Originally posted by Amjoco

Originally posted by roo67

Originally posted by Amjoco

Not too hard to play both. I have a level 80 guardian and a 73 Pandaren Monk. /shrug

Life doesn't set you in stone, you are aloud to do more than one thing. The busty blonde you are talking about sounds awesome, but there are other hair choices out there!

Exactly . Guild Wars 2 is a great second mmo . The fact someone comes on here starts a thread up knocking the endgame makes me question thier motives . Is it a Blizzard fan looking simply to troll GW2 ?

The OP doesn't seem to understand you are allowed to play more than one MMO . If the fed up with GW2 give it up play WoW for a few months untill some new content comes out then if you feel like it play the new content . Your not paying a subscription so you don't have to worry about gettting value for money .

The chances are the OP has had as much fun out of it as he would get from a single player game for a similar price but because GW2 isn't released with as much content as WoW has now ( it actually has more endgame content that most mmos on release ) he comes on here and has to make a big deal about how hes going back to WoW .

This shows his motive more than anything . Why didn't he simply quietly go back to Warcraft ? The reason he didn't is because hes trolling .

Chances are he never gave up WoW and if he did play Guild Wars 2 he rushed the content or he never played it at all and is simply repeating what others have said about it .

I agree with everything you said. 

I have found that if you put to much into one thing, not just gaming, you become burned out on it rather quickly. 

I chose GW2, one subscription based game (currently WoW), and one f2p game (Vanguard), to help break it up! I play them on a rotation.  Once I get bored of WoW I will move on to either Rift again or TSW.  When SWToR goes f2p, I may drop vanguard for a bit and do that.

Its all about freedom of choice, and  those bashing GW2  because they are all bored of it is their own fault! ;)

That may or may not be true, but I wouldn't say I quit DAoC or SWG rather quickly, unlike every themepark game I've ever played. I'm not saying I don't enjoy themepark games, I'm just saying I haven't stuck with one past 3 months. So IMHO, a good MMORPG should entertain a person for several years like the classic MMO's did.

Originally posted by lathaan

Originally posted by Broomy

 _{Aggro everywhere, no synergy in the group, players dying repeatedly and having to "run back".  That was the final nail.}

this says all about how great the game is. you have to L2P! actually. i mean it. only really bad groups (as in 'inexperienced') face your problems. Others hit the content in the face without loosing health. why? because its skill based. No synergy - i loved my ass off ...

 

people arent used to having to learn and adopt anymore. go back to WoW then :D

So you're saying you know how to play, huh? That you have skill yada yada...

Well, then I challenge you to play a story mode or exploration mode dungeon at the level its meant to be played (no outleveling it and then scaling down) AND NOT GROUP WIPE EVEN ONCE OR DIE. Of course, provide a link to your video to prove it.

Thought so!

Give people more credit than that. Many players are very smart, easily picked up on how to play their characters and how to play them in group settings, and can spot the telegraphed shots the mobs do, BUT STILL DIE/DOWNED multiple times a dungeon, if not a complete group wipe.

Originally posted by Apraxis

Originally posted by 7star

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And I know you are waiting for DFUW just like I am. I think we will both be into that game full-time once it comes out, so let's see what's happens. Maybe I will see you in Agon.

Wow. A WoW player and Raider in Darkfall. Just out of curiosity, did you ever played the first one? It could be a tough awakening. Darkfall is a whole different beast.

And i would be interested how your experience with it(DFUW or the first one) was.. just out of curiosity.

Yep. I'm sure I'm not alone. 

WoW TBC was my first mmorpg. I played for 2 years solid, then on and off for a long time. I did raid in a nice guild for a while. I found it not to my taste because it was too much like work having to show up on time, etc. There was a lot of choreography involved. I did it enough to experience what it was like, but it is not my thing. WoW was my "gateway" mmorpg back in 2007.

I was telling a dude at work how much I loved playing Oblivion and Morrowind. He had never played them -- or even heard of them. He asked if I had ever played WoW, and that was how I heard about it.

I played DF for about 2 years, as well. I had 3 accounts for me and one for my wife. I made some friends. I never became a 1337 pvper. My pvp skills were about average or a little below. I won some fights when I got jumped. And I jumped people unaware if they were farming.  I met some people and did small scale pvp mostly. I got to know people who played at the sames times I did and in the same areas. We talked and shared info about what was going on. I liked that a lot.  I did a lot of pve and enjoyed it. I quit because of many reasons most people who have played DF know about. I loved the game because it felt most like what an Elder Scrolls mmorpg would be like -- my opinion, of course.

My first experience with Darkfall was shocking. I got ganked by another ork in the noob spawn area. I was outraged that someone of my own race would try to kill me :D

I couldn't get my head around the fact that you could kill anyone you wanted to for no reason other than that you wanted to. But I was fascinated (by the freedom of choice and the connected responsbility for your actions with other players) at the same time and that led me to keep playing.

