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10/12/12 12:40:04 PM#121
Originally posted by boxsnd LOL I agree ;). Ever heard of something called a "representative sample?" Here's a hint, Xfire is not one ;). Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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10/12/12 12:41:54 PM#122
Originally posted by boxsnd Lets make a bet. If you're wrong about these numbers in 2-3 weeks you have to come back and post in the biggest font "I don't know anything about statistics!" and smash your cloudy crystal ball on the ground, ok?  |
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10/12/12 12:46:50 PM#123
Originally posted by boxsnd And in 1 post you proved that you are one of them. |
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10/12/12 12:47:10 PM#124
Well logged in this morning just to check. (it's not prime time atm) GW2 currently has: 11 full servers 12 heavy pop servers 1 medium pop server (this is for NA of course) I see threads complaining about the populations, but I'm honestly puzzled (unless you're playing on that 1 medium pop server, or maybe on a EU, in which case I don't know their numbers). Furthermore, ingame we've been having daily epic WvW battles in all 4 zones, my guild has actually been growing and we've been doing more & more events as a guild. I still see PUGs for every dungeon (though Arah is admittedly harder to find groups for at times). Where is this mass exodus people seem to be implying? Cause from every angle I can look @ GW2 from, it still looks like a healthy, popular, thriving game. As for twitch, I still see people streaming it, and many of the staple streamers are still there. (but again, I may just be following different people). All I can say is the people who were streaming, vlogging, & writting about GW2 pre-release are all still playing. Even some of the ones that bought MoP. |
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10/12/12 12:49:53 PM#125
Originally posted by boxsnd So if you're correct... GW2 currently has 75% of the population that WoW currently does, and once had over 160% of WoWs population.
Fascinating, I had no idea they sold so many boxes in six weeks. Oderint, dum metuant. |
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10/12/12 12:51:35 PM#126
Originally posted by boxsnd BUT - how many GW2 players use Xfire. What percentage is that population of TOTAL GW2 players? You don't know? Well those numbers don't mean anything then. You can't assume that by the numbers - all you can assume is the number of Xfire players are not playing GW2 anymore.
Learn population statistics since that is what you are trying to use by quoting Xfire numbers.  "You can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time." Abraham Lincoln |
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10/12/12 12:54:20 PM#127
Originally posted by botrytis I think it's funny how many responses box's absolutely ridonkulous post has garnered... I dunno, I think it might be the combination of first calling everyone an idiot, and then proceeding to say something monumentally stupid that people just can't resist replying to lol :). Good tips for trolls in the future... Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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10/12/12 12:54:56 PM#128
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10/12/12 12:55:11 PM#129
Originally posted by botrytis
Even that's not the entire picture. I uninstalled XFire because it added nothing to my GW2 experience yet still play GW2 quite a bit. Oderint, dum metuant. |
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10/12/12 12:58:25 PM#130
Originally posted by Creslin321 No. I get so many responses becuase what I'm saying is actually logical and it goes against everything fanboys believe in. They aren't arguing with me, but with their own logic. DAoC - Excalibur & Camlann |
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10/12/12 1:02:18 PM#131
Originally posted by aesperus Right now as we speak GW2 has 300 viewers on twitch(it was constantly over 10k the first 2 weeks) while WoW is at 12k. DAoC - Excalibur & Camlann |
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10/12/12 1:04:31 PM#132
Originally posted by boxsnd Logical? So you agree that GW2 currently has 75% of the population that WoW currently does, and once had over 160% of WoWs population? Because that's what the numbers are apparently trying to tell us.
"Logically". Oderint, dum metuant. |
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10/12/12 1:08:23 PM#133
Originally posted by boxsnd
What is Twitch, and why are WoW players watching it instead of playing? Oderint, dum metuant. |
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10/12/12 1:09:42 PM#134
Originally posted by Volkon No I don't agree. You are actually the main reason I said people don't know statistics ITT. You can't compare games that way because a different % of the population of GW2 might use xfire compared to WoW players. What you can do is compare loss of players each week (for example GW2 lost 55% of its player base in the last 40 days. how many did SWTOR lose in its first 40 days? how many will MoP lose? etc) DAoC - Excalibur & Camlann |
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10/12/12 1:14:26 PM#135
Originally posted by boxsnd Nah, I'm with Creslin on this one. It's only logical to you mate. |
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10/12/12 1:15:09 PM#136
Originally posted by boxsnd xFire = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias therefore it is not a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_sample, it is also a very small sample size and thus very likely has a massive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_of_error. Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob? |
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10/12/12 1:17:13 PM#137
Originally posted by boxsnd First I find it disturbing you act as if you want to see the game fail. Second all that matters is that the population is still striving like this, and like this;
If you can use twitch as a meter for population I can use facts for mine. Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not. |
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10/12/12 1:18:25 PM#138
Originally posted by boxsnd I hate to break this to you, but people tend to watch certain players, not games. |
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10/12/12 1:19:16 PM#139
Originally posted by boxsnd
Hmm... how can I squeeze that number out of XFire? I see MoP has lost a fill third of its hours played in only two weeks, but can't seem to find historical numbers of players.
Oh, how does someone like me that uninstalled XFire but still plays GW2 fit in the equation? Oderint, dum metuant. |
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10/12/12 1:19:25 PM#140
Originally posted by Creslin321 That would be true if people were using xfire to "vote" for games. They aren't. They are using it for reasons unrelated to the statistics(to enhance their gaming experience and track their gaming time). Therefore it is a mostly random sample which is more or less accurate (and xfire has been proven right every time in the past) DAoC - Excalibur & Camlann |
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