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General Discussion  » Do you feel that GW2 deserves the critical acclaim it's gotten from the press and gaming sites?

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  Istavaan

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10/18/12 9:57:24 AM#41
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

It's much more of a mmo than, say, SWTOR. I wonder what exactly defines a mmo in some people's minds, monthly subscription, lol? It's at least as much a mmo as a WoW is, and if you don't consider WoW a mmo, then...

I do consider WoW an MMORPG. GW2 I do not.  For me it lacks too many RPG elements to be considered one.  Hence, I would call it an MMO but not an MMORPG.

What rpg elements does it lack that makes it not an MMORPG?

  bcbully

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10/18/12 10:01:33 AM#42
Originally posted by Macecard
Originally posted by Rimmersman

Oh this will be good, if it doesn't go the way the avid fans want their will be hell to pay lol.

And to answer the OP, no i don't think Guild Bores 2 deserves the acclaim, the novelty soon wears off and you are left feeling, what is the point.

It has a few good things going for it but it's not the second coming like some over the top fans think.

Of course this is just my take on it but i found it boring as hell, hence the name Guild Bores 2.

Please name a game that has released in the last 3 years that you played and did not get bored of, or feel the novelty wore off quickly? I may be wrong but I feel that alot of the negative that people pile on MMOs (not just gw2) are negatives that are genre wide., Like complaining about the mass pvp zergfests.... name a game without that...

I may be wrong and you may be quite happy playing a game atm where the novelty has stayed in tact since release.

1. RIFT, I played for 10 months, then let the swtor hype suck me in...

2. Swtor, I played for 3 months with a ridiculous amout of battle grounds played. If Ilum worked and rated bgs came on time. I may have been there longer.

3. TSW, I played 4 months including closed beta (still subbed) With an embarrassing amount of time /played. I will start back up full time as soon as there are some pvp updates. 

 

GW2, I played for 3 weeks. I played a lot in those 3 weeks, hell my /played is probably still higher than a lot of the super supporters. 

 

edit - Comon theme is games w/o wpvp lasted less than 5 months for me.

  grimal

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10/18/12 10:01:37 AM#43
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

What exactly makes it "not an MMOPRG"? I bet you can't answer that question. Raiding does not equal an MMORPG.

For me, an MMORPG must have RPG elements. Namely, a character that I assume in a greater story which progresses throughout. 

Raiding has nothing to do with it.

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  User Deleted
10/18/12 10:03:09 AM#44
Originally posted by Istavaan

What rpg elements does it lack that makes it not an MMORPG?

I guess for some, RPG = endless tiered gear grind as "end game". That was never what a RPG was all about, though, it's just WoW's success which forced "us" into that mindset. All RPG elements are in GW2 - but they aren't force fed to you, which may confuse some players who are used to be leash led to everything they have to do.

  Istavaan

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10/18/12 10:03:33 AM#45
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

What exactly makes it "not an MMOPRG"? I bet you can't answer that question. Raiding does not equal an MMORPG.

For me, an MMORPG must have RPG elements. Namely, a character that I assume in a greater story which progresses throughout. 

Raiding has nothing to do with it.

What RPG elements does it not have, answer the question!

  grimal

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10/18/12 10:03:46 AM#46
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

It's much more of a mmo than, say, SWTOR. I wonder what exactly defines a mmo in some people's minds, monthly subscription, lol? It's at least as much a mmo as a WoW is, and if you don't consider WoW a mmo, then...

I do consider WoW an MMORPG. GW2 I do not.  For me it lacks too many RPG elements to be considered one.  Hence, I would call it an MMO but not an MMORPG.

What rpg elements does it lack that makes it not an MMORPG?

The biggest and most glaring are character advancement and focus.

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  erictlewis

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10/18/12 10:04:18 AM#47

Time to grab a bag of popcorn and a 6 pack of beer, this thread is giong to be clasic.  I think gw2 is ok, just ok.  Its not bad, but on the other hand its not that great either.

 

  bcbully

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Joined: 3/03/12
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10/18/12 10:04:35 AM#48
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

What exactly makes it "not an MMOPRG"? I bet you can't answer that question. Raiding does not equal an MMORPG.

For me, an MMORPG must have RPG elements. Namely, a character that I assume in a greater story which progresses throughout. 

Raiding has nothing to do with it.

Ability progression is a big one for me. I really think GW2 dropped the ball with their ability/combat system. If it were more robust, knowing me I would still be playing. 

  halflife25

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10/18/12 10:04:59 AM#49

Oh boy Grimal surely made the usual suspects very  angry.

*Hands Grimal a shield*

  botrytis

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10/18/12 10:05:57 AM#50
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

It's much more of a mmo than, say, SWTOR. I wonder what exactly defines a mmo in some people's minds, monthly subscription, lol? It's at least as much a mmo as a WoW is, and if you don't consider WoW a mmo, then...