Funny thing playing WoW made me want to go back to GW2.

Players like differnt things:  News at 11

Truly Fu****** mind boggling.... LMFAO people and their video games.

Go play WoW we don't care.

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

I'm at a loss for words. While the first few weeks playing this game was fun it has now turned very bland. i have not reached level cap even after trying just about every class, and i simply dont care to. i just can't get myself to log in, and even when i do i feel absolutely no purpouse. it makes me mad because the game is so pretty, it works well, it's free, it's everything you'd want it to be.....just not interesting.

the worst thing of all is how the more i force myself to play GW2 the more i want to go back and play WoW. this part is just killing me. It's as if all the classes of GW2 just remind me how much more fun the symilar WoW classes were. i miss roles. i miss the trinity. i miss having a purpous and being needed in a group. i miss looking forward to harder and harder group content.  

i really dont know how to explain it. GW2 is like that incredibly beautiful, busty, blonde you've always dreamd off, that ends up being so incredibly dull you just want to scream...... and only makes you want to go back to the foul mouth, cigarette smoking, tramp (WoW) that somehow you just cannot get enough of.

this is truly mind-boggling. Why oh why do i feel this way?

To be honest I felt the same way when playing GW2, I love GW2 I just felt like WoW was cool again while playing it. I've yet to commit to the idea of going back though.

When I play GW2, I felt like I wanted to play GW2... oh wait, I already am!

Originally posted by lathaan

Originally posted by Broomy

 _{Aggro everywhere, no synergy in the group, players dying repeatedly and having to "run back".  That was the final nail.}

this says all about how great the game is. you have to L2P! actually. i mean it. only really bad groups (as in 'inexperienced') face your problems. Others hit the content in the face without loosing health. why? because its skill based. No synergy - i loved my ass off ...

 

people arent used to having to learn and adopt anymore. go back to WoW then :D

 Bad game design is "great"?  That's your opinion buddy, not mine.  As far as "ONLY" really bad groups facing the problems I mentioned...LMAO.  Go read the GW2 forums specific to dungeons.  Its the same complaint from many players of all skill levels.  And as far as "content" and hitting it in the face???LMAO Again.  WHAT CONTENT!??

As far as going back to WOW...done.  ;) 

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by lathaan

Originally posted by Broomy

 _{Aggro everywhere, no synergy in the group, players dying repeatedly and having to "run back".  That was the final nail.}

this says all about how great the game is. you have to L2P! actually. i mean it. only really bad groups (as in 'inexperienced') face your problems. Others hit the content in the face without loosing health. why? because its skill based. No synergy - i loved my ass off ...

 

people arent used to having to learn and adopt anymore. go back to WoW then :D

 Bad game design is "great"?  That's your opinion buddy, not mine.  As far as "ONLY" really bad groups facing the problems I mentioned...LMAO.  Go read the GW2 forums specific to dungeons.  Its the same complaint from many players of all skill levels.  And as far as "content" and hitting it in the face???LMAO Again.  WHAT CONTENT!??

As far as going back to WOW...done.  ;) 

 

OMG, there isn't much of a learning curve to this game, so if you can't get ahead of it and think that WoW has better game design, I'm not sure which is worse; what that says about gamers these days and the lack of intelligence required to play MMOs caused by your beloved WoW or how childish and easy WoW has become over the years.  It was always an easy mode MMO compared to EQ but man it must have really gotten easy I mean with add ons telling what to do and when, I'm surprised you have to do anything more than log in anymore and press win.  /sarcasm off

I do agree with your content comment though.  I wish there were more than there is, but that will come in time.

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by lathaan

Originally posted by Broomy

 _{Aggro everywhere, no synergy in the group, players dying repeatedly and having to "run back".  That was the final nail.}

this says all about how great the game is. you have to L2P! actually. i mean it. only really bad groups (as in 'inexperienced') face your problems. Others hit the content in the face without loosing health. why? because its skill based. No synergy - i loved my ass off ...

 

people arent used to having to learn and adopt anymore. go back to WoW then :D

 Bad game design is "great"?  That's your opinion buddy, not mine.  As far as "ONLY" really bad groups facing the problems I mentioned...LMAO.  Go read the GW2 forums specific to dungeons.  Its the same complaint from many players of all skill levels.  And as far as "content" and hitting it in the face???LMAO Again.  WHAT CONTENT!??

As far as going back to WOW...done.  ;) 

I really feel bad for you if you think 'having challenging gameplay' = 'bad game design'. I really do.

Do a lot of players complain about the dungeon difficulty? Absolutely. However, many of these complaints reflect more about the players than the game. Groups are clearing explorables without deaths. Some dungeons are harder than others. But no, not everyone is having these 'massive death fests' you and others are complaining about. It is most definitely tied to poor gameplay. I have to ask, have you ever tried to go toe to toe with a champion mob? Have you ever actually tried to think about why you died, and how you could play differently to prevent that from happening the next time? Have you ever actually tried using your brain to analyze the encounters in this game and come up w/ a solution?

