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  KingJiggly

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Joined: 8/03/11
Posts: 807

Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

10/15/12 6:07:10 PM#61
Originally posted by Ortwig
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Method01

Quests in TSW is very unique. Gw2 are not even close to that. Gw2 is great yes, but saying that gw2 got it all is a lie. 

I really think TSW did something special with the quests, which i hope other mmo's will look at. 

I haven't played TSW for some time now, but i think i will return in a near future. 

You go on google now. Congrats. I do that daily for school, so I don't care. The quests are not in any way special, I thought more with the legend of Zelda puzzles on my ds. 

The fact that they even exist in an MMO is notable.  Name one other MMORPG that actually asks you, the player, to figure something out in order to complete the mission.  I can name one: Myst Online -- now that's niche.

Agreed. But that doesn't make questing in tsw unique in any way. Having riddles is cool, but the day I see an MMO with real puzzles (Zelda is the perfect example) then I will say they are unique. I can do brain teasers daily just by talking to people. This is not in any way make tsw unique. 

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  KingJiggly

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Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

10/15/12 6:11:40 PM#62
Originally posted by Bronq
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Method01

Quests in TSW is very unique. Gw2 are not even close to that. Gw2 is great yes, but saying that gw2 got it all is a lie. 

I really think TSW did something special with the quests, which i hope other mmo's will look at. 

 

I haven't played TSW for some time now, but i think i will return in a near future. 

You go on google now. Congrats. I do that daily for school, so I don't care. The quests are not in any way special, I thought more with the legend of Zelda puzzles on my ds. 

What do you mean with "[y]ou go on google now"?

I was using to google as a verb, meaning to basically look something up online. You are not limited to just Google as the main search engine of course, you may use yahoo, bing, or whatever to your hearts content. So what I was saying was "Congratulations (sarcastically of course), you now use the Internet in conjunction with the game, you never really solve the puzzle nor does it challenge you in any way, it just forces you to minimize go on the Internet, and get your answer... Which I am doubly sure you will not remember afterwards becuase you didn't learn it, you just copy and pasted it."

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  Ortwig

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Joined: 4/20/12
Posts: 1031

10/15/12 8:45:52 PM#63
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Bronq
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Method01

Quests in TSW is very unique. Gw2 are not even close to that. Gw2 is great yes, but saying that gw2 got it all is a lie. 

I really think TSW did something special with the quests, which i hope other mmo's will look at. 

I haven't played TSW for some time now, but i think i will return in a near future. 

You go on google now. Congrats. I do that daily for school, so I don't care. The quests are not in any way special, I thought more with the legend of Zelda puzzles on my ds. 

What do you mean with "[y]ou go on google now"?

I was using to google as a verb, meaning to basically look something up online. You are not limited to just Google as the main search engine of course, you may use yahoo, bing, or whatever to your hearts content. So what I was saying was "Congratulations (sarcastically of course), you now use the Internet in conjunction with the game, you never really solve the puzzle nor does it challenge you in any way, it just forces you to minimize go on the Internet, and get your answer... Which I am doubly sure you will not remember afterwards becuase you didn't learn it, you just copy and pasted it."

Ummm.....  I don't intend to be mean, but do you understand why a philosophy about Googling content and pasting it into your homework without learning the material is really kind of a bad thing?  I mean, if you really place such a low value on true learning and thinking, do you understand why people might not take your opinion too seriously?  Sure, we could all CHEAT at the game, but some of choose to actually think and figure it out.  There's lots of tips on the forums for looking up information without just getting the answer.  And yes, that's kind of cool. 

  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1259

10/16/12 2:48:34 AM#64

Figuring things out IS cool, but what about the MMO part? I don't think anyone has ever bashed TSW for its quests. The quests are great. However, what about everything else? What do you do after you've completed the 20 or so investigation missions and the main story? Oh, right, you go run on that gear treadmill. I don't wanna!

I've seen the "it's too sophisticated for the dumb masses" argument thrown around a lot on this forum, and to be honest I think it's idiotic. Based on what I've seen, people love the sophisticated parts of TSW. I know I do. What I don't love is the dumb gear grind that comes afterwards. Trying to find a party for a dungeon and not being able to, because everyone else is on the second stage of the hamster wheel is not my idea of fun.

  Bronq

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/12/12
Posts: 5

10/16/12 5:18:12 AM#65
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Bronq
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Method01

Quests in TSW is very unique. Gw2 are not even close to that. Gw2 is great yes, but saying that gw2 got it all is a lie. 

I really think TSW did something special with the quests, which i hope other mmo's will look at. 

 

I haven't played TSW for some time now, but i think i will return in a near future. 

You go on google now. Congrats. I do that daily for school, so I don't care. The quests are not in any way special, I thought more with the legend of Zelda puzzles on my ds. 

What do you mean with "[y]ou go on google now"?

I was using to google as a verb, meaning to basically look something up online. You are not limited to just Google as the main search engine of course, you may use yahoo, bing, or whatever to your hearts content. So what I was saying was "Congratulations (sarcastically of course), you now use the Internet in conjunction with the game, you never really solve the puzzle nor does it challenge you in any way, it just forces you to minimize go on the Internet, and get your answer... Which I am doubly sure you will not remember afterwards becuase you didn't learn it, you just copy and pasted it."

Then every game is intrinsically meaningless since there's always a plethora of cheats readily available for you to use.

