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  Rayshe

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10/20/12 11:35:38 AM#221

TSW - RPer's paradise with a great world, a great story. The Devs actually care about their community and have answered Petitions as i click send on them more than once. Freedom in play style (unless your a elitist Prick), Constant Updates, Seasonal events that suit the atmosphere. and Ragnar Tornquist is one of the greatest writers this genre has ever seen. 

 

Rift - Creators of the Dynamic event, Player houseing that is more than just "here is house here is where you can put these items". no Good Vs Evil thing, Beautiful Graphics, Beautiful Character design. Sadly the Armor is a little sexist given that their  Female armor is ment to be a selling feature instead of useful.

 

Face Of Mankind Pre MS1 - Sandbox with a player driven Economy. Nuff Said

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  Ozmodan

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10/24/12 10:42:42 AM#222
Easy, Asheron's Call, a 10 year old MMO, blows away GW2.  Really sad that the genre has sunk so far.
  iamrta

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10/24/12 10:47:50 AM#223
it's personal opinion. Personally, LOTRO is always my fallback mmo. Yep...
  Fiedita

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10/24/12 10:49:55 AM#224
DAoC
  ThomasN7

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10/24/12 10:52:11 AM#225
This is subjective but FFXI remains one of the best mmorpgs ever.  It just exemplifies what a mmorpg should be.
  Simphanatic

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The problem with virtually every MMORPG: too much Pavlov and not enough Maslow.

10/24/12 10:58:49 AM#226

Who gives a tinker's damn.

 

OP's question is only another in an endless chain of "what games do you return to" ... "what's your favorite MMO" questions that beg nothing but subjective responses, none of which are terribly valid. And here's why they're invalid responses ...

 

Most of us form lifelong preferences during our high school years per the type of music we prefer, the objects of our sexual desire, style of cars we like best, preference in books, movies etc etc etc. The same is true in the MMORPGs we prefer. Very likely, all of the games listed herein are the first or second MMORPGs the respondants tried, became comfortable with, and they will remain forever the model by which they judge all future games. So, asking for subjective responses with any expectation of extracting a cogent meaning is an utterly pointless exercise.

  Hefaistos

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10/24/12 11:07:49 AM#227

Here is how i define a good game: The ammount of time i spend playing the game, monthly or over a year. A gamer will spend time in game if the game is good. Otherwise dude is playing for other reasons. For me a game is better then other because i like/dislike things ive seen in Daoc and FFXI

Dark Age of Camelot - 4 years

Final Fantasy XI - 6 months

Swtor - 5 months

WoW, Aoc, Warhammer - 3 months

Everything else, EQ 1-2, Lineage series, GW1-2, Darkfall, FFXIV, and any mmo that really, really, counts 1month - max 2 months. After playing DAOC for 3 years on Mordred on FFA server  i moved to merlin for some rvr. Then ive missed FFA games and played FFXI for pve...then never ever found a game that hyped me more then 1 month. 

 

God, i hope in this life i find a game that will beat the hell out of Daoc. Maybe Daoc2 ? Other game ?

 

I really liked talking about DaoC else i would not made my 3rd post since 2004 :)

 

ps: i will give another chance to DarkFall, FFXIV and all mmos when they will be live. Im so hungry for another mmo. 

 

  Naevius

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10/24/12 11:16:09 AM#228
Originally posted by Simphanatic   OP's question is only another in an endless chain of "what games do you return to" ... "what's your favorite MMO" questions that beg nothing but subjective responses, none of which are terribly valid. And here's why they're invalid responses ...

Agreed, it would be more interesting to look at some objective measures that make sense to players, like concurent users, or average time spent per player.

(Note that "amount of money made" is an objective measure, but not very relevant to players.))

  Baramos79

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10/24/12 11:19:45 AM#229
Originally posted by Tayah
For me, sadly, there hasn't been a really good mmo since Ultima Online, Dark Age of Camelot, and the original Asheron's Call.

This one speaks the truth!

  Dulu

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10/24/12 11:37:58 AM#230

You're really reaching to make GW2 seem good.

 

Yeah, it's better than the majority of crap released over the past 7 years. Personally, I found Rift and GW1 more enjoyable.

 

Still doesn't compare to EQ, DAoC, or WoW.

 

Happy?

  Acvivm

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10/24/12 11:55:12 AM#231
GW2 is a decent game but I don't think it is the best, I personally had way more fun leveling in SWTOR, LOTR and DCUO. For me the game broke down when the illusion of dynamic events wore away and it just never felt immersive for me. Instead of feeling like I was in a breathing world I felt more like I was in a game with how scripted everything was more than I ever did with any other mmo. I can see how people would like that but its just not for me, the game had the opposite effect on me in that all this running around for dynamic events felt like more of a grind then regular questing did.

