Originally posted by Chaserz

I've played MMOs since EQ1.  Out of all the 2012 new releases GW2 has looked the most promising.  And without questions there IS a lot to like and enjoy.  But the show stoppers that killed it for me:

1.  Character progression:  Too much of the same.  Over and over and over again.  Whereas in other MMOS I am preoccupied with where my toon will be in terms of new gear and new zones this MMO is the ever repeating story.  It feels the same at level 32 as it does at level 9.

2.  Grouping is uneventfully bland.   I understand the design intent is to simplify the typical complexities of "finding groups" this game has made it to where its so routine and simple it has lost the pleasures of grouping.

3.  Guilds?   Why?  For another chat window?  Boring.

 

I quit after 3 weeks.  Just not for me unfortunately.   

 

I doubt you ever played the game.

Originally posted by Chaserz

I've played MMOs since EQ1.  Out of all the 2012 new releases GW2 has looked the most promising.  And without questions there IS a lot to like and enjoy.  But the show stoppers that killed it for me:

1.  Character progression:  Too much of the same.  Over and over and over again.  Whereas in other MMOS I am preoccupied with where my toon will be in terms of new gear and new zones this MMO is the ever repeating story.  It feels the same at level 32 as it does at level 9.

2.  Grouping is uneventfully bland.   I understand the design intent is to simplify the typical complexities of "finding groups" this game has made it to where its so routine and simple it has lost the pleasures of grouping.

3.  Guilds?   Why?  For another chat window?  Boring.

 

I quit after 3 weeks.  Just not for me unfortunately.   

 

I hate to say it, but alas I have to agree. I SO wished I would stay in GW2, really. But it just doesn't keep me. GW2 has some really great features. But yes, routine and to much of the same describes my feeling too. *shrug* Can't even say why exactly, but something just doesn't work for me here. :/

I thought the automatic grouping was god awful as well and I hated WvW.

But then I brought my TERA guild over and we all hit 80 and started doing organized 5 man WvW, now that's pretty fun.

There's also 8 endgame normal mode dungeons(story) and 25 endgame hardmode dungeons(explorable).

33 endgame dungeons(in a sense) and there's no dungeon finder, so you actually have to make your own groups, which is definitely a good thing.

At first I didn't really dig GW2 too much, but I really do like it now that i'm 80.

When played like a single player game, the game is fun at first then gets stale real soon.

1. DEs? You can solo them and in some where you'd need help, you'd find some stumbling along to help you without even interacting with you.

2. sPVP? Join a channel and play. No need to talk to any one.

3. WvWvW? Follow the zerg, follow those crossed-swords on the map. Done, no talking.

4. Dungeons? Oh here you'd need to do some talking. However, you can get the same gear stats you'd get from tokens from simply farming and crafting/buying them off the trading post.

Pretty much everything  is accessible to the solo player. In fact, it is so accessible that it has revealed the dilemma of the typical MMO player - the artificial need to group and the purpose of a guild. The dillema of not being forced to group is so lost on the undeniably anti-social MMO'er that he forgets the concept behind those groups.

If you treat other people as means to an end (i.e. join guild to raid to get loot; join pug to run dungeon to get loot; autogroup to run DE to get xp/karma), it becomes a shallow endeavour. Other games manage to hide this by making content hard enough that people are forced to group and "socialize".

This game doesn't force you to group, but hell it offers something more than that need. Laugh at your friends falling off a jumping puzzle. Roam around with your friends in WvWvW and pick off those stragglers. Better yet, prepare an ambush on the EB WvWvW jumping puzzle and laugh as your enemies fall to their demise. There are little things behind the game that makes it fun - but to experience that kind of fun, you'd best be treating that guild chat as "just another chat box". Play with your friends, make friends and just enjoy it as an MMO.

TLDR: Game is a fun single player at first then gets boring quick. Game is epic when played as an MMO.

Originally posted by Chaserz

I've played MMOs since EQ1.  Out of all the 2012 new releases GW2 has looked the most promising.  And without questions there IS a lot to like and enjoy.  But the show stoppers that killed it for me:

1.  Character progression:  Too much of the same.  Over and over and over again.  Whereas in other MMOS I am preoccupied with where my toon will be in terms of new gear and new zones this MMO is the ever repeating story.  It feels the same at level 32 as it does at level 9.

2.  Grouping is uneventfully bland.   I understand the design intent is to simplify the typical complexities of "finding groups" this game has made it to where its so routine and simple it has lost the pleasures of grouping.

3.  Guilds?   Why?  For another chat window?  Boring.

 

I quit after 3 weeks.  Just not for me unfortunately.   

 

Wow you lasted longer in GW2 than I did in most other supposedly "AAA" mmo's.  However, I'm stil playing GW2 since headstart.

/shrug