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General Discussion  » Do you feel that GW2 deserves the critical acclaim it's gotten from the press and gaming sites?

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  TwoThreeFour

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10/18/12 10:12:11 AM#121
Originally posted by Piiritus
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Xzen
Just block grimal. They don't know anything about the game and it's likely they will never have anything of value to say about anything.

Yeah lets block everyone who doen't share same opinions...thanks for the nice idea. How come i never thought about this? 

I mean it is an open discussion forum after alll.

His opinion of it not being an MMORPG is ridiculous and you can back him up all you like but you're still wrong. i could just go out and say call of duty isn't an fps because it's not exactly the same as how battlefield does fps's, but i would look stupid no matter how much i think i'm right.

Opinion is an opinion. That is all it is. You can not prove an opinion right or wrong unles he is distorting some facts etched into stones. And as far as i remember the definition of what is MMO is not set in stone or some universal fact.

So please be my guest and continue to argue about opinions.

People also had an opinion that the world was flat, his opinion does not disprove guild wars 2 being an mmorpg. Until he can prove so then guild wars 2 well remain an mmorpg.

World is not flat is scientificly proven fact. I didn't know MMOS were  proven facts when it comes to their definitions.

You can not state that your game is an mmo when it is in fact not. that is false advertising and you can be sued or have your product taken off the market.

Out of curiosity: does the term "MMO" have a legal definition?

Legal definition hardly but you can define what are you talking about based on legal terminology. Basically if you need internet connection to play a certain video game and there are multiple people playing it simultaneously it can be called an MMO imo. Also, as you are playing somebody else there it can be as ell be an RPG :) I'm not trying to define here something and in my opinion GW2 is an MMO all right. It's also an RPG but a very very bad RPG in my opinion.

You are confident that your reasoning would pass in a court in your country?  (I am not trying to argue, I am just very interested in how the term "MMO" is and can be used within the legal system and since I am not a lawyer that deals with such cases or has read such cases I am far from sure)

  ESSKA

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Joined: 11/08/06
Posts: 105

10/18/12 10:13:26 AM#122
Originally posted by ragz45

GW2 has been out long enough for the fans to form a solid opinion on the game.  How do you feel about the critcal aclaim that the game has gotten from many reviews & game sites?  Were they right on the money, or hyped up dramatically?  Few examples below, but the list goes on.

  • G4 - Best MMO Game of 2012
  • JeuxVideo - Guild Wars 2 isn't a simple sequel, this MMO is a revolution!
  • PC Gamer #207 -  groundbreaking world events and mind-blowing class design
  • VG247 UK - Ridiculous attention to details... shockingly good
  • Quarter to Three - This isn't just a great example of the genre and arguably the Second Coming of MMOs.
  • Gamer.nl  - After years of EverQuest clones the genre finally makes a great leap forward.

Such a dumb post. Why do you care? Its like people just cannot stand to see this game succeed making these rediculous threads.

  Rimmersman

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Joined: 10/15/12
Posts: 911

10/18/12 10:14:06 AM#123
Originally posted by salenger
Originally posted by Rimmersman

Oh this will be good, if it doesn't go the way the avid fans want their will be hell to pay lol.

And to answer the OP, no i don't think Guild Bores 2 deserves the acclaim, the novelty soon wears off and you are left feeling, what is the point.

It has a few good things going for it but it's not the second coming like some over the top fans think.

Of course this is just my take on it but i found it boring as hell, hence the name Guild Bores 2.

I have to agree, i still play GW2...but it feels more like a single player MMO with a multiplayer mode, i really dont feel the MMO aspects of this game at all, i pretty much play solo aside from events 90% of the time i spend in game, at level 50 i find the game very repetitive and boring, i still log in but the only thing i can say I honestly enjoy about this game is the exploration and world, they did a very good job on the world.

But aside from that the combat, story, MMO aspects of GW2 is as you said boring.

Yeah, the world is great, their is no mistaking that but the rest  of the game is as dull as drain water. 

  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 4660

10/18/12 10:14:46 AM#124

Most players form their own opinion and could care less for reviews.