  Method01

Novice Member

Joined: 3/21/12
Posts: 131

10/16/12 5:29:23 AM#66
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Bronq
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Method01

Quests in TSW is very unique. Gw2 are not even close to that. Gw2 is great yes, but saying that gw2 got it all is a lie. 

I really think TSW did something special with the quests, which i hope other mmo's will look at. 

 

I haven't played TSW for some time now, but i think i will return in a near future. 

You go on google now. Congrats. I do that daily for school, so I don't care. The quests are not in any way special, I thought more with the legend of Zelda puzzles on my ds. 

What do you mean with "[y]ou go on google now"?

I was using to google as a verb, meaning to basically look something up online. You are not limited to just Google as the main search engine of course, you may use yahoo, bing, or whatever to your hearts content. So what I was saying was "Congratulations (sarcastically of course), you now use the Internet in conjunction with the game, you never really solve the puzzle nor does it challenge you in any way, it just forces you to minimize go on the Internet, and get your answer... Which I am doubly sure you will not remember afterwards becuase you didn't learn it, you just copy and pasted it."

Easy to see that you are still in school tbh.. 

I didn't Google the quests in TSW, because i liked to solve the quests by myself. Questing in TSW is unique for an mmo. Period! Nuf said!

No more  comments from you plz.

 

  User Deleted
10/16/12 5:29:38 AM#67
Originally posted by Bronq
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Bronq
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Method01

Quests in TSW is very unique. Gw2 are not even close to that. Gw2 is great yes, but saying that gw2 got it all is a lie. 

I really think TSW did something special with the quests, which i hope other mmo's will look at. 

 

I haven't played TSW for some time now, but i think i will return in a near future. 

You go on google now. Congrats. I do that daily for school, so I don't care. The quests are not in any way special, I thought more with the legend of Zelda puzzles on my ds. 

What do you mean with "[y]ou go on google now"?

I was using to google as a verb, meaning to basically look something up online. You are not limited to just Google as the main search engine of course, you may use yahoo, bing, or whatever to your hearts content. So what I was saying was "Congratulations (sarcastically of course), you now use the Internet in conjunction with the game, you never really solve the puzzle nor does it challenge you in any way, it just forces you to minimize go on the Internet, and get your answer... Which I am doubly sure you will not remember afterwards becuase you didn't learn it, you just copy and pasted it."

Then every game is intrinsically meaningless since there's always a plethora of cheats readily available for you to use.

true true and true. i was the guy carefully detailing drops eq era for kunark and velious. i was paid back with sold friends,guildmates accounts so my efforts to be top were jank. i thought i was being cool.

i'll still detail how to win when asked as i have recently in many games, but to what end? it becomes a matter of spoils online so people don't have to try.

nothing to argue here. some are those who blaze the path, some are those who capitalize. nothing really new.

will we see an mmo that intentionally changes content to foil spoilers? i'd be on that like a fat kid on cake. i love a challenge.

  ste2000

Apprentice Member

Joined: 2/28/04
Posts: 4715

10/16/12 5:30:38 AM#68
I am glad you stick with it, but believe it or not to me TSW gameplay is way too generic. Yes the setting are original, some of the quests are different, but the overall experience is not any different from any other Themepark. Funcom didn't try hard enough, they should have made the game more sandboxy, which together with the nice puzzle-quests and awesome settings, would have made the game interesting indeed. Instead what we have here is a Themepark with Lovecraft settings. A missed chance IMO.
  KingJiggly

Novice Member

Joined: 8/03/11
Posts: 807

Definition for innovation is below. Your welcome.

10/16/12 8:00:33 AM#69
Originally posted by Method01
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Bronq
Originally posted by KingJiggly
Originally posted by Method01

Quests in TSW is very unique. Gw2 are not even close to that. Gw2 is great yes, but saying that gw2 got it all is a lie. 

I really think TSW did something special with the quests, which i hope other mmo's will look at. 

 

I haven't played TSW for some time now, but i think i will return in a near future. 

You go on google now. Congrats. I do that daily for school, so I don't care. The quests are not in any way special, I thought more with the legend of Zelda puzzles on my ds. 

What do you mean with "[y]ou go on google now"?

I was using to google as a verb, meaning to basically look something up online. You are not limited to just Google as the main search engine of course, you may use yahoo, bing, or whatever to your hearts content. So what I was saying was "Congratulations (sarcastically of course), you now use the Internet in conjunction with the game, you never really solve the puzzle nor does it challenge you in any way, it just forces you to minimize go on the Internet, and get your answer... Which I am doubly sure you will not remember afterwards becuase you didn't learn it, you just copy and pasted it."

Easy to see that you are still in school tbh.. 

I didn't Google the quests in TSW, because i liked to solve the quests by myself. Questing in TSW is unique for an mmo. Period! Nuf said!

No more  comments from you plz.

 

My point about me using it in school is becuase I am taking college lvl courses in high school. I have to use it, so me doing again for a game is not fun for me. 

And my point wasn't that it is meaningless, it just doesn't make the game better than what it really is. They are not puzzles, they are merely simple brain challenges that you either get or don't, a lot you can't figure out in game and forces you to google it. Those aren't puzzles. I like tsw, it is a decent enough game, but going in and saying tsw quests make this game amazing is like saying gw2 dynamic events makes it amazing or special. They don't.

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