So much of this game can be handled by basic problem solving skills. Is a boss just hammering you with projectiles until you die? Well, you can either cry about it, or you can think 'hmm.. what skills do I have that can deal w/ this? Maybe you can equip some abilities that block attacks. Maybe you can reflect the projectiles back. Maybe he can be blinded or stunned. Maybe you just need some more health. For the earlier dungeons you don't even need good dodging skills to get through them.

As far as 'content' is concerned. I'm really curious as to what you consider to be 'content'. What, outside of weekly raids & pokemon battles, do you think WoW has (content wise) that GW2 doesn't? WoW isn't a bad game, but I find it baffling as to the massive double standards people put between that game & others. WoW has fairly similar content to most games. Some games even have more (and GW2 is definitely up there if you are just looking at the shear quantity of things in the game). If you like WoW's content more, then that's fine, but it's hard to argue that GW2 doesn't have any content, when it's released w/ more content than pretty much any other MMO in the passed 10 years.

However, enjoy being unchallenged. Glad you find a game that suits you.

Originally posted by NaughtyP
I dunno. How can you explain a game introducing strange things like Kung Fu Panda and Pokemon and succeeding? I'm gonna go with brainwashing and special koolaid.

Now that is funny.

Any themepark MMO will make you want to go back to WoW, simply because WoW was everyone's first true love and its still kicking. Its not wrong to want to go back to that game.

For me its LoTRO. The first MMO I played, and fell in love with. I tried WoW later, and felt like going back to LoTRO all the time while playing it. Now I see the same feelings with tons of other gamers. Basically from what I've noticed, if WoW was your first MMO, you will most likely never enjoy another themepark mmo like you did WoW.

Originally posted by Params7

Any themepark MMO will make you want to go back to WoW, simply because WoW was everyone's first true love and its still kicking. Its not wrong to want to go back to that game.

For me its LoTRO. The first MMO I played, and fell in love with. I tried WoW later, and felt like going back to LoTRO all the time while playing it. Now I see the same feelings with tons of other gamers. Basically from what I've noticed, if WoW was your first MMO, you will most likely never enjoy another themepark mmo like you did WoW.

Maybe that's why I haven't bought the coolaid.

For me WoW wasn't my first MMO, not hardly. I got into MMOs when I was pretty young, started w/ early UO, EQ2, LotRO, FFXI, etc. I appreciated what WoW did, but I was never completely sold on it either. It's a well polished game, and I see the appeal to that, but for me a lot of the substance in that game just wasn't there. (which I know may be ironic for some people, as they feel the same about GW2). Blizzard has always been good at dressing up games & adding that special icing to really sell them, but for me that's never been enough to convince me to buy things.

I also really enjoyed LotRO. It didn't have the same amount of polish as WoW, but I thought it had much more interesting game mechanics, and the lore was definitely a plus. I especially liked the classes in LotRO, they were some of the more interesting class I'd experienced in an MMO at that point.

Originally posted by Jakdstripper

I'm at a loss for words. While the first few weeks playing this game was fun it has now turned very bland. i have not reached level cap even after trying just about every class, and i simply dont care to. i just can't get myself to log in, and even when i do i feel absolutely no purpouse. it makes me mad because the game is so pretty, it works well, it's free, it's everything you'd want it to be.....just not interesting.

the worst thing of all is how the more i force myself to play GW2 the more i want to go back and play WoW. this part is just killing me. It's as if all the classes of GW2 just remind me how much more fun the symilar WoW classes were. i miss roles. i miss the trinity. i miss having a purpous and being needed in a group. i miss looking forward to harder and harder group content.  

i really dont know how to explain it. GW2 is like that incredibly beautiful, busty, blonde you've always dreamd off, that ends up being so incredibly dull you just want to scream...... and only makes you want to go back to the foul mouth, cigarette smoking, tramp (WoW) that somehow you just cannot get enough of.

this is truly mind-boggling. Why oh why do i feel this way?

Just a guess - you were meant to be a WoW player?

Because they're both Theme park MMOs but WoW just does it better.

That being said. Im sick of both games, but it took a month for me to be sick of GW2 and several years to be sick of WoW.

Waiting for TWZ or DF 2

I think the main issue with GW2 is the lack of content, as well as nothing really to look forward to at end game. Once you get there, it's like ok, so now I just WvWvW all day every day.

There is no "hunt" in GW2, there is no desire. At least that's how it feels to me. I did not come from WoW, I came from EQ2. I miss the raiding and the open world pvp hunting, 1v1s that meant something. /shrug

@ OP,

Seriously you should stop playing any other game.

Just focus on playing WOW and stay in Blizz forums till you are ready to move on.

Just go back to Ogri or SW and don't venture anywhere.

Go, go, go, DO IT, NOW!!!