Imo, GW2 is one of the prettiest yet shallowest games I've played in a while. That is what GW2 is to me, a good background game to kill some time when your main MMO is getting patched or between raids etc...

 

  Siug

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Joined: 5/02/12
Posts: 976

10/18/12 10:15:19 AM#125
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Piiritus
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by halflife25
Originally posted by Xzen
Just block grimal. They don't know anything about the game and it's likely they will never have anything of value to say about anything.

Yeah lets block everyone who doen't share same opinions...thanks for the nice idea. How come i never thought about this? 

I mean it is an open discussion forum after alll.

His opinion of it not being an MMORPG is ridiculous and you can back him up all you like but you're still wrong. i could just go out and say call of duty isn't an fps because it's not exactly the same as how battlefield does fps's, but i would look stupid no matter how much i think i'm right.

Opinion is an opinion. That is all it is. You can not prove an opinion right or wrong unles he is distorting some facts etched into stones. And as far as i remember the definition of what is MMO is not set in stone or some universal fact.

So please be my guest and continue to argue about opinions.

People also had an opinion that the world was flat, his opinion does not disprove guild wars 2 being an mmorpg. Until he can prove so then guild wars 2 well remain an mmorpg.

World is not flat is scientificly proven fact. I didn't know MMOS were  proven facts when it comes to their definitions.

You can not state that your game is an mmo when it is in fact not. that is false advertising and you can be sued or have your product taken off the market.

Out of curiosity: does the term "MMO" have a legal definition?

Legal definition hardly but you can define what are you talking about based on legal terminology. Basically if you need internet connection to play a certain video game and there are multiple people playing it simultaneously it can be called an MMO imo. Also, as you are playing somebody else there it can be as ell be an RPG :) I'm not trying to define here something and in my opinion GW2 is an MMO all right. It's also an RPG but a very very bad RPG in my opinion.

You are confident that your reasoning would pass in a court in your country?  (I am not trying to argue, I am just very interested in how the term "MMO" is and can be used within the legal system and since I am not a lawyer that deals with such cases or has read such cases I am far from sure)

I'm more familiar with the civil law system and don't know much about American court practice. As the core of gaming industry is in the US there may have been some cases related to subject. I just don't know.

  Istavaan

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Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 1398

10/18/12 10:16:06 AM#126
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by halflife25
(...)

Does "Massively" refer to the concurrent population playing within visible range, same server or same game? Perhaps it refers to the accounts created or the game copies bought? How is massively defined and what is the least amount required for it stay "massively"? Is it perhaps tied to the design and max capacity? If a game has almost no population at one point but lots during previous years, is it still "massively" at the end?

What are the necessary requirements to be considered a "Role-Playing Game"?

you cannot just pick one word out of the acronym and question its definition, it's massively multiplayer online role playing game. Massively on it's own has no real meaning unless it's describing something. I'm pretty sure it was originally massive not massively.

What kind of definition is it then? Because it neither sems to be a intensional definition (as in specifying the necessary and sufficient conditions for being a member of a specific set)  or exensional definition (as in a list naming every object that is a member of the set).

 

Do check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition for further explanation of the terminology.

I know what definition means einstein, but you cannot define mmorpg by just defining one of the M's..quit while you're ahead.

  Istavaan

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Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 1398

10/18/12 10:17:03 AM#127
Originally posted by DMKano

Most players form their own opinion and could care less for reviews.

Imo, GW2 is one of the prettiest yet shallowest games I've played in a while. That is what GW2 is to me, a good background game to kill some time when your main MMO is getting patched or between raids etc...

 

If you like rading that is, not everyone likes to play a reskinned wow.

  Zorgo

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Joined: 12/05/05
Posts: 2192

Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

10/18/12 10:18:19 AM#128
Originally posted by The_Korrigan
Originally posted by Zorgo

The central difference for a lot of us is this:

An mmorpg: you write the story.

An mmo: you read the story.

By that definition, there's no single player computer RPG which is a RPG either.

