No. Since 2005 there has not been a better MMORPG than Guild Wars 2. It is not only the best game since 2005, but is probably the best MMO that I have played. 

I have played them all. Just an opinion.

GW2, at its root, is a third-person action game.  It has some RPG-lite elements tacked on to it.  Much in the same way how CoD or other shooters have RPG elements tagged onto them in the forms of weapon and perk unlocks.

To me, it feels like ANET designed this from the "action" point up.  Whereas a game like EQ or Vanguard designed the game from the RPG element up.

Hence, at its core it is more akin to an arcade game than an in-depth roleplaying experience.  This is why the game feels actiony but not character-driven.

It's a good game, don't get me wrong.  But I would not consider it an MMORPG.  It's a massive online action game that tries to pretend it is an MMORPG. 

IMO GW2 is not the best game since 2005. Being the best or worst is a matter of individual opinion.

GW2 is a good game but, I put GW2 in the same category as Diablo3. It was fun for a week and half but got repetive and shallow. I still play it once in a while for 30 min or so.

IMO SWTOR, EVE, and World of Tanks are better games because they hold my attention for long periods of time.

***raises plunger in salute to season 3 of the walking dead!***

Originally posted by dzoni87

Originally posted by gobla

Originally posted by dzoni87
And there it goes... another topic turned out info "Fanboy-Hater" war. Why cant we all get along? :(

Where's the fun in that?

Just think of the games you play and love.

How many of them had conflict in them? In how many of them did everyone get along?

Conflict is fun, as long as it doesn't turn violent, abusive or insulting.

Where is fun? Simple: in game that you play. Forum PvP is not fun :( If you are searching for PvP at forums, then, i dont know what to say lol...

Eh, opinions differ.

I personally prefer the XKCD approach.

Haha, a vast majority say yes.

I say yes too, sad to see NC shut down City.

Edit: more coffee will = better typing

Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

No. Since 2005 there has not been a better MMORPG than Guild Wars 2. It is not only the best game since 2005, but is probably the best MMO that I have played. 

I have played them all. Just an opinion.

I doubt you have played them all but you are entitled to your opinion.

Originally posted by gobla

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by The_Korrigan

Originally posted by eAzydaman

Originally posted by SuperDonk

Rift and SWTOR are better.

 

Edit: Add WAR to that list.

WAR and SWTOR were massive failures trying to copycat one of the best MMO's ever created.

Fixed this for you.

You not liking a MMORPG doesn't make it bad. WoW is the most successful MMO of all times for now, and there are many good reasons why so many players enjoy(ed) that game. And commercially, it's definitely still the best.

A game which maintained millions of subscribers for 8 years is definitely one of the best games ever, and that would be true even if I don't like the game.

Sadly, the above mentionned clones completely failed where WoW succeeded.

That's nonsense. It is like saying that McDonalds is good because so many people eat there. Commercial success does not come only from the "goodness" of a game, it comes from marketing, hype, catering to a broad number of individuals and so on and so forth.

Beside the therm good is quite subjective. I think WoW is not a very good MMORPG as it is too linear, instanced, cross-server and what not which takes away from the persistant world feeling but a lot of other seem to disagree with me.

Except McDonalds is a great restaurant.

It fails utterly and completely as a five-star restaurant. It's abhorrant as a healthy restaurant. It's abismall as a romantic restaurant.

But it is, nonetheless, a great restaurant. A great fast food restaurant to be precise. Because it does exactly what a fast food restaurant is supposed to do and it does so exceedingly well. I can't think of any other place that's better when it comes to vast quantities of cheap food in the shortest amount of time possible.

Because that's the reason people visit fast food restaurants. They don't go there for the atmosphere. They don't go there for the great quality. They don't go there the healthy food. They go there to get a lot of food for a low price without much of a wait.

Likewise for WoW. It's a dreadfull sandbox. It's a total dissapointment on many, many styles of MMO. But it's amazing at the reason people play it, otherwise so many would not be playing it. It's a great MMO. It's only your own specialised definition of MMO that falls short.

There is a difference between being a good fast food restaurant, being a good restaurant and being a good business. Speed has always been a factor in regular restaurants and you can rest assured that a restaurant that is too slow in delivering a meal, will not do well in the Michelin Guide. The only thing that being a "fast food restaurant" requires is that the restaurant serves the food quickly enough after it has been ordered, but being just fast doesn't automatically make the restaurant "good" in comparison to other restaurants.

A restaurant can be any of the three in theory; one I perceive to meet my prejudices about McDonalds is that it is a bad restaurant, a decent fast food restaurant and a great business. 

Originally posted by ShakyMo
I would prefer if gw2 was sub based. I get slightly irked at some design decisions which I feel are influenced somewhat by the store. E.g. while there isn't a gear grind, there is a gold grind. This is one area where gw2 reminds me of wow, but in a bad way.

Nice post. The first time I've heard "it" put this way. I might not agree with all your post, but you have a keen eye.

Originally posted by DMKano

gen 1 games still own anything released in the last 8 years - UO, eq1,AC, DAoC 

This.

better is completely subjective.

personally i've had more fun playing Mortal Online for a year and 9 months than i've had playing GW2 for the last month.....and yet i would have to agree that on a technical basis GW2 is an incredibly "better" game then MO.

Originally posted by Rimmersman

Originally posted by PaRoXiTiC

No. Since 2005 there has not been a better MMORPG than Guild Wars 2. It is not only the best game since 2005, but is probably the best MMO that I have played. 

I have played them all. Just an opinion.

I doubt you have played them all but you are entitled to your opinion.

I have played them all as in I have played every game worth mentioning and some other no name games.

Originally posted by Jimmy562
In my opinion SWTOR. I enjoy playing GW2 but enjoy SWTOR a little more. 

This for me.

Darkfall

But GW2 is the best Themepark at the moment. Still enjoying it (until DF:UW).

You're going to have to give bonus points to the older MMOs because of the technology limits and innovations of the time. Ex: Final Fantasy XI and Lineage 2 were considered good back in 2004.  Same with Ragnarok, Rf Online, until you got sick of the grinding. But all you had were grinders back then.  Except Guild Wars 1, and honestly I have played that game more in earnest in longer than I have Guild Wars 2. I don't even feel like playing Guild Wars 2 anymore.

Really, GW2 was seriously overhyped. PvP:Unbalanced and they put in point capture maps which the devs seem to love, instead of deathmatch maps which were the most popular form of PvP in GW1. PvE: The story is written for kids and is deep as a thin crust pizza. Arenanet's way of making dungeons difficult is to give every mob a large amount of HP and if it's a boss, give it massive damage. Compare this with Guild Wars 1, you were actually challegened in GW1 missions.

Originally posted by Skranken
Each gamer got his opinions on what is a good game, so threads like these are completely pointless imo...

By this logic we can shut down mmorpg.com

(not saying you are wrong, but it is why we are here)

Originally posted by Nitth

 

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Originally posted by bcbully
Here is the list. Take a look.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_games

 

If yes then which one(s).

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Silly comparisons. Is solitaire better than chess?

 

Pfft no, Chess has way better pvp. 

Everyone knows that GW2 is proly the best mmorpg...dont mean you like it the best...

Everyone knows its all about the social and emotions you felt when u first logged onto a mmorpg and the friends you made and the guilds etc...

For me the mmorpg i had the most enjoy playing was PWI on dreamweaver server...I met tons of players..guild fights were cool...and i actually felt like that sitcom Cheers where everyone know your name..i felt like i belonged..

GW2 is different...ya is fun and the mechanics of the game outshine most mmorpgs but...i feel like a pea in a pod if  ya know what i mean...