I do consider WoW an MMORPG. GW2 I do not.  For me it lacks too many RPG elements to be considered one.  Hence, I would call it an MMO but not an MMORPG.

It is an MMORPG, no matter what your opinion is. That is fact.

 

No, it is not a Sandbox and if yo only call those MMORPG's, then you are missing a huge amount of games.

 

WoW and GW2 have many traits that are similar, so calling one an MMORPG and the other not, is just your bias and not reality.

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  Istavaan

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10/18/12 10:06:20 AM#51
Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Macecard
Originally posted by Rimmersman

Oh this will be good, if it doesn't go the way the avid fans want their will be hell to pay lol.

And to answer the OP, no i don't think Guild Bores 2 deserves the acclaim, the novelty soon wears off and you are left feeling, what is the point.

It has a few good things going for it but it's not the second coming like some over the top fans think.

Of course this is just my take on it but i found it boring as hell, hence the name Guild Bores 2.

Please name a game that has released in the last 3 years that you played and did not get bored of, or feel the novelty wore off quickly? I may be wrong but I feel that alot of the negative that people pile on MMOs (not just gw2) are negatives that are genre wide., Like complaining about the mass pvp zergfests.... name a game without that...

I may be wrong and you may be quite happy playing a game atm where the novelty has stayed in tact since release.

1. RIFT, I played for 10 months, then let the swtor hype suck me in...

2. Swtor, I played for 3 months with a ridiculous amout of battle grounds played. If Ilum worked and rated bgs came on time. I may have been there longer.

3. TSW, I played 4 months including closed beta (still subbed) With an embarrassing amount of time /played. I will start back up full time as soon as there are some pvp updates. 

 

GW2, I played for 3 weeks. I played a lot in those 3 weeks, hell my /played is probably still higher than a lot of the super supporters. 

I actually find it hilarious that you played guild wars 2 at all. you've been dogging the game for months yet you've put in dozens of hours into it. thanks for the laugh.

  grimal

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10/18/12 10:07:07 AM#52
Originally posted by halflife25

Oh boy Grimal surely made the usual suspects very  angry.

*Hands Grimal a shield*

Not my intention at all.  I am just giving my opinion.  Any are free to disagree with me. 

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  Istavaan

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Posts: 1398

10/18/12 10:08:13 AM#53
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by halflife25

Oh boy Grimal surely made the usual suspects very  angry.

*Hands Grimal a shield*

Not my intention at all.  I am just giving my opinion.  Any are free to disagree with me. 

You're opinion is wrong, guild wars 2 might not be to your taste but like it or not it is still an MMORPG.

  halflife25

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10/18/12 10:09:27 AM#54
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by halflife25

Oh boy Grimal surely made the usual suspects very  angry.

*Hands Grimal a shield*

Not my intention at all.  I am just giving my opinion.  Any are free to disagree with me. 

But that is the problem here. They won't simply diagree with you but make back handed insults and personal remarks to undermine your opinion. it is bound to happen when you see these two or three names startign to post.

  grimal

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10/18/12 10:09:32 AM#55
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

It's much more of a mmo than, say, SWTOR. I wonder what exactly defines a mmo in some people's minds, monthly subscription, lol? It's at least as much a mmo as a WoW is, and if you don't consider WoW a mmo, then...

I do consider WoW an MMORPG. GW2 I do not.  For me it lacks too many RPG elements to be considered one.  Hence, I would call it an MMO but not an MMORPG.

It is an MMORPG, no matter what your opinion is. That is fact.

 

No, it is not a Sandbox and if yo only call those MMORPG's, then you are missing a huge amount of games.

 

WoW and GW2 have many traits that are similar, so calling one an MMORPG and the other not, is just your bias and not reality.

It's not a fact that it's an MMORPG.  If it is, what scientific law has declared it as such?  Just because ANET wants to call it that doesn't mean it's true.

I do not consider it an MMORPG.  If I did, I'd probably have to consider Diablo 3 an MMORPG as well since they both share a great deal of similarities.

"I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you." - Robin Williams

  User Deleted
10/18/12 10:10:43 AM#56

I've been playing RPGs, starting with table top ones, for over 30 years now (I was like 12 or 13 when I played my first pen and paper session), and character progression (aka "spreadsheet gaming") has NEVER been the main or even a major part of a RPG. A RPG is a Role Playing Game, not Microsoft Excel made into a game. Some of the PnP RPGs I've played didn't even have character stats.

Computer gamers have been made to believe that raising numbers in an infinite hamster wheel driven carrot chase is the main element of a RPG. That has not always been true, and several MMORPGs like UO and AC1 have never been about that. It's EQ, WoW and clones which brainwashed "us" into thinking that was the only way to play a MMORPG.

  Istavaan

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10/18/12 10:11:02 AM#57
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

It's much more of a mmo than, say, SWTOR. I wonder what exactly defines a mmo in some people's minds, monthly subscription, lol? It's at least as much a mmo as a WoW is, and if you don't consider WoW a mmo, then...