You, my friend, confuse "sandbox" with "rpg". The two can be assembled into one game, granted, but are definitely not mutually exclusive.

In pen and paper RPG sessions, the dungeon master tells you a story too. You can choose to ruin it and completely stray away from it, granted, and it can make up for some amusing sessions (I've improvised crazy stuff myself when that happened), but you better find another dungeon master or even RPG club to play with if you do that regularly.

There's a "core" group here on an anti-crusade against every single theme park MMORPG released, and they always use the same, wrong arguments. It's a bit like saying that a movie isn't a movie because it was never release in a theater but only shown on TV. It's nonsense.

There are different styles in the MMORPG genre, and no style makes the game less a "RPG".

No no....but I see your point; I should be more specific.

I understand that you can play someone else's role and it be an rpg. I still think GW2 is an rpg. You are definately playing a role.

I also understand that GW2 is massively multiplayer and online. I in fact understand that GW2 is technically an MMORPG.

It would be easy to say I'm talking about themepark vs. sandbox, but that is not the case. In fact, I almost exclusively play themparks. But I like themeparks where 'I' am the visitor. I go where I want when I want and act how I want to act. Today it feels like they haven't just given us the park, they've given us a stand-in to ride the rides for us. I stopped playing GW2 and SWToR for the same reason. I could not stand any of the 'roles' they chose for me. I hated the voice overs, because, I simply would not have my toon act like that or say those things. Not to mention that the dialogue is tired and cliche and seems to be a product of the games structure rather than informing the games structure.

For example;

In everquest, it was a themepark, but I felt like it was 'my toon' running it. My human sk didn't have the same voice over as every other human sk. Same in WoW believe it or not. You run their quests, but never feel like they are 'imposing' words or personality on your toon. In GW2 - they literally put the words in your mouth. And they are the same words of everyone else of your like build.

In DnD, as you rightly pointed out, you had a storyteller also. But it was interactive, unscripted and flexible. No matter how many times you run a dynamic event in GW2 it is essentially the same. Where I could run a module in DnD with a different character and have it be absolutely nothing like the last experience.

This is what I expected out of mmo's as well. It is what a lot of us expected. It's what developers told us they wanted to do.

This is simply an argument of symantics.

I think we can all agree that GW2 is an mmorpg as the industry and community at large conceive them. We are just saying that what has become of mmorpg's is not what we expected the genre to turn into.

So just don't be surprised if some of us ol' timers say things like, 'GW2 isn't an mmorpg' - we aren't 'wrong', we aren't just being 'difficult', we are simply alluding to the fact that at one time, the concept of an 'mmorpg' had a completely and utterly different connotation then what it does today.

Think of it like the word 'gay'. It used to mean happy, giddy. It doesn't any more. When ol' timers use 'mmorpg' we are using the old definition, because the new definition invokes negative connotations to us.

But let me say this again; it is not a themepark vs. sandbox argument. I love a lot of themeparks. But a themepark doesn't preclude the player as a creative force in the world. SWToR and GW2 have done something I never expected to happen in an mmo.

It used to be, when I looked at the log in screen, I saw a character I customized, I created, I invested in.

Now when I look at a log in screen, I see: bioware's consular or arenanet's warrior. Not mine.

There are those of us who feel this role 'creation' is an essential part of why we play these games. GW2 doesn't have it. Therefore, to us, if it is missing the central element, it ceases to be what we call 'mmorpgs'.

  odinsrath

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10/18/12 10:19:40 AM#129

i didnt vote cuz theres no inbetween...yah its a "OK" title ...not really much out there for it to compete with and atm its no doubt the best mmo title out there only cuz its new..fresh..does things different..but is it super-duber-uber -great of a game? ..hell no! maybe its just me ..im geting older and mmos just cant keep my focus anymore IMO as gw2 is fresh / new theres ALOT of things i hate that it brings to the genra cuz maybe im just too old school..i own the game and played it for about a month 1/2 max out pvp'd and all that but it became dull as hell very quick to ME ..is it the holy trinity?..hell no..is it a great game for new comers that are new to the "new" type of mmo genra?..yea its easy peezy..does it deserve awards yah sure ATM theres nothing thats really out there but its far from being the greats game evar! lol..even the new title such as  TSW SWTOR TERRA ARE GAWD AWFULL..but i have my fingers crossed on arche age but still not giveing my hopes up lol

  kaiser3282

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10/18/12 10:21:11 AM#130
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by halflife25
(,,,)