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  DavisFlight

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10/24/12 12:05:38 PM#232
Originally posted by Acvivm
GW2 is a decent game but I don't think it is the best, I personally had way more fun leveling in SWTOR, LOTR and DCUO. For me the game broke down when the illusion of dynamic events wore away and it just never felt immersive for me.

And killing the same reskinned 10 wolves 1000 times for stationary NPCs with glowing objects over their heads was... MORE immersive?

  JudgeUK

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10/24/12 12:06:16 PM#233

For me - Aion, played from original launch and still dabble with the ftp option.

This was one of those famous "if only" games.

If only they had  -> three things:

 - made pve servers - (still with dredgion and fort battles for those who wanted to do them). Still retained pvp servers of course.

 - got rid of the rng - (manastone socketing was a famous ragequit feature).

- lessed the original grind a little - (but not by much).

then it would have been far more successful than it was. Maybe it would still be ptp.

As I said....if only.

 

  Acvivm

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10/24/12 12:43:10 PM#234
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Acvivm
GW2 is a decent game but I don't think it is the best, I personally had way more fun leveling in SWTOR, LOTR and DCUO. For me the game broke down when the illusion of dynamic events wore away and it just never felt immersive for me.

And killing the same reskinned 10 wolves 1000 times for stationary NPCs with glowing objects over their heads was... MORE immersive?

It is for me, from what I remember with GW2 you kill the same amount of reskinned enemies as in other mmos except instead of doing it for NPCs or to further a story your doing it because its there. I personally like questing hubs and feel they are more immersive because there is usually a story that is involved with the town or area that is conveyed through the quests given. I never felt like I was doing anything story related in GW except following the pack and killing enemies of which I have no idea of who they even are or why I am killing them.

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  Alber_gamer

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10/24/12 2:51:06 PM#235

I think "best" is the game that has you addicted for a larger number of hours, and when you log off you're looking forward to next time you'll have time to play. Under that criteria, and considering that I've played GW2 for 86 hours, it isn't even in my top 10 off the top of my head. Without counting WoW's several expansions, I've played 100+ hours:

 

SW:TOR

Aion

Vanguard

APB

Rift

Atlantica Online

Allods

Warhammer Online

Dungeons and Dragons Online

 

 

And that's not even counting co-operative games like League of Legends, Diablo III, Torchlight 2, Borderlands 1 and 2... or single plyer games like Mass Effect trilogy, Dragon Age 1 and 2, Oblivion, Morrowind, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Dungeons of Dredmor... the list goes on.

 

So in short no, Guild Wars 2 isn't even my top 10 best mmo of the post-WoW era. It's still worth the money though, at least for people who have a job and can afford to take some extra enjoyment out of their money. 

My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  aesperus

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10/24/12 2:57:34 PM#236
Originally posted by Acvivm
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Acvivm
GW2 is a decent game but I don't think it is the best, I personally had way more fun leveling in SWTOR, LOTR and DCUO. For me the game broke down when the illusion of dynamic events wore away and it just never felt immersive for me.

And killing the same reskinned 10 wolves 1000 times for stationary NPCs with glowing objects over their heads was... MORE immersive?

It is for me, from what I remember with GW2 you kill the same amount of reskinned enemies as in other mmos except instead of doing it for NPCs or to further a story your doing it because its there. I personally like questing hubs and feel they are more immersive because there is usually a story that is involved with the town or area that is conveyed through the quests given. I never felt like I was doing anything story related in GW except following the pack and killing enemies of which I have no idea of who they even are or why I am killing them.

Actually, no.

GW2 has barely any 'reskinned' enemies from what I've seen. It has a lot of different types of enemies, and you may re-encounter them, but that's not the same as a reskin. Furthermore, the events that you do in GW2 DO have their own story to them. Each and every one of them. Just because people don't bother to follow the story doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Furthermore, if you went back and read the quest text of some of those games you mentioned, a lot of it is pretty awful. Most people don't bring that up, though, because most people don't even bother to read the text. They just grind quest - quest from NPCs with a ! over there head.

I enjoyed all 3 of the games you mention, but your logic is a bit flawed on this one.

  tixylix

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10/24/12 2:58:19 PM#237

GW isn't an MMO.

 

 

  botrytis

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10/24/12 3:01:44 PM#238
Originally posted by tixylix

GW isn't an MMO.

 

 

GW1 is not it is a CORPG - GW2 IS AN MMO.

 

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  Foomerang

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10/24/12 3:05:26 PM#239

Anet is charging 60 bucks to play a game that launched with an rng cash shop. The question should have been is there an mmorpg since 2005 that is worse than GW2.

If you thought the events were dynamic, you'll think the stories are living.

  Kingmob23

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10/24/12 3:11:04 PM#240

I voted no. I enjoyed and put more time in, prior to quitting, the following post 2005 releases.

Warhammer Online

Age of Conan

DC Online

Rift

SWTOR

The Secret World

DDO

Aion

Lord of the Rings

plus all post 2005 WoW expansions.

My first MMO's were EQ and Asheron's Call which I  also loved more.

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