I do consider WoW an MMORPG. GW2 I do not.  For me it lacks too many RPG elements to be considered one.  Hence, I would call it an MMO but not an MMORPG.

It is an MMORPG, no matter what your opinion is. That is fact.

 

No, it is not a Sandbox and if yo only call those MMORPG's, then you are missing a huge amount of games.

 

WoW and GW2 have many traits that are similar, so calling one an MMORPG and the other not, is just your bias and not reality.

It's not a fact that it's an MMORPG.  If it is, what scientific law has declared it as such?  Just because ANET wants to call it that doesn't mean it's true.

I do not consider it an MMORPG.  If I did, I'd probably have to consider Diablo 3 an MMORPG as well since they both share a great deal of similarities.

diablo 3 is a gear grinding single/co-op rpg..how does it have similarities with guild wars 2? Do you even read what you type? Yes it is a fact that guild wars 2 is an MMOPRG.

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10/18/12 10:13:07 AM#58
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by halflife25

Oh boy Grimal surely made the usual suspects very  angry.

*Hands Grimal a shield*

Not my intention at all.  I am just giving my opinion.  Any are free to disagree with me. 

You're opinion is wrong, guild wars 2 might not be to your taste but like it or not it is still an MMORPG.

And I think you're wrong.  So where does that leave us?

RPGs have traditioneally always been about character progression and advancement.  GW2 has streamlined this feature so much that it is virtually nonexistent.

Let me put it this way: if I remove the cheese from a cheese dish, is it still a cheese dish?  I'd argue not.  That's the point I am trying to make.  GW2 has removed the very cheese from it's dish.  Hence, I don't consider it one any more.

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10/18/12 10:16:35 AM#59
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Pilnkplonk
Originally posted by grimal

It deserves accolades for being a great game (I firmly believe that).

But being a long-time MMORPG player, this game is  not an MMORPG.  So to give it any praise as that is simply underserving.

It's like saying "Pulp Fiction" is a brilliant comedy.  Brilliant film, yes.  Comedy?  May have some elements but that hardly makes it one.

It's much more of a mmo than, say, SWTOR. I wonder what exactly defines a mmo in some people's minds, monthly subscription, lol? It's at least as much a mmo as a WoW is, and if you don't consider WoW a mmo, then...

I do consider WoW an MMORPG. GW2 I do not.  For me it lacks too many RPG elements to be considered one.  Hence, I would call it an MMO but not an MMORPG.

It is an MMORPG, no matter what your opinion is. That is fact.

 

No, it is not a Sandbox and if yo only call those MMORPG's, then you are missing a huge amount of games.

 

WoW and GW2 have many traits that are similar, so calling one an MMORPG and the other not, is just your bias and not reality.

It's not a fact that it's an MMORPG.  If it is, what scientific law has declared it as such?  Just because ANET wants to call it that doesn't mean it's true.

I do not consider it an MMORPG.  If I did, I'd probably have to consider Diablo 3 an MMORPG as well since they both share a great deal of similarities.

diablo 3 is a gear grinding single/co-op rpg..how does it have similarities with guild wars 2? Do you even read what you type? Yes it is a fact that guild wars 2 is an MMOPRG.

How are they so different?

Aside from the isometric perspective of the first and the limitation of 4 characters working together, I believe they are more similar than you are apt to admit.

GW2 is an evolution of GW1.  GW1 is basically, for all intensive purposes, a more story-driven Diablo-type game (I am only talking the PVE side here).  So by simply expanding the population of areas and changing the persepective, does it suddenly become a different genre altogether?  No.

And Diablo 3 is an online-only game (as far as I played it last).

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10/18/12 10:16:37 AM#60
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by Istavaan
Originally posted by grimal
Originally posted by halflife25

Oh boy Grimal surely made the usual suspects very  angry.

*Hands Grimal a shield*

Not my intention at all.  I am just giving my opinion.  Any are free to disagree with me. 

You're opinion is wrong, guild wars 2 might not be to your taste but like it or not it is still an MMORPG.

And I think you're wrong.  So where does that leave us?

RPGs have traditioneally always been about character progression and advancement.  GW2 has streamlined this feature so much that it is virtually nonexistent.

Let me put it this way: if I remove the cheese from a cheese dish, is it still a cheese dish?  I'd argue not.  That's the point I am trying to make.  GW2 has removed the very cheese from it's dish.  Hence, I don't consider it one any more.

So leveling a character is not progression? getting traits and skill points to improve your character is not progression? getting exotic and legendary armour is not progression? doing dungeons and getting rewards is not progression? exploring and unlocking the maps is not progression? getting pvp gear and ranks is not progression? So then tell me what is progression? you just compared guild wars 2 to diablo 3, are you saying diablo 3 is not an rpg either?

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