Of course they are. MMORPGS are "Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Games." I don't know how much more of a definition you need. You might throw in "persistent world" into the definition, like most do, and still GW2 squarely meets all the criteria. Whether a game is a "mmorpg" or not is still 100% fact-based thing. The only moment subjective feeling can come into play is with games which are somehow borderline vis-a-vis the definition which is contained in the acronym, (such as GW1, for example, or even D3) GW2 so perfectly meets all the classical criteria that it is perfectly natural that any "opinion" that GW2 is not in fact a mmo is met with derison.

Again Massively Multiplayer Online Role-Playing Game. How much more of a definition do you need?

Does "Massively" refer to the concurrent population playing within visible range, same server or same game? Perhaps it refers to the accounts created or the game copies bought? How is massively defined and what is the least amount required for it stay "massively"? Is it perhaps tied to the design and max capacity? If a game has almost no population at one point but lots during previous years, is it still "massively" at the end?

What are the necessary requirements to be considered a "Role-Playing Game"?

you cannot just pick one word out of the acronym and question its definition, it's massively multiplayer online role playing game. Massively on it's own has no real meaning unless it's describing something. I'm pretty sure it was originally massive not massively.

Actually it was massively, not massive. Unlike some people like to believe, MMO has no bearing on the size of the world or anything along those lines. It can be a tiny little world, but if it is massively multiplayer, it could still be called an MMO.

MMORPG was a term first used by Richard Garriot to describe Ultima Online. It wasnt the size of the world, or seamless vs zoned, or any such nonsense that brought about the term MMORPG. It was simply the fact that large numbers of players could interact with eachother in the same world.

That is ALL an MMO is. A world in which large amounts of players can interact with eachother online. The rest of it, such as RPG, FPS, etc is of course subject to the specifics of that genre and what features the game has. That part could be more debatable as to what those specifics are, but MMO is not debatable, regardless of how much people enjoy thinking it is. IT wasnt some trendy term that people just randomly started using for the hell of it and nobody knows what it really means. It has a clear meaning & application which it was used for by the person who coined the term, Richard Garriott.

  Pilnkplonk

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10/18/12 10:23:36 AM#131
Originally posted by salenger
Originally posted by Rimmersman

Oh this will be good, if it doesn't go the way the avid fans want their will be hell to pay lol.

And to answer the OP, no i don't think Guild Bores 2 deserves the acclaim, the novelty soon wears off and you are left feeling, what is the point.

It has a few good things going for it but it's not the second coming like some over the top fans think.

Of course this is just my take on it but i found it boring as hell, hence the name Guild Bores 2.

I have to agree, i still play GW2...but it feels more like a single player MMO with a multiplayer mode, i really dont feel the MMO aspects of this game at all, i pretty much play solo aside from events 90% of the time i spend in game, at level 50 i find the game very repetitive and boring, i still log in but the only thing i can say I honestly enjoy about this game is the exploration and world, they did a very good job on the world.

But aside from that the combat, story, MMO aspects of GW2 is as you said boring.

See? This is a proper opinion. "I don't feel the mmo aspects of this game at all." That's all proper and valid and you can even elaborate on why this might be so.

Can you folks see how this differs from the statement "This is obviously not a mmo because it does not feel that way to me."

  korent1991

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Joined: 5/01/09
Posts: 1405

10/18/12 10:25:31 AM#132

this type of threads are really getting old. 1 guy doesn't like the game and he has to see if there's someone who shares his opinion.

Yes, the reviews were correct. Mostly everything I've read in the reviews is in the exact shape or form in the game.

