and GW2 shouldn't have one, either, especially considering how much ANet has waves the "no monthly fee" thing around. If they had a sudden change of heart when making GW2, they'd be a bunch of hypocrites.

Expansion packs are the better payment model.

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

Ah, but many people would, their are themeparks and then their is GW2 which is not worth a sub.

Wouldn't pay a monthly fee for any themepark anymore... That bus has drove away long time ago.

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

Ah, but many people would, their are themeparks and then their is GW2 which is not worth a sub.

which is your opinion. For me, not any single themepark nowadays is worth a sub and I wouldn't give a penny for that scam.

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

This. 

Though I did sub to TSW for an extra month until GW2 came out, prolly would of been same via versa. Because I just won't be doing subs period. 

i voted no

i still fail to see why you want a sub fee its like shouting here have my money for nothing 

what has any mmo  given the players  for the sub fee 

i still have  yet to see anything thats worth $15  dollers   for  any free updates let alone  the months you have to play  and pay    where you dont recive anything

when you look at game they  roughly cost 3 times a sub fee   so every 3 months i would expect a expansion the size of a complete game  do you get that much content added  every 3 months you dont get that much added  if you took all updates and addedd them all together

Absolutely not.

Anets response to issues and bugs is terrible & there is no endgame to keep me playing.

And no exploring maps and pvp is not endgame.

Originally posted by zimboy69

i still have  yet to see anything thats worth $15  dollers   for  any free updates let alone  the months you have to play  and pay    where you dont recive anything

Well, you get to play the game. I know that sounds bad, considering you've payed for the game already, but that's how services work.

Even without extra content added (and there always is), it's still a service that requires payment.

Free 2 play games shutdown servers all the time, and fast (I don't mean just MMOs here). Look at EA Sports games. With those, you get a limited time service (until the next iteration of the game, or so) and that's it. Still a service, though.

Originally posted by korent1991

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by Aerowyn
should of added a third option that said "I wouldn't pay a sub fee for any themepark MMO"

Ah, but many people would, their are themeparks and then their is GW2 which is not worth a sub.

which is your opinion. For me, not any single themepark nowadays is worth a sub and I wouldn't give a penny for that scam.

It's not my opinion it's a fact, check WOW,EQ2, RIFT, LOTRO and AOC if you think it's just my opinion. Some of those games i mention are F2P but also have people paying subs.

Contrary to what the the faithful think, sub are far from dead.

I won't pay a sub fee for any game. Subscriptions prevent you from actually OWNING the game. For example, I have spent probably spent $720 on subscription fees + base game + expansions on WoW. Do I own anything for spending nearly $900-1000 on WoW? Sure, several CDs.

Sub fees should be removed permanently if you ask me. But then again I wouldn't play any MMO nowadays, sub or no sub.

Originally posted by nsignific

Originally posted by zimboy69

i still have  yet to see anything thats worth $15  dollers   for  any free updates let alone  the months you have to play  and pay    where you dont recive anything

Well, you get to play the game. I know that sounds bad, considering you've payed for the game already, but that's how services work.

Even without extra content added (and there always is), it's still a service that requires payment.

Free 2 play games shutdown servers all the time, and fast (I don't mean just MMOs here). Look at EA Sports games. With those, you get a limited time service (until the next iteration of the game, or so) and that's it. Still a service, though.

but you dont compaire it to games like skyrim ,civ v , total war ,halflife and now gw2

at least when they release a expansion you can see what your paying for and choose to buy it  and  i can still play the game if i dont get the expansion

im all for paid content  and new versions of a game at least then you can see what your gettting for your money

but wow for example  says  you have  to buy this exact same game every 3 months  for nothing new or extra

years ago  you could justify a cost to running a mmo

but the cost is so small  now that   they dont even have a heading for  server costs on there own accounts

even your example of a ea sports game you only buy the game even with its limited time frame  its still not  the cost of a game + a subscription

the subscription is nothing but a cash scam  no reason for it   other than to get money for nothing 

I said no, but GW2 is built to be a super casual game, therefore it doesn't fit the subscription model by default.

So the question is a bit redundant.