And that is no wonder since everything ANET shared with their fans is in the game! Which can't be said for many devs out there nowadays and I think it's really really sad how the suits behind the devs are trying to screw their fans over lately.

Also, I've noticed that every thread which has a poll like that shows that there's more people who like the game than those which don't on this forums.

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  trenshod

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10/18/12 10:25:55 AM#133
I bought into the hype to only find myself burned out by lvl 30. All the beta events kinda steered me down that road. Its visually a awesome game but didn't poses much beyond that for me :(.
  lizardbones

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I've become dependent upon spell check. My apologies for stupid grammatical errors.

10/18/12 10:26:22 AM#134


Originally posted by odinsrath
i didnt vote cuz theres no inbetween...yah its a "OK" title ...not really much out there for it to compete with and atm its no doubt the best mmo title out there only cuz its new..fresh..does things different..but is it super-duber-uber -great of a game? ..hell no! maybe its just me ..im geting older and mmos just cant keep my focus anymore IMO as gw2 is fresh / new theres ALOT of things i hate that it brings to the genra cuz maybe im just too old school..i own the game and played it for about a month 1/2 max out pvp'd and all that but it became dull as hell very quick to ME ..is it the holy trinity?..hell no..is it a great game for new comers that are new to the "new" type of mmo genra?..yea its easy peezy..does it deserve awards yah sure ATM theres nothing thats really out there but its far from being the greats game evar! lol..even the new title such as  TSW SWTOR TERRA ARE GAWD AWFULL..but i have my fingers crossed on arche age but still not giveing my hopes up lol




If your answer isn't, "GW2 deserves the critical acclaim", then the answer is, "No, it does not deserve the critical acclaim".

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  Istavaan

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Posts: 1398

10/18/12 10:27:15 AM#135
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by salenger
Originally posted by Rimmersman

Oh this will be good, if it doesn't go the way the avid fans want their will be hell to pay lol.

And to answer the OP, no i don't think Guild Bores 2 deserves the acclaim, the novelty soon wears off and you are left feeling, what is the point.

It has a few good things going for it but it's not the second coming like some over the top fans think.

Of course this is just my take on it but i found it boring as hell, hence the name Guild Bores 2.

I have to agree, i still play GW2...but it feels more like a single player MMO with a multiplayer mode, i really dont feel the MMO aspects of this game at all, i pretty much play solo aside from events 90% of the time i spend in game, at level 50 i find the game very repetitive and boring, i still log in but the only thing i can say I honestly enjoy about this game is the exploration and world, they did a very good job on the world.

But aside from that the combat, story, MMO aspects of GW2 is as you said boring.

See? This is a proper opinion. "I don't feel the mmo aspects of this game at all." That's all proper and valid and you can even elaborate on why this might be so.

Can you folks see how this differs from the statement "This is obviously not a mmo because it does not feel that way to me."

How does it feel like a single player when you are constantly playing along side other players, it's up to you to interact with them or not. That's like saying i'm walking down a street with lots of other people but because i'm not talking to anyone i'm the only one on the street.

  kaiser3282

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10/18/12 10:31:51 AM#136
Originally posted by Istavaan

How does it feel like a single player when you are constantly playing along side other players, it's up to you to interact with them or not. That's like saying i'm walking down a street with lots of other people but because i'm not talking to anyone i'm the only one on the street.

Always found that part pretty amusing myself. For some reason a lot of people tend to interpret MMO as meaning requires grouping. When really it just means that people are there and you can interact with eachother. How you intereact with them is up to you, and there is no single type of interaction (such as grouping) that defines MMO. Wether or not you choose to interact at all also doesnt change things. The ability to interact is there, you just choose not to use it.

They could completely remove the ability to form parties from thes egames, and they would still be an MMO. Just because there isnt some little thing on your screen that says "Hey. Youre playing with this person!" doesnt mean they arent there.

  Siug

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Posts: 976

10/18/12 10:33:25 AM#137
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by salenger
Originally posted by Rimmersman

Oh this will be good, if it doesn't go the way the avid fans want their will be hell to pay lol.

And to answer the OP, no i don't think Guild Bores 2 deserves the acclaim, the novelty soon wears off and you are left feeling, what is the point.

It has a few good things going for it but it's not the second coming like some over the top fans think.

Of course this is just my take on it but i found it boring as hell, hence the name Guild Bores 2.

I have to agree, i still play GW2...but it feels more like a single player MMO with a multiplayer mode, i really dont feel the MMO aspects of this game at all, i pretty much play solo aside from events 90% of the time i spend in game, at level 50 i find the game very repetitive and boring, i still log in but the only thing i can say I honestly enjoy about this game is the exploration and world, they did a very good job on the world.

But aside from that the combat, story, MMO aspects of GW2 is as you said boring.

See? This is a proper opinion. "I don't feel the mmo aspects of this game at all." That's all proper and valid and you can even elaborate on why this might be so.

Can you folks see how this differs from the statement "This is obviously not a mmo because it does not feel that way to me."

How does it feel like a single player when you are constantly playing along side other players, it's up to you to interact with them or not. That's like saying i'm walking down a street with lots of other people but because i'm not talking to anyone i'm the only one on the street.

I'm far from liking GW2 but I agree that I don't understand this no-MMO argument at all. GW2 is definitely an MMO with every required aspect and I saw other players in every single corner of the world. Tbh I would not want back old EQ style MMO where your only option to play was spamming lfg chat until you found a group. I like to have both options - either play in groups or just solo a bit if I feel I want to. GW2 is definitely an MMO.

  Zorgo

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Joined: 12/05/05
Posts: 2192

Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising?

10/18/12 10:34:03 AM#138
Originally posted by Istavaan
 

How does it feel like a single player when you are constantly playing along side other players, it's up to you to interact with them or not. That's like saying i'm walking down a street with lots of other people but because i'm not talking to anyone i'm the only one on the street.

How about because when you interact with them, they don't interact back? Just because you have the capabilities of interaction doesn't mean it is happening. And it is not a one way street, not only do you have to reach out - someone has to respond.

This happens rarely in GW2 and you know it - social people and guilds are the exception to the rule. I'm sure there are thousands of people who have found social people and guilds in the game, but for the hundreds of thousands, it is still a game where people don't interact with each other very much.

  Istavaan

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Joined: 4/25/12
Posts: 1398

10/18/12 10:34:17 AM#139
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by salenger
Originally posted by Rimmersman

Oh this will be good, if it doesn't go the way the avid fans want their will be hell to pay lol.

And to answer the OP, no i don't think Guild Bores 2 deserves the acclaim, the novelty soon wears off and you are left feeling, what is the point.

It has a few good things going for it but it's not the second coming like some over the top fans think.

Of course this is just my take on it but i found it boring as hell, hence the name Guild Bores 2.

I have to agree, i still play GW2...but it feels more like a single player MMO with a multiplayer mode, i really dont feel the MMO aspects of this game at all, i pretty much play solo aside from events 90% of the time i spend in game, at level 50 i find the game very repetitive and boring, i still log in but the only thing i can say I honestly enjoy about this game is the exploration and world, they did a very good job on the world.

But aside from that the combat, story, MMO aspects of GW2 is as you said boring.

See? This is a proper opinion. "I don't feel the mmo aspects of this game at all." That's all proper and valid and you can even elaborate on why this might be so.

Can you folks see how this differs from the statement "This is obviously not a mmo because it does not feel that way to me."

A proper opinion? that doesn't even make sense. what's a proper opinion?

  User Deleted
10/18/12 10:35:44 AM#140
Originally posted by Zorgo
So just don't be surprised if some of us ol' timers say things like, 'GW2 isn't an mmorpg' - we aren't 'wrong', we aren't just being 'difficult', we are simply alluding to the fact that at one time, the concept of an 'mmorpg' had a completely and utterly different connotation then what it does today.

Just for information - I'm older than you, and been playing RPGs (pen and paper first) for 30+ years too ;-)

Only difference between us is that I don't wear rose colored nostalgia glasses ;-)

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